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Then why did conservative elites help Hitler into power?
No, they were much closer to the left than the right: expansive government, centralized political authority, national industrial policy, anti-competition, anti-markets, and largely intolerant of differing political views.
I said the left is closer to Nazism than the right because of the common reliance on centralized political authority, as you rightly pointed out, to achieve their respective objectives. Someone who advocates for smaller, more limited government -- like me an any conservative worthy of the name -- is farther away from that.
My political views, on the other hand, are closer to anarchy than are yours.
Probably because like so many on the left, they believed the “solution” to their society’s problems was the centralization of of authority.Then why did conservative elites help Hitler into power?
The role of the conservative elite in the Nazi rise to power – The Holocaust Explained: Designed for schools
www.theholocaustexplained.org
You’re welcome to quibble over labels, but I won’t be joining you. My point stands: on the political spectrum, big government liberals are closer to fascism than are small government conservatives. I realize you don’t want to accept that, but I don’t care. The reasoning is sound no matter how much it bothers you.So are social conservatives not right wing? Seems like social conservatives are fine with centralized government to force social conservatism on people who don't want it.
Pretty sure Matt Walsh wants to use big government to force social conservatism on people and you love that guy.
On the political spectrum small c conservatives are closer to small l liberals than either are to Fascists or CommunistsYou’re welcome to quibble over labels, but I won’t be joining you. My point stands: on the political spectrum, big government liberals are closer to fascism than are small government conservatives. I realize you don’t want to accept that, but I don’t care. The reasoning is sound no matter how much it bothers you.
Then why did conservative elites help Hitler into power?
The role of the conservative elite in the Nazi rise to power – The Holocaust Explained: Designed for schools
www.theholocaustexplained.org
No, it’s much closer to left wing ideology: a quest to centralize and concentrate political authority.On the political spectrum small c conservatives are closer to small l liberals than either are to Fascists or Communists
However Fascism is was and remains a far right ideology
You’re welcome to quibble over labels, but I won’t be joining you. My point stands: on the political spectrum, big government liberals are closer to fascism than are small government conservatives. I realize you don’t want to accept that, but I don’t care. The reasoning is sound no matter how much it bothers you.
Never said social conservatism was “small government.” Suggest you find someone who has if you want to have that arugment.How is social conservatism a small government ideology if it wants the state to impose social conservatism on people who don't want it, that is what Walsh wants.
Is Charlie Kirk supporting "small government" when he said Church should direct the state?
Hitler was a social conservative:
Probably because like so many on the left, they believed the “solution” to their society’s problems was the centralization of of authority.
By early 30s Germany, the choice was either 'imprisonment' from the Nazis, or liquidation from the Communists.
Never said social conservatism was “small government.” Suggest you find someone who has if you want to have that arugment.
No, it’s much closer to left wing ideology: a quest to centralize and concentrate political authority.
I didn't say it was strictly a left wing tendency. I do assert it is a defining left-wing tendency in a way it is not for conservatives.This is not a strictly leftwing tendency. Just look at the rightwingers trying to ban abortion on the federal level (e.g. Pence and Graham).
No, I'm saying they have more in common with liberals than they do small government conservatives.But you are saying all dictators are left wing, right?
It would be consistent with the objectives of the left: creating a strong, centralized government. The difference is only measured in degree.So would a dictatorship based on social conservatism be left wing? How does that work?
No, I'm saying they have more in common with liberals than they do small government conservatives.
It would be consistent with the objectives of the left: creating a strong, centralized government. The difference is only measured in degree.
I didn't say it was strictly a left wing tendency. I do assert it is a defining left-wing tendency in a way it is not for conservatives.
I don't know what you are referring to. How can trying to save lives ever be dumb?how are they better if they come up with the absolute dumbest solution you can think of?
No one, I repeat, no one is trying to "take guns away". Making it more difficult for undesirables to get certain weapons is the aim. You have a link proving otherwise?you're not very smart fighting literally said he wants to take guns away a few weeks ago.
You’re welcome to quibble over labels, but I won’t be joining you. My point stands: on the political spectrum, big government liberals are closer to fascism than are small government conservatives. I realize you don’t want to accept that, but I don’t care. The reasoning is sound no matter how much it bothers you.
I didn't say it was strictly a left wing tendency. I do assert it is a defining left-wing tendency in a way it is not for conservatives.
No, I'm saying they have more in common with liberals than they do small government conservatives.
It would be consistent with the objectives of the left: creating a strong, centralized government. The difference is only measured in degree.
it isn't trying to say a lot it's doing everything but that.I don't know what you are referring to. How can trying to save lives ever be dumb?
they said it themselves you can lie to yourself all you want.No one, I repeat, no one is trying to "take guns away".
No disarming is the goal. What makes you think they'll stop their death by A thousand cuts at cut 623Making it more difficult for undesirables to get certain weapons is the aim. You have a link proving otherwise?
There wouldn't be conservative by modern American standards if they helped a dictator rise in a massive bloated overreaching government.Then why did conservative elites help Hitler into power?
The role of the conservative elite in the Nazi rise to power – The Holocaust Explained: Designed for schools
www.theholocaustexplained.org
Nope you are inventing a definition of right left to fit your desire to pretend fascism is left wingNo, it’s much closer to left wing ideology: a quest to centralize and concentrate political authority.
No, it boils down to a point you’re unable to refute. Liberals and fascists both seek to accomplish their policy objectives with strong, centralized political authority. You haven’t countered this point, and we both know why.Your entire argument just boils down to you just wanting to define terms and ideologies in a way you find convenient and expect others to go along with them.
No, it boils down to a point you’re unable to refute.
I’ve invented nothing. When you can muster a logical, well reasoned argument against my point, let me know.Nope you are inventing a definition of right left to fit your desire to pretend fascism is left wing
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