Most of The World Could Be 100% Powered With Renewables by 2050

[Bergslagstroll]

Why would you think that if the fossil fuel market was weak and dysfunctional, that it would pose a threat to renewable energy.
The reality is that the renewable sources, cannot yet fill all the requirements, currently filled by fossil fuels.
Hydrocarbon energy storage is what will allow wind and solar to become mainstream realities, yet you seem resistant to the idea.

Fossil fuels have made both large corporations and brutal dictatorships extremely wealthy and powerful. There those companies and regimes have used their influence to delay action on climate change and instead get benefits and actions that benefited them.

Putin ties put Germany's ex-chancellor under pressure – DW – 03/01/2022

Gerhard Schröder, who works for oil giants Gazprom and Rosneft, has been pressed to disavow the war in Ukraine. His silence has caused some of his staff to quit in protest and business partners are distancing themselves.

www.dw.com

Bush's sordid Saudi ties set template for Trump – he was just more subtle

The former president has been widely praised for his command of foreign policy. The reality, writes the author of House of Bush, House of Saud, was much more complex – and dark

www.theguardian.com

“Kochland” Examines the Koch Brothers’ Early, Crucial Role in Climate-Change Denial

A new book by Christopher Leonard reveals how Charles and David Koch crippled government action on climate change.

www.newyorker.com

Fossil fuel big five 'spent €251m lobbying EU' since 2010

Report comes amid calls for set up of firewall to protect politics from industry influence

www.theguardian.com

There that massive influence has for example led to western governments having spent trillions of dollars on intervention in the Middle East. While at the same time spent a lot less on action on the transition away from fossil fuels, even with the massive cost of both climate change, toxic pollutants and dependency on ruthless dictatorships.

Fossil fuel companies could also have used some of their billion dollars profits to develop the fuels you propose if it had been an realistic option. While also with their massive influence easily got the government to develop the fuels you propose. Instead the fossil fuel companies still don't have any planes to produce significant amounts of the fuels you propose.

 

[longview]

Fossil fuels have made both large corporations and brutal dictatorships extremely wealthy and powerful. There those companies and regimes have used their influence to delay action on climate change and instead get benefits and actions that benefited them.

Putin ties put Germany's ex-chancellor under pressure – DW – 03/01/2022

Gerhard Schröder, who works for oil giants Gazprom and Rosneft, has been pressed to disavow the war in Ukraine. His silence has caused some of his staff to quit in protest and business partners are distancing themselves.

www.dw.com

Bush's sordid Saudi ties set template for Trump – he was just more subtle

The former president has been widely praised for his command of foreign policy. The reality, writes the author of House of Bush, House of Saud, was much more complex – and dark

www.theguardian.com

“Kochland” Examines the Koch Brothers’ Early, Crucial Role in Climate-Change Denial

A new book by Christopher Leonard reveals how Charles and David Koch crippled government action on climate change.

www.newyorker.com

Fossil fuel big five 'spent €251m lobbying EU' since 2010

Report comes amid calls for set up of firewall to protect politics from industry influence

www.theguardian.com

There that massive influence has for example led to western governments having spent trillions of dollars on intervention in the Middle East. While at the same time spent a lot less on action on the transition away from fossil fuels, even with the massive cost of both climate change, toxic pollutants and dependency on ruthless dictatorships.

Fossil fuel companies could also have used some of their billion dollars profits to develop the fuels you propose if it had been an realistic option. While also with their massive influence easily got the government to develop the fuels you propose. Instead the fossil fuel companies still don't have any planes to produce significant amounts of the fuels you propose.

Perhaps you should not condemn the oil companies so much, as they are likely the ones who will make the changes to get CO2 emissions under control. It will not be intentional, but simply a side effect of market driven energy solutions!

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Perhaps you should not condemn the oil companies so much, as they are likely the ones who will make the changes to get CO2 emissions under control. It will not be intentional, but simply a side effect of market driven energy solutions!

Of course the fossil fuel companies should be condemned because they are a big reason that action on climate change has been delayed for so many decades. There we now are running out of time and the fossil fuel companies still don't have any plans to produce a significant amount of the fuels you propose.

The top 10 global weather and climate change events of 2021 » Yale Climate Connections

The most extreme heat wave in modern history, a record four $20 billion-plus weather disasters, and the hottest month on record globally highlighted a remarkable year in weather.

yaleclimateconnections.org

State of Climate in 2021: Extreme events and major impacts

Record atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations and associated accumulated heat have propelled the planet into uncharted territory, with far-reaching repercussions for current and future generations, according to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).

public.wmo.int

Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago

A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote misinformation

www.scientificamerican.com

How the oil industry made us doubt climate change

Energy companies stand accused of trying to downplay their contribution to global warming.

www.bbc.com

Also being dependent on fossil fuels means being dependent on ruthless dictatorships so you can’t really call it a functional market. Especially since those dictators use their wealth and influence to corrupt Western politics and manipulate fossil fuel prices. As well as using their massive wealth from fossil fuels to fund the golden life styles of themselves and their cronies instead of bettering the lives of the ordinary citizens. That at the same time the money is used to fund horrific wars.

