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My Conspiracy Theory.

Fledermaus said:
I am proud of not being a person who sees boojums where there are none.

I am proud of not engaging in ridiculous hyperbole.

I am proud of being able to see through the standard CTer BS.

So, you claimed you didn't lie.

"Most every law passed by our government is designed to make them more wealthy or to keep the wealth they have."

Is this true? Yes or no?

Lie or extreme ignorance. You make the call.
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The only extreme ignorance is your own. Arrogance is Ignorance. Your call.
 
Fledermaus said:
Yet it is working....

Has been.

Will.
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Its failing, but I think you know this. Why are people like Hillary Clinton saying we need to save capitalism. If its not in trouble.
 
kjwins said:
The only extreme ignorance is your own. Arrogance is Ignorance. Your call.
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Arrogance if you can back it up is not ignorance.

"Most every law passed by our government is designed to make them more wealthy or to keep the wealth they have."

True or not true... I'll save you the time. Not true.

So, did you knowingly lie or is it simple ignorance?
 
Fledermaus said:
Arrogance if you can back it up is not ignorance.

"Most every law passed by our government is designed to make them more wealthy or to keep the wealth they have."

True or not true... I'll save you the time. Not true.

So, did you knowingly lie or is it simple ignorance?
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Do you have proof that a group of rich people don't control our government.? Draw or are you claiming victory?

I have already admitted my mistake, like 4 or 5 times. I don't see the problem with that.
 
Fledermaus said:
Capitalism is chuggin along fine.

Why do you believe the words of politicians when they say what you want to hear?
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chuggin along fine for who.

that's not what I want to hear.
 
kjwins said:
Do you have proof that a group of rich people don't control our government.? Draw or are you claiming victory?

I have already admitted my mistake, like 4 or 5 times. I don't see the problem with that.
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It is you claim a group of rich people control our government.

You claim, your burden of proof.

And "mistake"?

You have chosen ignorance.

There is nothing evil or wrong about ignorance. We are all ignorant is some realms.
 
kjwins said:
chuggin along fine for who.

that's not what I want to hear.
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Last time I checked we are out of the recession... You heard different?

Unemployment down.

China is tanking because they are artificially devaluing the Yuan to try to capture more export share.... A very non-capitalist thing to do.

Greece is tanking not because of Capitalism. Other factors are in play there.

So if Capitalism is failing why are the Socialist/Communist countries gravitating towards it.
 
Fledermaus said:
It is you claim a group of rich people control our government.

You claim, your burden of proof.

And "mistake"?

You have chosen ignorance.

There is nothing evil or wrong about ignorance. We are all ignorant is some realms.
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Well are you claiming there is not?

Neither one of us has indisputable proof. So instead of taking a ride on the Fledermaus go round. I chose to save time & call it a draw. But your arrogance will not let you admit your ignorance. As I have admitted mine. So hear we sit waiting & wasting away because of your pride.

End of story, or you can just type the word DRAW & we can continue. I am done fighting about a non issue. But you seem to love it. Why I don't know.
 
Fledermaus said:
Last time I checked we are out of the recession... You heard different?

Unemployment down.

China is tanking because they are artificially devaluing the Yuan to try to capture more export share.... A very non-capitalist thing to do.

Greece is tanking not because of Capitalism. Other factors are in play there.

So if Capitalism is failing why are the Socialist/Communist countries gravitating towards it.
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Economics is Global now. China tanks, we tank also. Its not China that is failing its Capitalism.
 
kjwins said:
Well are you claiming there is not?

Neither one of us has indisputable proof. So instead of taking a ride on the Fledermaus go round. I chose to save time & call it a draw. But your arrogance will not let you admit your ignorance. As I have admitted mine. So hear we sit waiting & wasting away because of your pride.

End of story, or you can just type the word DRAW & we can continue. I am done fighting about a non issue. But you seem to love it. Why I don't know.
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I am sure there is copious influence in the form of hard and soft donations, etc.

There is a HUGE difference between influence and control.

But since you are so desperate to call your inability to support YOUR CLAIM of control a "draw", lets do so in the sake of moving on.
 
Fledermaus said:
I am sure there is copious influence in the form of hard and soft donations, etc.

There is a HUGE difference between influence and control.

But since you are so desperate to call your inability to support YOUR CLAIM of control a "draw", lets do so in the sake of moving on.
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OMG dude your trying to say it by not saying it. LOL Unreal.Nice play on words, but its unacceptable. LOL your fuking kill me.
 
Fledermaus said:
You opinion is noted.

So if Capitalism is failing why are the Socialist/Communist countries gravitating towards it.
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Who says they are?
 
kjwins said:
OMG dude your trying to say it by not saying it. LOL Unreal.Nice play on words, but its unacceptable. LOL your fuking kill me.
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You wanted to call it a draw to save your ego. I understand. We can call it a draw (at your insistence) even though you could not or would not back up your claim.

So, to move on.

Why and to what end will the elites turn 75 to 80 % of the worlds population into (sic)surfs?
 
Fledermaus said:

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Winston Churchill
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Dude I,m not a Socialist/Communist, I'm for the truth & what's fair, & I don't think people rich or poor should be allowed to free ride off the system. Unless that person is unable to support themselves (retarded, sick, to old) which would mostly be poor people. If not all.
 
kjwins said:
Dude I,m not a Socialist/Communist, I'm for the truth & what's fair, & I don't think people rich or poor should be allowed to free ride off the system. Unless that person is unable to support themselves (retarded, sick, to old) which would mostly be poor people. If not all.
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If you are for truth, then why all the hyperbole and strawman tactics?
 
Fledermaus said:
You wanted to call it a draw to save your ego. I understand. We can call it a draw (at your insistence) even though you could not or would not back up your claim.

So, to move on.

Why and to what end will the elites turn 75 to 80 % of the worlds population into (sic)surfs?
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All I need is the word DRAW without the half ass excuse.
 
kjwins said:
Dude I,m not a Socialist/Communist, I'm for the truth & what's fair, & I don't think people rich or poor should be allowed to free ride off the system. Unless that person is unable to support themselves (retarded, sick, to old) which would mostly be poor people. If not all.
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And if you are for "fair" do you support a flat tax?
 
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