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The video is self explanatory and catches MSNBC red handed using selective editing to play fast and loose with the truth.
MSNBC Edits Congressman to Make it Seem He Said Food Stamp Recipients Are Rapists, Pedophiles and Murderers | MRCTV
It may be self explanatory to you, but it sure isn't to me. Noel Sheppard says they edited it to make it sound as if food stamp recipients are all rapists, pedophiles, and murderers which is completely ridiculous, that wasn't the intent at all. And that's not the way the woman responded either.The video is self explanatory and catches MSNBC red handed using selective editing to play fast and loose with the truth.
MSNBC Edits Congressman to Make it Seem He Said Food Stamp Recipients Are Rapists, Pedophiles and Murderers | MRCTV
It may be self explanatory to you, but it sure isn't to me. Noel Sheppard says they edited it to make it sound as if food stamp recipients are all rapists, pedophiles, and murderers which is completely ridiculous, that wasn't the intent at all. And that's not the way the woman responded either.
Take a gander at the title of the link: MSNBC Edits Congressman to Make it Seem He Said Food Stamp Recipients Are Rapists, Pedophiles and MurderersWho gives a crap what Noel Shepherd thinks? I posted this video, but I did not include anyone elses commentary along with it.
The original was even worse. MSNBC did him a favor.
Basically like all Republicans, the guy just hates poor kids.
Typical of a liberal, your coddling those who molest children, rape women, and kill innocents. You're the one who is hateful.
So you're saying the guy did call food stamp users rapists?
Man, your narrative is way off track.
But back to the OP. I watched the original recording. The guy, like all conservatives, hates poor Americans and wants to punish them. MSNBC did him a favor by not focusing on that.
No. He said that rapists, pedophiles, and murderers shouldn't be eligible for food stamps, so they don't compete with those struggling to get by. And you said that prohibiting rapists, pedophiles, and murders from obtaining food stamps is hating on the poor. Which is either completely insane, or completely dishonest. Coming from you, I'm not sure which one to expect.
Shouldn't those guys be in jail? Sounds like just another stupid statement to make the sheep froth at the mouth. No real substance.
You would be surprised in today's society. I've seen far too many rapists get 3 years in a plea, then as soon as they get out of jail they break their house arrest and go kidnap and rape another girl. Either way, I really have zero idea why anyone would be in favor of allowing rapists, murders, and pedophiles to qualify for government assistance. If anything, you are right, they should still be rotting in jail.
No body really is. Is one of those stupid nonissue statements politicians are famous for making.
Both sides are guilty of it really. But either way, I enjoy watching people make an ass out of themselves trying to defend ex-murderers.
Shouldn't those guys be in jail? Sounds like just another stupid statement to make the sheep froth at the mouth. No real substance.
I think the commentator was wrong in her interpretation, but the editing of the clip shows the intent by the senator was to keep criminals from getting food stamps over law abiding citizens.
It seems very clear from the edit the congressman did not call food stamp recipients rapists, pedophiles, or murderers, but rather that he wanted to make it so they cannot get benefits.
Oddly the congressmen misses the reality if they were in jail we provide them food, shelter, clothing, and health care. It is a lot more than 200 a month in SNAP benefits. Also, we do not keep people in jail for those crimes for life many times. He is talking about removing people with a criminal record from being able to get food stamps. If we had jobs for everyone to integrate back into society and start participating in the workforce I would be with the congressman. Howerver, since the reality is a felony conviction will make it much harder for you to do the right thing and work, I cannot say they is too much alternative to the very minimal effort we make to give them a reason to not re-offend.
the real problem boils down to you need a job to survive without assistance, and when jobs are not available to all people (the finite number of jobs in america is far lower than the number of workers we have) it is hard to say let them die. After all, they are not just going to lay down and die peacefully, especially if they are criminals. The idea is somewhat arguable, but the argument is a distraction over the real issue that many people who would work to survive are not entitled to a job due to supply which means a lot in the argument over government assistance and it's necessity in many different sections of society.
So you agree completely with the OP then. I didn't alter your words at all; you made these two statements. You clearly agree with the OP.
There is certainly people in need, and there may be a criminal who dd his time that needs assistance. But there isn't really any significant rapist murder population on welfare.
Oh, they are there if they fall into the realm of SNAP recipients. I do not believe that convicted felons are unable to get benefits as there are ones that do. You are arguing a completely differrent point than either MSNBC or Newsbusters makes about the edited footage. I think there is a reasonable debate to be had about the ability of convicted felons to get government benefits, though i think that we are in a hard place because it is much harder for them to get jobs which means they will have a harder time not resorting to crime without help from the government if they want to participate within society after release as some do. But the congressman clearly did say removing the criminals from the roles to allow for benefits for law abiding people. Whether you think there is a lot or just a few makes no real difference in that argument. It should also be noted that for parole, probation, and release to a halfway house criminals are under obligation to seek out jobs and attempt to become employed which law abiding recipients are not under most of the time for SNAP.
I believe I read rapists and murderers. Very specific. Many people don't seem to understand that rape and murder aren't the only felonies possible.
Look, some people seem to e real Old Testament. They want punishment, forever, no forgiveness. I'm more New Testament. Once your time is done, your debt is paid, I'm willing to start new. I don't mind hiring felons, nor granting welfare rights if thy don't find work.
That said, there is no huge rapist and murderer welfare population.
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