MSN

www.msn.com

Why Britain’s Tories are addicted to Russian money

Politics has stymied efforts to clean up Londongrad.

www.politico.eu

 

[longview]

Of course the fossil fuel companies should be condemned because they are a big reason that action on climate change has been delayed for so many decades. There we now are running out of time and the fossil fuel companies still don't have any plans to produce a significant amount of the fuels you propose.

The top 10 global weather and climate change events of 2021 » Yale Climate Connections

The most extreme heat wave in modern history, a record four $20 billion-plus weather disasters, and the hottest month on record globally highlighted a remarkable year in weather.

yaleclimateconnections.org

State of Climate in 2021: Extreme events and major impacts

Record atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations and associated accumulated heat have propelled the planet into uncharted territory, with far-reaching repercussions for current and future generations, according to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).

public.wmo.int

Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago

A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote misinformation

www.scientificamerican.com

How the oil industry made us doubt climate change

Energy companies stand accused of trying to downplay their contribution to global warming.

www.bbc.com

Also being dependent on fossil fuels means being dependent on ruthless dictatorships so you can’t really call it a functional market. Especially since those dictators use their wealth and influence to corrupt Western politics and manipulate fossil fuel prices. As well as using their massive wealth from fossil fuels to fund the golden life styles of themselves and their cronies instead of bettering the lives of the ordinary citizens. That at the same time the money is used to fund horrific wars.

MSN

www.msn.com

Why Britain’s Tories are addicted to Russian money

Politics has stymied efforts to clean up Londongrad.

www.politico.eu

Again, you are speculating about what the oil companies plans are, because neither you are I know.
What we do know is that Exxon Baytown, is retooling one of their Units now, to make low carbon fuels
from captured CO2 and hydrogen from CH4.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Again, you are speculating about what the oil companies plans are, because neither you are I know.
What we do know is that Exxon Baytown, is retooling one of their Units now, to make low carbon fuels
from captured CO2 and hydrogen from CH4.

What is clear is that we are desperately running out of time on climate change and also the massive cost of toxic pollutions and dependency on ruthless dictators. There are also many positive examples of the transition away from fossil fuels is happening all across the world.

Climate change: IPCC report warns of ‘irreversible’ impacts of global warming

IPCC scientists outline a harrowing summary of climate impacts already hurting people and species.

www.bbc.com

Norway At New Record High 92% Plugin EV Share In March - CleanTechnica

Norway, the leading nation for EV adoption, saw plugin autos take a market share of 91.94% in March, with 86.1% being full battery electrics.

cleantechnica.com

South Australia set sights on stunning new target of 500 pct renewables

South Australia predicts its emerging status as a local and global clean energy exporter could drive the state to more than 500 per cent renewables.

reneweconomy.com.au

That at the same time there is many examples of the potential to reduce car dependency and save energy.

No helmets, no problem: how the Dutch created a casual biking culture

A chat with the authors of a new book on cycling in the Netherlands.

www.vox.com

Ninety Percent of U.S. Homes Are Under Insulated

/PRNewswire/ -- Based on new research, the North American Insulation Manufacturers Association (NAIMA) estimates that roughly 90 percent of existing U.S....

www.prnewswire.com

While the fossil fuel companies still after many decades still haven't publish any concrete plans to start produce significant amount of the fuels you propose.

 

[longview]

What is clear is that we are desperately running out of time on climate change and also the massive cost of toxic pollutions and dependency on ruthless dictators. There are also many positive examples of the transition away from fossil fuels is happening all across the world.

Climate change: IPCC report warns of ‘irreversible’ impacts of global warming

IPCC scientists outline a harrowing summary of climate impacts already hurting people and species.

www.bbc.com

Norway At New Record High 92% Plugin EV Share In March - CleanTechnica

Norway, the leading nation for EV adoption, saw plugin autos take a market share of 91.94% in March, with 86.1% being full battery electrics.

cleantechnica.com

South Australia set sights on stunning new target of 500 pct renewables

South Australia predicts its emerging status as a local and global clean energy exporter could drive the state to more than 500 per cent renewables.

reneweconomy.com.au

That at the same time there is many examples of the potential to reduce car dependency and save energy.

No helmets, no problem: how the Dutch created a casual biking culture

A chat with the authors of a new book on cycling in the Netherlands.

www.vox.com

Ninety Percent of U.S. Homes Are Under Insulated

/PRNewswire/ -- Based on new research, the North American Insulation Manufacturers Association (NAIMA) estimates that roughly 90 percent of existing U.S....

www.prnewswire.com

While the fossil fuel companies still after many decades still haven't publish any concrete plans to start produce significant amount of the fuels you propose.

