Multiple victims in Michigan church shooting; church on fire, police say

[Ahlevah]

Kirk was nothing special.

Certainly not more important than two state senators.

And I don't think this was retaliation for anything. Just a bog standard attack by a maniac. Normal everyday America.

I can’t say Kirk’s life was more important than anyone else’s, but he certainly had more influence on the national political scene than a couple of state legislators from Minnesota. People can reach their own conclusions with a cartridge inscribed with “Hey, fascist. Catch!” To me it appears political, as in something a woke leftist who thinks “fascists” should die would say.

 

[TamleeB]

W

Well, I might opine that I consider the respect of all lives takes precedence over that of any one individual life.

How many people does a single persons actions make less before that loss exceeds the value of that individual?

All lives matter. If you want to pick and choose which ones are more important, then that is on you.

 

[Kyrion]

Well I understand the rate per race. Which doesn't work in your favor.

Which means I was correct and how the conversation should move forward into why so many straight white men are doing gun violence.

 

[Luce]

States can indict for murder.

The federal government can indict for murder. I gave you the statute.

If this is labeled a hate crime, the federal government can and will indict.

 

[Kyrion]

I can’t say Kirk’s life was more important than anyone else’s, but he certainly had more influence on the national political scene than a couple of state legislators from Minnesota. People can reach their own conclusions with a cartridge inscribed with “Hey, fascist. Catch!” To me it appears political, as in something a woke leftist who thinks “fascists” should die would say.

Elected officials are more important than some right wing media grifter. This is explicit federal and state law.

 

[Kyrion]

The federal government can indict for murder. I gave you the statute.

If this is labeled a hate crime, the federal government can and will indict.

You cited the wrong jurisdiction since none of the circumstances for a federal indictment for murder apply to that one anecdote that was cited.

 

[TamleeB]

Ye

Yet you decry nothing trump does. Does shipping people guilty of civil law violations to foreign torture prisons in hellholes demonstrate a gram of respect for their lives?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Actually, I haven’t always agreed with Trump. But of course, you wouldn’t know that because we are all “the same”.
I believe if you come to OUR Country you come through the borders the legal way. I have several friends whom did so.
I actually celebrated when they became legal American citizens. So don’t BS me.

 

[Luce]

You cited the wrong jurisdiction since none of the circumstances for a federal indictment for murder apply to that one anecdote that was cited.

You're wrong.

You're going to have to come to terms with that. I suspect this is not a new phenomenon to you.

 

[L88]

So yes, you forgot that there is a whole state there that impacts and influences city politics and policies.

See what I mean? You are a chronically unserious person that does not talk to actual serious people.

Actually St Louis City resists any assistance from the state. I live in St Louis. My alderman is a progressive. But hey. Keep making assumptions like you do with pickups with flags.

 

[What if...?]

well I know the poster knows nothing about guns and the honesty in a discussion? not there either IMO .... maybe will get better as time goes on? I dunno , we'll see


White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said: “From what I understand, based on my conversations with the FBI director, all they know right now is this was an individual who hated people of the Mormon faith.”


A Christian doesn't hate Mormon's ..... and a man who literally was a marine and fought for people to have freedoms? He did this? Has to be a major mental breakdown

Then isn’t the right question:

“What is driving straight white men so crazy they go shoot a bunch of people?”

 

[Kyrion]

You're wrong.

You're going to have to come to terms with that. I suspect this is not a new phenomenon to you.

Which means I was correct. Good job!

 

[RF667799]

Which means we are in agreement that conservative Christians banned booze sales on Sundays for no other reason than religious intolerance. Good for you champ to agree with me.

You've given no evidence your aggravation at not being able to buy booze on Sunday is due to conservative Christians exclusively.

What makes you think my name is "Champ"?

You haven't provided a counter example of liberals doing a blue law. If you were sincere and acting in good faith you would be doing this.

I thought I explained how in my state it is absolutely prohibited to cultivate one's own recreational marijuana. No matter what day it's done.

Why would I compromise with the Constitution? Sectarian laws are unconstitutional by definition.

Thou shall not murder?

This was just the funniest and easiest example to find since not even you conservatives can deny that blue laws exist and have been for decades. If I picked another example you'll just attempt to gaslight and pretend it doesn't exist. An actual on the books law is hard to ignore.

Like the laws in my state that require alcohol sales to cease at certain times?

I'm the one in favor of secular intrastate commerce, remember?

Yes. Are those laws due to hatred of the DIY weed culture?

 

[L88]

Which means I was correct and how the conversation should move forward into why so many straight white men are doing gun violence.

So you're not concerned with number of young black people getting killed and the number that end up in prison.

 

[What if...?]

Actually St Louis City resists any assistance from the state. I live in St Louis. My alderman is a progressive. But hey. Keep making assumptions like you do with pickups with flags.

Pickups with flags is just screaming “I am a beta personality!”

Not real alpha type worships anybody or anything like that.

 

[rahl]

The sad part is the dead people (who were just living their life) are now just statistics.

But that's our country. Lots of people get gunned down and simply become statistics.

Very few are actually.

 

[Luce]

Which means I was correct. Good job!

Okay, enough is enough.

 

[Kyrion]

Actually St Louis City resists any assistance from the state. I live in St Louis. My alderman is a progressive. But hey. Keep making assumptions like you do with pickups with flags.

You were caught in a really dumb lie and are now doubling down on it due to your inability to be serious and just admit that you were dumb and move on. Good job!

Meanwhile, in reality, red states love love love to meddle in city and local affairs and against the wishes of those people living in those cities. St. Louis is a bad city to due state republican incompetency and corruption.

 

[Kyrion]

Okay, enough is enough.

It is fun watching conservatives try to keep up with me.

 

[JMR]

he literally killed and burned a Mormon church ..... do you think he did that because he hated Catholics or 7-11 stores ?

I'll repeat the question. What evidence did Karolyin have to state he hated Mormons?

 

[Luce]

It is fun watching conservatives try to keep up with me.

No, I'm just done giving you serious answers, since you are quite obviously not serious.

 

[L88]

Then isn’t the right question:

“What is driving straight white men so crazy they go shoot a bunch of people?”

My opinion is they feel as disassociated as Trans, Black and whatever they are.

 

[Kyrion]

You've given no evidence your aggravation at not being able to buy booze on Sunday is due to conservative Christians exclusively.

Yes, because Sunday holds absolutely no significance to Christians in America. None whatsoever!

What makes you think my name is "Champ"?

Is it Buddy?

I thought I explained how in my state it is absolutely prohibited to cultivate one's own recreational marijuana. No matter what day it's done.


Thou shall not murder?



Like the laws in my state that require alcohol sales to cease at certain times?


Yes. Are those laws due to hatred of the DIY weed culture?

You've already admitted to here that I am the one in favor of secular intrastate commerce. Which, if you recall, includes firearms.

 

[L88]

You were caught in a really dumb lie and are now doubling down on it due to your inability to be serious and just admit that you were dumb and move on. Good job!

Meanwhile, in reality, red states love love love to meddle in city and local affairs and against the wishes of those people living in those cities. St. Louis is a bad city to due state republican incompetency and corruption.

Why is Chicago, Detroit, DC and Baltimore shitty crime ridden cities?

 

[Kyrion]

No, I'm just done giving you serious answers, since you are quite obviously not serious.

How can you be done when you never started?

 

[Kyrion]

Why is Chicago, Detroit, DC and Baltimore shitty crime ridden cities?

Blue cities in blue states fare better and have better socioeconomics than blue cities in red states. A fact you want to ignore because, again, you are not a serious person.