Most charged in Capitol riot had no connection to extremist groups or one another, report finds

[Helix]

I have to imagine they're facing many a felony, yes?

one would assume. trying to overthrow the government seems to qualify.

 

[Taylor]

didnt ask for when LMAO i asked what they are factually of . . but i get it, the answer doesn;t support you so you dodged it

I guess I shouldn't have assumed that you would know what city the Washington Monument is located in...

 

[Ikari]

one would assume. trying to overthrow the government seems to qualify.

Yes, seems to be a pretty reasonable assumption. But reasonable behavior seems to be on the out for 2020/2021.

 

[Callen]

The reason I think its notable and relevant is this: many "lefties" want to categorize anyone who may be pro trump or at the Capitol that day as "white nationalists".

I dunno........if I was a Trump supporter I would rather have the storming of the Capitol blamed on radical extremists than on orinary , loyal Trump supporters.

 

[AGENT J]

I guess I shouldn't have assumed that you would know what city the Washington Monument is located in...

another complete dodge LMAO . . . can you quote me asking you WHERE . . oh thats right i didn't
Keep riding that dodge train!!

Ill ask you AGAIN, what are they factually of

 

[Rexedgar]

I have not.

I grew up there and started driving there. You had to know someone to think about a parking place........

 

[bearpoker]

The unthinking masses were the smokescreen for the bad actors with bad intent.

It reminds me of Benghazi. I wonder if someone took notes.

 

[Taylor]

another complete dodge LMAO . . . can you quote me asking you WHERE . . oh thats right i didn't
Keep riding that dodge train!!

Ill ask you AGAIN, what are they factually of

Another classic Agent J dodge. What's wrong? Don't know WHAT that pointy monument could possibly be? LMAO.

 

[AGENT J]

I dunno........if I was a Trump supporter I would rather have the storming of the Capitol blamed on radical extremists than on orinary , loyal Trump supporters.

id say based on polls extremists ARE the ordinary loyal Trump supporters, they are the standard and majority

and normal people that happen to support trump are the exception and minority
polls seem to suggest almost 66/33

regardless "belonging to an official group" is meaningless and just something for deniers to cling too

nobody honest buys that it matters. 1/6 was horrible and the people responsible were vastly Trump Voters made up of extremists . . some of them were Qanon nutters, some proud boys etc etc but all that stormed the capitol were POS terrorists

 

[AGENT J]

Another classic Agent J dodge. What's wrong? Don't know WHAT that pointy monument could possibly be? LMAO.

BOOM!!!! such a simple question but yet another post with no answer. why? because we all know it destroys the false narratives and lies in your posts LMAO . . . .come on . .whats those pictures factually of?

who bets my question is dodged and ran from again?

 

[ApersonLIKEallOFyou]

Any mention of what percentage of these people (the half mentioned here) were Q "followers"?

 

[AGENT J]

Any mention of what percentage of these people (the half mentioned here) were Q "followers"?

From pictures, and interviews id guess 80% whether they realize it or not lol

 

[bearpoker]

id say based on polls extremists ARE the ordinary loyal Trump supporters, they are the standard and majority

and normal people that happen to support trump are the exception and minority
polls seem to suggest almost 66/33

regardless "belonging to an official group" is meaningless and just something for deniers to cling too

nobody honest buys that it matters. 1/6 was horrible and the people responsible were vastly Trump Voters made up of extremists . . some of them were Qanon nutters, some proud boys etc etc but all that stormed the capitol were POS terrorists

I figured that maybe 10% of the rioters had actual plans to attack the Capitol. When the news reported that law enforcement was looking for 800 out of the 8,000 rioters I felt like I nailed it. So, about 800 of the rioters actually entered the Capitol. If they ever find the other 500, we'll know more. So far it looks to me like there were about 100 who actually had planned to commit violent crimes as opposed to trespassing and vandalism.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

SO let me get this straight:

If a German citizen in 1940 was not actually a member of the Nazi party but went to a pro-Hitler rally, well, that made it ok?

GAWD - the logic!!

 

[SkyFox76]

Another classic Agent J dodge. What's wrong? Don't know WHAT that pointy monument could possibly be? LMAO.

On what date were those photos taken.

 

[AGENT J]

1.) I figured that maybe 10% of the rioters had actual plans to attack the Capitol. When the news reported that law enforcement was looking for 800 out of the 8,000 rioters I felt like I nailed it. So, about 800 of the rioters actually entered the Capitol. If they ever find the other 500, we'll know more. So far it looks to me like there were about 100 who actually had planned to commit violent crimes as opposed to trespassing and vandalism.

I just wanna make sure i understand and I dont ASSume anything lol

where does the number of 8000 rioters come from?
I would call rioters the people that got violent, attacked police, tried to enter the capitol or did

If thats accurate you think maybe 10% of them had actual plans to do so thats why 800 are being looked for?

and in the end you think only about 100 planned to commit violent crimes

not saying you are wrong just dont know if i can agree with the numbers.