You are suffering under the illusion that there is some sort of time limit.
There is no tipping point, and all of the data beside computer simulations simulating impossible events,
show that the climate's sensitivity to added CO2 is very low.

Why would an oil company publish their plans and give their competition some advantage, before market conditions are ready and stable?

 

[Bergslagstroll]

You are suffering under the illusion that there is some sort of time limit.
There is no tipping point, and all of the data beside computer simulations simulating impossible events,
show that the climate's sensitivity to added CO2 is very low.

Why would an oil company publish their plans and give their competition some advantage, before market conditions are ready and stable?

Republicans had during Trump's presidency plenty of opportunities to disprove the urgent need for action instead was this report published under federal agencies under Donald Trump.

"The impacts of climate change are already being felt in communities across the country. More frequent and intense extreme weather and climate-related events, as well as changes in average climate conditions, are expected to continue to damage infrastructure, ecosystems, and social systems that provide essential benefits to communities. Future climate change is expected to further disrupt many areas of life, exacerbating existing challenges to prosperity posed by aging and deteriorating infrastructure, stressed ecosystems, and economic inequality. Impacts within and across regions will not be distributed equally. People who are already vulnerable, including lower-income and other marginalized communities, have lower capacity to prepare for and cope with extreme weather and climate-related events and are expected to experience greater impacts. Prioritizing adaptation actions for the most vulnerable populations would contribute to a more equitable future within and across communities. Global action to significantly cut greenhouse gas emissions can substantially reduce climate-related risks and increase opportunities for these populations in the longer term."

Fourth National Climate Assessment: Summary Findings

This report is an authoritative assessment of the science of climate change, with a focus on the United States. It represents the second of two volumes of the Fourth National Climate Assessment, mandated by the Global Change Research Act of 1990.

nca2018.globalchange.gov

There you also have the massive cost of toxic pollution and it also Western fossil fuel money that is funding the Russian war machine and the brutal regimes in the Middle East.

More than 90% of the world’s children breathe toxic air every day

Every day around 93% of the world’s children under the age of 15 years (1.8 billion children) breathe air that is so polluted it puts their health and development at serious risk. Tragically, many of them die: WHO estimates that in 2016, 600,000 children died from acute lower respiratory...

www.who.int

3.7 million people flee Ukraine: UN

Some 3.7 million people have fled Ukraine since Russia's invasion a month ago, the UN said Friday.

www.france24.com

World Report 2022: Rights Trends in Saudi Arabia

www.hrw.org

Also the fossil fuel market haven't been stable since the 70's oil crisis. That it time after time have been periods of skyrocketing fossil fuel prices because of conflicts and crisis. This combined with periods of price wars there Middle East countries have for example taking out North American competitors by ramping up the production. There the dictators in the Middle East would use the same tactics against the fuels you propose.

 

[longview]

Republicans had during Trump's presidency plenty of opportunities to disprove the urgent need for action instead was this report published under federal agencies under Donald Trump.

"The impacts of climate change are already being felt in communities across the country. More frequent and intense extreme weather and climate-related events, as well as changes in average climate conditions, are expected to continue to damage infrastructure, ecosystems, and social systems that provide essential benefits to communities. Future climate change is expected to further disrupt many areas of life, exacerbating existing challenges to prosperity posed by aging and deteriorating infrastructure, stressed ecosystems, and economic inequality. Impacts within and across regions will not be distributed equally. People who are already vulnerable, including lower-income and other marginalized communities, have lower capacity to prepare for and cope with extreme weather and climate-related events and are expected to experience greater impacts. Prioritizing adaptation actions for the most vulnerable populations would contribute to a more equitable future within and across communities. Global action to significantly cut greenhouse gas emissions can substantially reduce climate-related risks and increase opportunities for these populations in the longer term."

Fourth National Climate Assessment: Summary Findings

This report is an authoritative assessment of the science of climate change, with a focus on the United States. It represents the second of two volumes of the Fourth National Climate Assessment, mandated by the Global Change Research Act of 1990.

nca2018.globalchange.gov

There you also have the massive cost of toxic pollution and it also Western fossil fuel money that is funding the Russian war machine and the brutal regimes in the Middle East.

More than 90% of the world’s children breathe toxic air every day

Every day around 93% of the world’s children under the age of 15 years (1.8 billion children) breathe air that is so polluted it puts their health and development at serious risk. Tragically, many of them die: WHO estimates that in 2016, 600,000 children died from acute lower respiratory...

www.who.int

3.7 million people flee Ukraine: UN

Some 3.7 million people have fled Ukraine since Russia's invasion a month ago, the UN said Friday.

www.france24.com

World Report 2022: Rights Trends in Saudi Arabia

www.hrw.org

Also the fossil fuel market haven't been stable since the 70's oil crisis. That it time after time have been periods of skyrocketing fossil fuel prices because of conflicts and crisis. This combined with periods of price wars there Middle East countries have for example taking out North American competitors by ramping up the production. There the dictators in the Middle East would use the same tactics against the fuels you propose.

