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Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them.
The Prophet (the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said: "Yes." He said: "This is because of the deficiency of her mind."[11]
Here's an article that claims Muhammad (the guy who married a 9 year old girl) is "arguably" the first feminist.
Muhammad Was A Feminist | Huffington Post
The refutation to this article is in Muhammad's own words:
Yeah, he's very feminist alright. :roll:
Here's an article that claims Muhammad (the guy who married a 9 year old girl) is "arguably" the first feminist.
Muhammad Was A Feminist | Huffington Post
The refutation to this article is in Muhammad's own words:
Yeah, he's very feminist alright.
Where the article sounds pretty much like somebody decided on a case and then went out looking for own confirmation bias, not everything in it is historically untrue.From the OP article...
"It is time for Islam to liberate women fully and do so upon the example of Muhammad and the authority of the Quran that holds compassion and mercy as the first and foremost attributes of Allah."
... right. :roll:
Here's an article that claims Muhammad (the guy who married a 9 year old girl) is "arguably" the first feminist.
Muhammad Was A Feminist | Huffington Post
The refutation to this article is in Muhammad's own words:
Yeah, he's very feminist alright. :roll:
Here's an article that claims Muhammad (the guy who married a 9 year old girl) is "arguably" the first feminist.
Muhammad Was A Feminist | Huffington Post
The refutation to this article is in Muhammad's own words:
Yeah, he's very feminist alright. :roll:
Here's an article that claims Muhammad (the guy who married a 9 year old girl) is "arguably" the first feminist.
Muhammad Was A Feminist | Huffington Post
The refutation to this article is in Muhammad's own words:
Yeah, he's very feminist alright. :roll:
Here's an article that claims Muhammad (the guy who married a 9 year old girl) is "arguably" the first feminist.
Muhammad Was A Feminist | Huffington Post
The refutation to this article is in Muhammad's own words:
Yeah, he's very feminist alright. :roll:
Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.
19Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.
20Children, obey your parents in everything, for this is pleasing to the Lord.
21Fathers, do not provoke your children, so they will not become discouraged.
Ephesians 5:21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is head of the wife, just as Christ is the head of the church, His body, of which He is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her 26to sanctify her, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27and to present her to Himself as a glorious church, without stain or wrinkle or any such blemish, but holy and blameless.
28In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29Indeed, no one ever hated his own body, but he nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church. 30For we are members of His body.a
Here's an article that claims Muhammad (the guy who married a 9 year old girl) is "arguably" the first feminist.
Muhammad Was A Feminist | Huffington Post
The refutation to this article is in Muhammad's own words:
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them.
Yeah, he's very feminist alright. :roll:
and here's you, claiming to have Arabic. Where you couldn't even get your head around idiomatic flavors of the language in your foreigner's ghetto in Cairo (if your stay there is to be believed).The above is verse 4:34, but the version you have presented is a bit of a whitewash. There is no "first", "then if they persist", or "finally". Those have been added by the translator (which accounts for the brackets) to make it sound like women are warned before they're beaten. In truth, the Arabic separates the 3 actions only with the word "and", which means all 3, including the beating, are to be administered.
and here's you, claiming to have Arabic. Where you couldn't even get your head around idiomatic flavors of the language in your foreigner's ghetto in Cairo (if your stay there is to be believed).
You figured out the meaning of "Grüss Gott" among Bavarians yet?
Well, why not give us a word by word transliteration to prove your otherwise unsubstantiated claim above?
That's leaving aside for the moment the whole distasteful Noel Coward theory.
and here's you, claiming to have Arabic. Where you couldn't even get your head around idiomatic flavors of the language in your foreigner's ghetto in Cairo (if your stay there is to be believed).
You figured out the meaning of "Grüss Gott" among Bavarians yet?
Well, why not give us a word by word transliteration to prove your otherwise unsubstantiated claim above?
That's leaving aside for the moment the whole distasteful Noel Coward theory.
Aaaah, implications are not everybody's thing, it appears.
Nor logic.
Where the question could be seen as arising where the logic lies in going thru the whole rigmarole of admonishments (I mean why not beat the crap out of her right from the start if that's going to be the final and most important action anyway?), better not bother with those that might get over-challenged by it.
Good to know though that some don't need any explanation of the word of (any) God. Shows that churches, priests, theologians, what-have-you, are all totally superfluous idjits of totally unjustified existence.
No wonder exchange with those of greater learning was never sought. Who the hell needs to talk to scholars when he knows it all? :roll:
google translate :lamo:lamointerprets the 26th letter of the (modern) Arabic alphabet (6th in older abjadi) as "and", no matter in what context of use. Not a "but", not a "hence" not a "then", not anything else, just "and". In other words no distinction in use as (prefixed) resumption particle, result particle or conjunction particle. And thus (we see) that of such substance internet linguists be made.:roll:
Wow indeed (it's actually waw, but never mind).
Priceless.
You're not seeing any softballs, Stevecanuck. You're in fact not seeing anything at all on account of not even being on the field. Not the field of knowledge of any Arabic, not the field of knowledge on any other related subject.
Aaaah, implications are not everybody's thing, it appears.
Nor logic.
Where the question could be seen as arising where the logic lies in going thru the whole rigmarole of admonishments (I mean why not beat the crap out of her right from the start if that's going to be the final and most important action anyway?), better not bother with those that might get over-challenged by it.
Good to know though that some don't need any explanation of the word of (any) God. Shows that churches, priests, theologians, what-have-you, are all totally superfluous idjits of totally unjustified existence.
No wonder exchange with those of greater learning was never sought. Who the hell needs to talk to scholars when he knows it all? :roll:
google translate :lamo:lamointerprets the 26th letter of the (modern) Arabic alphabet (6th in older abjadi) as "and", no matter in what context of use. Not a "but", not a "hence" not a "then", not anything else, just "and". In other words no distinction in use as (prefixed) resumption particle, result particle or conjunction particle. And thus (we see) that of such substance internet linguists be made.:roll:
Wow indeed (it's actually waw, but never mind).
Priceless.
You're not seeing any softballs, Stevecanuck. You're in fact not seeing anything at all on account of not even being on the field. Not the field of knowledge of any Arabic, not the field of knowledge on any other related subject.
That's your comeback to the apparent linguistic deficits of yours that have been addressed?Awwww, that's just so pathetic. You've been reduced to pretending to quibble about the meaning and pronunciation of the simplest word in the world. That's just.......sad. Sad, but amusing.
That's your comeback to the apparent linguistic deficits of yours that have been addressed?
Yeah, as I said, you're not even on the field.
Anywhere.
Sad indeed.
Here's an article that claims Muhammad (the guy who married a 9 year old girl) is "arguably" the first feminist.
Muhammad Was A Feminist | Huffington Post
The refutation to this article is in Muhammad's own words:
Yeah, he's very feminist alright. :roll:
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