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Having grown up Christian, with parents who took me to church every time the doors were open, I feel comfortable in saying that Christians actually feel sadness and loss when one of their adherents leaves the fold. They start reflecting on how it could have been a failure on their own part, and they wonder if there is anything they can do to help.
For argument sake all religions are the same, but, the manner in which they choose to worship is quite different and varies from murder to simple prayers. That is where I take exception.
All religions are not the same.
But all fundamentalist nuts..... are the same.
Fruitcakes all, left and right.
I'm here to tell you darlin' it is no walk through the park vocally disagreeing when your questions can't be answered satisfactorily. Before you realize it you succumb or you remain steadfast. Ain't easy to stand up and disagree. In fact, you are very much seen as being disrespectful to your parents and you are disagreeing with damn near everyone you know. Tell your church, family and friends next week that you cannot accept virgin birth, just for starters. Declare it. Think about doing it much, much earlier in life. Like when you haven't even reached puberty.
I understand that fully, as it was the same for me, except that I could not imagine how a God would doom others to hell, for merely not having been exposed to Christianity. I understand well that religions are not all the same. They generally have a very similar set of moral concepts, and the Abrahamic religions share some prophets, but that's about the extent of it. Christians are not perfect by any means, as is no other religious group, but if you look at the history of how it spread with western democracy, in spite of the bloody history of the early Christians, it is clear that it is at least compatible with freedom. I have a religious nature, maybe because I was raised that way, or maybe it's just a part of my psychological make-up, regardless of my upbringing.
Whatever the case,
even with my religious impulse, freedom of speech is of the utmost importance to me, as I believe it is in our nature to express, create, and expand our minds, even if that expansion is not in necessarily positive directions, and when I see attempts to try and intimidate Americans into limiting our freedoms, I take great offense to that, especially when I see our own citizens seemingly support that, based in a fear of offending those who wish to see our freedoms become limited, because they can't handle criticism of their religious figures. I would take the same approach if it were any religious group doing the same thing. I do not back down from attempts at intimidation, no matter the source.
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you sitting on the fence now?:2razz:
No, sitting on the fence makes my nuts hurt.
Y'all can trust me. I'm not like the others.
Lizzie, may I invite you to have my babies? OK, at our age I should rephrase that: "Lizzie, may I invite you to have my grandchildren?" Somehow, I'm not sure that works. WTF, we can practice. :wink2:
Seriously, I hear you. Given the chance I'd prefer to live in a world where religion was not necessary. That, of course, is not possible. If I fully accepted Christian beliefs I'd be a Christian. If you fully accepted Buddhist beliefs you'd be a Buddhist. I do believe the coexistence of religions is possible, but not likely. Plan B? I don't have one.
Cool! but then...
Be clear!Say it clearly, fundamentalists of any religion are scum! Say it!
Peaceful, harmless fundies are pretty ok.
Radical Islam, yes. I would submit they are not really Muslims, but rather Islamists.
huh? what peaceful fundies? what is that??
Like Krishnas. They dance around a little, some instruments maybe, sell cheap nice food... no real harm. There's lots of wacked-out religious people that are not a problem in my book. Do you consider Witness and SDA to be fundie? They're pretty ok.
uhmmm.... I don't like fundamentalists of any kind. Islamic or Christians ....
they are totally nuts .... lunatics.... I don't like them....
uhmmm.... I don't like fundamentalists of any kind. Islamic or Christians ....
they are totally nuts .... lunatics.... I don't like them....
Cool! but then...
Be clear!Say it clearly, fundamentalists of any religion are scum! Say it!
What about peaceful Buddhist monk fundies, are they bad? Peaceful orthodox Jews are scum?
Sorry. I thought I was clear. Fundies of any religion are fundies, not adherents to their espoused religions. They are fundies. Scum? Not all. As I said earlier, terrorists and violent religionists come from fundamentalism much, much, much more often than they come from actual religions.
Fundies of any religion are fundies, not adherents to their espoused religions.
uhmmm.... I don't like fundamentalists of any kind. Islamic or Christians ....
they are totally nuts .... lunatics.... I don't like them....
Oh come on... what about the Amish? No one can hate the Amish. They keep to themselves, don't bang on anyone's doors, don't recruit. They're awesome. All they do is pray and churn butter. Great people.
Oh come on... what about the Amish? No one can hate the Amish. They keep to themselves, don't bang on anyone's doors, don't recruit. They're awesome. All they do is pray and churn butter. Great people.
I've never met an Amish person either. All I know is I'm a fan of super religious people who go and live away from everybody else and have no wish to bother us. Gawd bless 'em.
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