Again, there is no proof for any urgent action!
If you think some exists, then cite the peer reviewed publications that say so, and under what future scenarios?

 

[Threegoofs]

Again, there is no proof for any urgent action!
If you think some exists, then cite the peer reviewed publications that say so, and under what future scenarios?

When will you ever get around to reading this?

It’s exactly what you were asking for.

Summary for Policymakers — IPCC

www.ipcc.ch

Weird that you keep asking to see it but never acknowledge it.

 

[Lord of Planar]

When will you ever get around to reading this?

It’s exactly what you were asking for.

Summary for Policymakers — IPCC

www.ipcc.ch

Weird that you keep asking to see it but never acknowledge it.

How is that meaningful evidence?

Look like a path of indoctrination to me.

 

[longview]

When will you ever get around to reading this?

It’s exactly what you were asking for.

Summary for Policymakers — IPCC

www.ipcc.ch

Weird that you keep asking to see it but never acknowledge it.

The IPCC is not a peer reviewed article, but a summary of the concepts of AGW.
Also, can you quote in the IPCC report where they are calling for urgency, that is not tied to a unlikely emission scenario?

 

[Threegoofs]

The IPCC is not a peer reviewed article, but a summary of the concepts of AGW.
Also, can you quote in the IPCC report where they are calling for urgency, that is not tied to a unlikely emission scenario?

The IPCC is certainly peer reviewed. It’s not an article, it’s a comprehensive review.

I’m not bothering to waste my time finding quotes when you don’t even grasp what the report is.

 

[Threegoofs]

How is that meaningful evidence?

Look like a path of indoctrination to me.

It’s called a consensus summary of people who study the problem for a living.

I realize you think you know more than everyone, even though you haven’t worked in the field at all and probably never met or discussed this with an actual working scientist in your life.

That’s why many of us laugh.

 

[longview]

The IPCC is certainly peer reviewed. It’s not an article, it’s a comprehensive review.

I’m not bothering to waste my time finding quotes when you don’t even grasp what the report is.

You should say you are unable to fine any matching quotes!

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Again, there is no proof for any urgent action!
If you think some exists, then cite the peer reviewed publications that say so, and under what future scenarios?

Here is a quote from the overview for the report I linked to. There that overview reference the chapters in the reports there those chapters in turn extensively refence peer review studies.

"However, the assumption that current and future climate conditions will resemble the recent past is no longer valid (Ch. 28: Adaptation, KM 2). Observations collected around the world provide significant, clear, and compelling evidence that global average temperature is much higher, and is rising more rapidly, than anything modern civilization has experienced, with widespread and growing impacts (Figure 1.2) (CSSR, Ch. 1.9). The warming trend observed over the past century can only be explained by the effects that human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases, have had on the climate (Ch. 2: Climate, KM 1 and Figure 2.1).

Climate change is transforming where and how we live and presents growing challenges to human health and quality of life, the economy, and the natural systems that support us. Risks posed by climate variability and change vary by region and sector and by the vulnerability of people experiencing impacts. Social, economic, and geographic factors shape the exposure of people and communities to climate-related impacts and their capacity to respond. Risks are often highest for those that are already vulnerable, including low-income communities, some communities of color, children, and the elderly (Ch. 14: Human Health, KM 2; Ch. 15: Tribes, KM 1–3; Ch. 28: Adaptation, Introduction). Climate change threatens to exacerbate existing social and economic inequalities that result in higher exposure and sensitivity to extreme weather and climate-related events and other changes (Ch. 11: Urban, KM 1). Marginalized populations may also be affected disproportionately by actions to address the underlying causes and impacts of climate change, if they are not implemented under policies that consider existing inequalities (Ch. 11: Urban, KM 4; Ch. 28: Adaptation, KM 4)."

Fourth National Climate Assessment: Chapter 1: Overview

This report is an authoritative assessment of the science of climate change, with a focus on the United States. It represents the second of two volumes of the Fourth National Climate Assessment, mandated by the Global Change Research Act of 1990.

nca2018.globalchange.gov

Also that report was published by federal agencies in 2018. So that the Trump administrations and Republicans in Congress like James Inhofe could have easily stopped the report if it was not based on strong scientific evidence.

"Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) is the chairman of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works. According to Oil Change International, Inhofe has received over $2 million in political contributions from the fossil fuel industry. He once compared the Environmental Protection Agency to the Gestapo, and brought a snowball onto the Senate floor to ‘disprove’ global warming. Sen. Inhofe, author of the 2012 book The Greatest Hoax: How the Global Warming Conspiracy Threatens Your Future, once claimed on the Senate floor that “man-made global warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people.”"

Top 11 Climate Deniers: Key Players Revealed - Before The Flood

Unmask the top climate change deniers who are influencing public opinion and policy. This article sheds light on the individuals and organizations that have played significant roles in climate disinformation.

www.beforetheflood.com

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Investment into renewable energy and green hydrogen can become an important part of rebuilding Ukraine when the horrific war is over. There Ukraine by exporting electricity and green hydrogen can help EU to end it's dependency on Russia and other brutal dictatorships.

Ukraine 'could become a vital supplier of renewable energy to Europe' - Energy Live News

Ukraine geographically and climatically has a "huge potential" for the development of renewables, DTEK Executive Director has said

www.energylivenews.com

Ukraine targets quick post-war return to renewable gas, hydrogen plans with EU

The EU and Ukraine plan to pick up on hydrogen and renewable gas export projects as soon Russia s war on Ukraine is over, an adviser to the Ukrainian government said April 13.

www.spglobal.com

 

[longview]

Here is a quote from the overview for the report I linked to. There that overview reference the chapters in the reports there those chapters in turn extensively refence peer review studies.

"However, the assumption that current and future climate conditions will resemble the recent past is no longer valid (Ch. 28: Adaptation, KM 2). Observations collected around the world provide significant, clear, and compelling evidence that global average temperature is much higher, and is rising more rapidly, than anything modern civilization has experienced, with widespread and growing impacts (Figure 1.2) (CSSR, Ch. 1.9). The warming trend observed over the past century can only be explained by the effects that human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases, have had on the climate (Ch. 2: Climate, KM 1 and Figure 2.1).

Climate change is transforming where and how we live and presents growing challenges to human health and quality of life, the economy, and the natural systems that support us. Risks posed by climate variability and change vary by region and sector and by the vulnerability of people experiencing impacts. Social, economic, and geographic factors shape the exposure of people and communities to climate-related impacts and their capacity to respond. Risks are often highest for those that are already vulnerable, including low-income communities, some communities of color, children, and the elderly (Ch. 14: Human Health, KM 2; Ch. 15: Tribes, KM 1–3; Ch. 28: Adaptation, Introduction). Climate change threatens to exacerbate existing social and economic inequalities that result in higher exposure and sensitivity to extreme weather and climate-related events and other changes (Ch. 11: Urban, KM 1). Marginalized populations may also be affected disproportionately by actions to address the underlying causes and impacts of climate change, if they are not implemented under policies that consider existing inequalities (Ch. 11: Urban, KM 4; Ch. 28: Adaptation, KM 4)."

Fourth National Climate Assessment: Chapter 1: Overview

This report is an authoritative assessment of the science of climate change, with a focus on the United States. It represents the second of two volumes of the Fourth National Climate Assessment, mandated by the Global Change Research Act of 1990.

nca2018.globalchange.gov

Also that report was published by federal agencies in 2018. So that the Trump administrations and Republicans in Congress like James Inhofe could have easily stopped the report if it was not based on strong scientific evidence.

"Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) is the chairman of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works. According to Oil Change International, Inhofe has received over $2 million in political contributions from the fossil fuel industry. He once compared the Environmental Protection Agency to the Gestapo, and brought a snowball onto the Senate floor to ‘disprove’ global warming. Sen. Inhofe, author of the 2012 book The Greatest Hoax: How the Global Warming Conspiracy Threatens Your Future, once claimed on the Senate floor that “man-made global warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people.”"

Top 11 Climate Deniers: Key Players Revealed - Before The Flood

Unmask the top climate change deniers who are influencing public opinion and policy. This article sheds light on the individuals and organizations that have played significant roles in climate disinformation.

www.beforetheflood.com

Let's discuss the first two paragraphs of your quote.
The first paragraph simply says that since we have had accurate thermometers, the average temperature has increased.
The second paragraph says that the possible impacts of that warming would fall on the poor disproportionally.
About those impacts on the poor, since we have been attempting to "Do Something" about climate change,
the price of basic food products has nearly doubled, some of that because of the ethanol program.
In many places, the price of electricity has increased quite a bit, not because of climate change, but partly because
of programs designed to fight climate change.
Now you are calling for more action to happen urgently, perhaps we would be better served by actually identifying
what the problem is vs attempting to solve a made up problem.
We do not have a CO2 problem, but an energy problem!

 

[Bergslagstroll]

Let's discuss the first two paragraphs of your quote.
The first paragraph simply says that since we have had accurate thermometers, the average temperature has increased.
The second paragraph says that the possible impacts of that warming would fall on the poor disproportionally.
About those impacts on the poor, since we have been attempting to "Do Something" about climate change,
the price of basic food products has nearly doubled, some of that because of the ethanol program.
In many places, the price of electricity has increased quite a bit, not because of climate change, but partly because
of programs designed to fight climate change.
Now you are calling for more action to happen urgently, perhaps we would be better served by actually identifying
what the problem is vs attempting to solve a made up problem.
We do not have a CO2 problem, but an energy problem!

My quote had direct links to different chapters in the report. There if you had read those chapters you could see that there are many types of data that shows the rapid warming and that it caused by human emissions of C02. The chapters linked to in the quote also clearly shows the devastating effects climate change already have and will have in the future. There climate change also already have a negative effect on farming.

Climate crisis cuts Australian farm profits by a quarter over past 20 years

Reports finds profits could fall by up to 50% within three decades if global emissions are not significantly reduced and farmers don’t adapt to changing climate

www.theguardian.com

Also ever since the 70's oil crisis you time after time have had skyrocketing fossil fuel prices because of conflict and crisis. While you just during the last decades have seen rapid reduction in cost of renewable energy.

Why did renewables become so cheap so fast?

In most places power from new renewables is now cheaper than new fossil fuels.

ourworldindata.org

That at the same time action on climate change could pay for themselves simply from the positive effects of reducing toxic air pollutions.

Health benefits far outweigh the costs of meeting climate change goals

Meeting the goals of the Paris Agreement could save about a million lives a year worldwide by 2050 through reductions in air pollution alone. The latest estimates from leading experts also indicate that the value of health gains from climate action would be approximately double the cost of...

www.who.int

There fossil fuels consumptions also leads to the enormous cost of being dependent on and funding ruthless dictatorships.

 

[longview]

My quote had direct links to different chapters in the report. There if you had read those chapters you could see that there are many types of data that shows the rapid warming and that it caused by human emissions of C02. The chapters linked to in the quote also clearly shows the devastating effects climate change already have and will have in the future. There climate change also already have a negative effect on farming.

Climate crisis cuts Australian farm profits by a quarter over past 20 years

Reports finds profits could fall by up to 50% within three decades if global emissions are not significantly reduced and farmers don’t adapt to changing climate

www.theguardian.com

Also ever since the 70's oil crisis you time after time have had skyrocketing fossil fuel prices because of conflict and crisis. While you just during the last decades have seen rapid reduction in cost of renewable energy.

Why did renewables become so cheap so fast?

In most places power from new renewables is now cheaper than new fossil fuels.

ourworldindata.org

That at the same time action on climate change could pay for themselves simply from the positive effects of reducing toxic air pollutions.

Health benefits far outweigh the costs of meeting climate change goals

Meeting the goals of the Paris Agreement could save about a million lives a year worldwide by 2050 through reductions in air pollution alone. The latest estimates from leading experts also indicate that the value of health gains from climate action would be approximately double the cost of...

www.who.int

There fossil fuels consumptions also leads to the enormous cost of being dependent on and funding ruthless dictatorships.

All of what you write are reasons to get off of oil, I agree, we need to get off of oil as quickly as possible.
Where we disagree is the path to take to get off of oil.
I am advocating that if we equally encourage all viable paths to a sustainable energy future, we will all be better off.
Battery electric cars are not a viable path to get off of oil.

 

[Bergslagstroll]

All of what you write are reasons to get off of oil, I agree, we need to get off of oil as quickly as possible.
Where we disagree is the path to take to get off of oil.
I am advocating that if we equally encourage all viable paths to a sustainable energy future, we will all be better off.
Battery electric cars are not a viable path to get off of oil.

Electric cars works even in the northern most part of Norway.

Electric vehicles account for 80% of sales in Norway’s northernmost region

Coldest winter in years doesn’t scare customers in Finnmark region on the top of Norway from buying battery-powered cars.

thebarentsobserver.com

While the fossil fuel companies have known about the need for action on climate change and the massive cost of being dependent on ruthless dictators for many decades and still not have publish any concrete plans to start produce significant amount of the fuels you propose.

That at the same time the fuels you propose will require many times more electricity and energy than electric cars. There that any electricity and energy is needed to replace fossil fuels in many other areas so that we can reduce the devastating effects of climate change and also reduce the dependency on brutal dictators.

E-fuels won’t save the internal combustion engine - International Council on Clean Transportation

E-fuels are a prohibitively expensive and remarkably inefficient way to decarbonize the transportation sector.

theicct.org

 

[longview]

Electric cars works even in the northern most part of Norway.

Electric vehicles account for 80% of sales in Norway’s northernmost region

Coldest winter in years doesn’t scare customers in Finnmark region on the top of Norway from buying battery-powered cars.

thebarentsobserver.com

While the fossil fuel companies have known about the need for action on climate change and the massive cost of being dependent on ruthless dictators for many decades and still not have publish any concrete plans to start produce significant amount of the fuels you propose.

That at the same time the fuels you propose will require many times more electricity and energy than electric cars. There that any electricity and energy is needed to replace fossil fuels in many other areas so that we can reduce the devastating effects of climate change and also reduce the dependency on brutal dictators.

E-fuels won’t save the internal combustion engine - International Council on Clean Transportation

E-fuels are a prohibitively expensive and remarkably inefficient way to decarbonize the transportation sector.

theicct.org

I am not sure why you choose not to see that replacing IC cars with battery electric cars will take a long time, and will not have much of an impact on emissions!
What we need to fix is every vehicle that burns oil based fuels, heavy trucks, ships, jets, ect!
Fixing the fuel does this, changing cars to battery electrics, does not!

 

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I am not sure why you choose not to see that replacing IC cars with battery electric cars will take a long time, and will not have much of an impact on emissions!
What we need to fix is every vehicle that burns oil based fuels, heavy trucks, ships, jets, ect!
Fixing the fuel does this, changing cars to battery electrics, does not!

Fossil fuel companies are not able to produce the fuels you propose even with today’s massive increase in fossil fuel prices that funds the Russian war machine.

Russia doubles fossil fuel revenues since invasion of Ukraine began

Country receives about €62bn from exports of oil, gas and coal in two months, with Germany the biggest importer

www.theguardian.com

Also the rapid transition away from fossil fuel will require massive amounts of energy and electricity so you need to select the most efficient solutions. When it comes to new vehicles it's electric vehicles that require many times less electricity compared to the fuels you propose. New cars are often driven longer distances thereby increasing the impact. Electric cars can also be used as energy storage and therefore help to speed up the build out of cheap renewable energy.

Electric buses stored in London garage to become ‘virtual power station’

A bus garage in North London is set to become the world’s largest vehicle-to-grid (V2G) site, generating electricity from electric buses when not in use.

eandt.theiet.org

Investment in public transport and bike lanes can both lead to a more efficient and cheaper transport system as well as speed up the retirement of older fossil fuel cars.

Paris to become 100 percent cycling city

With a massive investment in cycling infrastructure, the city of Paris, France is set to become one of the top bicycle-friendly cities on the planet

momentummag.com

Berlin expands bike lanes as COVID cycling boom continues

Berlin is making permanent the extra bike lanes it added during coronavirus lockdowns as it seeks to support the cycling boom that started in the pandemic.

www.reuters.com

Some older fossil fuel cars might soon also be replaced with self-driving taxis; this can be a part of a very efficient transport system. There you take public transport along the major commuter routes and if needed take an electric taxi the last mile.

Waymo says fully driverless rides are coming to San Francisco

A growing sense of confidence in Waymo’s AV technology

www.theverge.com

While yes, you need alternative fuels in some areas like for example long distance shipping and airplanes. Still hydrogen and even more so the fuels you propose will require massive amounts of energy to produce and the amount of sustainable biofuels are very limited. So that you also need efficient measures in those areas. Like for example that train travel can replace some shorter flights and more business meetings can be conducted online. There are also opportunities for ships to get some of their propulsion from for example modern sails.

New age of sail looks to slash massive maritime carbon emissions

Ocean shipping is presently the world’s sixth-largest carbon emitter. But a push by entrepreneurs is addressing the climate crisis and trying to revolutionize the industry with a next generation of wind-powered vessels.

news.mongabay.com

 

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Fossil fuel companies are not able to produce the fuels you propose even with today’s massive increase in fossil fuel prices that funds the Russian war machine.

Russia doubles fossil fuel revenues since invasion of Ukraine began

Country receives about €62bn from exports of oil, gas and coal in two months, with Germany the biggest importer

www.theguardian.com

Also the rapid transition away from fossil fuel will require massive amounts of energy and electricity so you need to select the most efficient solutions. When it comes to new vehicles it's electric vehicles that require many times less electricity compared to the fuels you propose. New cars are often driven longer distances thereby increasing the impact. Electric cars can also be used as energy storage and therefore help to speed up the build out of cheap renewable energy.

Electric buses stored in London garage to become ‘virtual power station’

A bus garage in North London is set to become the world’s largest vehicle-to-grid (V2G) site, generating electricity from electric buses when not in use.

eandt.theiet.org

Investment in public transport and bike lanes can both lead to a more efficient and cheaper transport system as well as speed up the retirement of older fossil fuel cars.

Paris to become 100 percent cycling city

With a massive investment in cycling infrastructure, the city of Paris, France is set to become one of the top bicycle-friendly cities on the planet

momentummag.com

Berlin expands bike lanes as COVID cycling boom continues

Berlin is making permanent the extra bike lanes it added during coronavirus lockdowns as it seeks to support the cycling boom that started in the pandemic.

www.reuters.com

Some older fossil fuel cars might soon also be replaced with self-driving taxis; this can be a part of a very efficient transport system. There you take public transport along the major commuter routes and if needed take an electric taxi the last mile.

Waymo says fully driverless rides are coming to San Francisco

A growing sense of confidence in Waymo’s AV technology

www.theverge.com

While yes, you need alternative fuels in some areas like for example long distance shipping and airplanes. Still hydrogen and even more so the fuels you propose will require massive amounts of energy to produce and the amount of sustainable biofuels are very limited. So that you also need efficient measures in those areas. Like for example that train travel can replace some shorter flights and more business meetings can be conducted online. There are also opportunities for ships to get some of their propulsion from for example modern sails.

New age of sail looks to slash massive maritime carbon emissions

Ocean shipping is presently the world’s sixth-largest carbon emitter. But a push by entrepreneurs is addressing the climate crisis and trying to revolutionize the industry with a next generation of wind-powered vessels.

news.mongabay.com

You still refuse to see that the options are limited.
Solar and Wind alone cannot meet our future energy requirements without massive energy storage.
All of your points involve people limiting their lifestyles in some way, even battery electric cars.
Why go there when we have other options that will cut emissions more, and not require limiting choices people make?
P.S. The price of oil will need to stabilize at the higher level, not just a price spike because of a war.

 

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You still refuse to see that the options are limited.
Solar and Wind alone cannot meet our future energy requirements without massive energy storage.
All of your points involve people limiting their lifestyles in some way, even battery electric cars.
Why go there when we have other options that will cut emissions more, and not require limiting choices people make?
P.S. The price of oil will need to stabilize at the higher level, not just a price spike because of a war.

The fossil fuel market is a boom and bust market. That you have periods of short supply when fossil fuel companies and ruthless dictators are making record profits. This combined with periods of oversupply when for example the Saudis ramp up the production to take out their competitors. So waiting for the oil prices to stabilize on a higher level can take time. Time we don't have because of climate change and we also need to rapidly stop the funding of Putin's crime against humanity in Ukraine.

Lake Mead plummets to unprecedented low, exposing original 1971 water intake valve | CNN

Lake Mead's plummeting water level has exposed one of the reservoir's original water intake valves for the first time, officials say.

edition.cnn.com

Delhi suffers at 49C as heatwave sweeps India

Experts say India is now recording more intense, frequent heatwaves which are also longer in duration.

www.bbc.com

Ukraine: Apparent War Crimes in Russia-Controlled Areas

Human Rights Watch has documented several cases of Russian military forces committing laws-of-war violations against civilians in occupied areas of the Chernihiv, Kharkiv, and Kyiv regions of Ukraine.

www.hrw.org

Also many families are already financially struggling because they are forced to own a car to get to work and do errands. While investments into for example public transport and bike lanes can save families a lot of money and create more freedom. There electric cars can also be cheaper to drive and own.

John Oliver Wants Subprime Auto Loans To Hit the Road

With help from Keegan-Michael Key and Bob Balaban

time.com

The Negative Consequences of Car Dependency

Auto-oriented towns experience serious challenges that negatively impact small businesses, community health, and financial success for everyone.

www.strongtowns.org

It is also possible to combine many different types of renewable energy, energy storage and other ways to regulate supply and demand of renewables instead of simply waiting for your inefficient fuels. There you are also now seeing a massive build out of renewable energy and there can be great potential to speed up that build out.

When will renewable energy overtake coal and gas? | World Economic Forum

 

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The fossil fuel market is a boom and bust market. That you have periods of short supply when fossil fuel companies and ruthless dictators are making record profits. This combined with periods of oversupply when for example the Saudis ramp up the production to take out their competitors. So waiting for the oil prices to stabilize on a higher level can take time. Time we don't have because of climate change and we also need to rapidly stop the funding of Putin's crime against humanity in Ukraine.

Lake Mead plummets to unprecedented low, exposing original 1971 water intake valve | CNN

Lake Mead's plummeting water level has exposed one of the reservoir's original water intake valves for the first time, officials say.

edition.cnn.com

Delhi suffers at 49C as heatwave sweeps India

Experts say India is now recording more intense, frequent heatwaves which are also longer in duration.

www.bbc.com

Ukraine: Apparent War Crimes in Russia-Controlled Areas

Human Rights Watch has documented several cases of Russian military forces committing laws-of-war violations against civilians in occupied areas of the Chernihiv, Kharkiv, and Kyiv regions of Ukraine.

www.hrw.org

Also many families are already financially struggling because they are forced to own a car to get to work and do errands. While investments into for example public transport and bike lanes can save families a lot of money and create more freedom. There electric cars can also be cheaper to drive and own.

John Oliver Wants Subprime Auto Loans To Hit the Road

With help from Keegan-Michael Key and Bob Balaban

time.com

The Negative Consequences of Car Dependency

Auto-oriented towns experience serious challenges that negatively impact small businesses, community health, and financial success for everyone.

www.strongtowns.org

It is also possible to combine many different types of renewable energy, energy storage and other ways to regulate supply and demand of renewables instead of simply waiting for your inefficient fuels. There you are also now seeing a massive build out of renewable energy and there can be great potential to speed up that build out.

When will renewable energy overtake coal and gas? | World Economic Forum

Sorry you still do not understand, and likely it is intentional. We will need every energy storage option open to us to replace fossil fuels, there is really no way around that!