Im sure you are right that the numbers definitely step down! thats for sure and common sense just dont know what that make up is. I dont see the planners being that low based on all the stuff Donnie said for months and all the things that were posted online for months and said on video etc

I think its closer to 50% (for planning) but once things went down they simply didnt have the stones

 

[Manc Skipper]

id say based on polls extremists ARE the ordinary loyal Trump supporters, they are the standard and majority

and normal people that happen to support trump are the exception and minority
polls seem to suggest almost 66/33

regardless "belonging to an official group" is meaningless and just something for deniers to cling too

nobody honest buys that it matters. 1/6 was horrible and the people responsible were vastly Trump Voters made up of extremists . . some of them were Qanon nutters, some proud boys etc etc but all that stormed the capitol were POS terrorists

id say based on polls extremists ARE the ordinary loyal Trump supporters, they are the standard and majority

and normal people that happen to support trump are the exception and minority
polls seem to suggest almost 66/33

regardless "belonging to an official group" is meaningless and just something for deniers to cling too

nobody honest buys that it matters. 1/6 was horrible and the people responsible were vastly Trump Voters made up of extremists . . some of them were Qanon nutters, some proud boys etc etc but all that stormed the capitol were POS terrorists

Based on the evidence given by Director Wray half an hour ago, there were three groups.

Wray: 3 groups.
1) Peaceful maybe rowdy protestors not violating law.
2) People who came intending to protest, low level behavior, trespass on grounds, but not Capitol.
3) Smallest group but most serious, breached Capitol, violence against LE, disrupt Congress.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Simply because one is not formally a member of an extremist group ..... does not mean that they are not extremists.

Anyone who forced their way into our nation's Capitol is both a criminal and an extremist.

Indeed, and how many who attended the riot but did not enter or destroy government buildings were complicit? Their attendance directly facilitated the insurrection, the desecration of the Capital, the obstruction of Congress, the loss of lives and the injuries of over a hundred people.

Many, perhaps most, who attended were complicit in the riot and insurrection. They made the riot and insurrection possible. There is no denying that.

 

[AGENT J]

Based on the evidence given by Director Wray half an hour ago, there were three groups.

Wray: 3 groups.
1) Peaceful maybe rowdy protestors not violating law.
2) People who came intending to protest, low-level behavior, trespass on grounds, but not Capitol.
3) Smallest group but most serious, breached Capitol, violence against LE, disrupt Congress.

thank you for that info! i actually do appreciate it and find it interesting and it relates to other conversations being had here but that particular post you quoted was just about Trump voters in general. Sorry for the confusion

In general, I think the typical trump support is an extremist as suggested by pools of what they believe. For example, some polls show like 55% partially or fully support QANON conspiracy theories and up to 66% feel the election was stolen by mass voter fraud. Normal people that just happen to support trump are the minority of Trump voters.

as for the people at the capitol id be better at totally guessing and giving my opinion if i knew how many were there

IMO though based on the things Donnie said for months, the things online and on video by everyday people and even interviews of those there id guess 50% PLANNED on doing something criminal (even if they were dumb enough to think it was patriotic) but then many couldn't do it because they didnt have the stones . . . .as to the actual percentage of who planned or not and actually acted (in reference to the #3 small group). . . . .thats just a matter of how many were there vs how many attacked the police and stormed the capitol . . . . i dont know that number capitol

 

[MSgt]

Yes, we get it...
Breaking windows: Violent attack on the country
Burning historic buildings: Mostly peaceful

Now let me hear you say "baa!"

You clearly do not get it. Violence from BLM was not about attacking the country. Violence from Trump Nation was an actual ****ing attack by national traitors, who you are determined to defend.

Wouldn't it be nice if Trump Nation merely smashed some windows and tore down some slave statues rather than behaving like enemy Islamists and attacking my country? Except, Islamists have a grievance. Trump Nation had a debunked conspiracy theory, promotion the desecration of my Constitution, and actually hunted down Senators. Your personal need to avoid exactly what Trump's followers did in your name is obvious for all to see. It's the same crap you all did for four years to protect the piece of shit and his decrepit cult. In fact:

- On January 6, FOX News and further right-wing sources spent a lot of energy taking your attention off of what was happening and producing BLM stories.

- Immediately after January 6, right-wing media tried to spark off the falsehood that Antifa was behind it.

And in the meantime, throughout all of this, your leaders in D.C. continued to ham up the lie of Democrat fraud as they downplayed what their constituents did. All of it is just about making you feel comfortable about what you have become.

No...you do not get it.

 

[MSgt]

BOOM!!!! such a simple question but yet another post with no answer. why? because we all know it destroys the false narratives and lies in your posts LMAO . . . .come on . .whats those pictures factually of?

who bets my question is dodged and ran from again?

Were they false pictures?

 

[Objective Voice]

" WASHINGTON — Over half the people charged with taking part in the Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol were not connected to extremist groups or to one another, according to an analysis of arrest information."

Remember when reading this that the people this article deals with are only those actually being charged. The article, while reporting the facts, is highly prejudiced and keeps trying to call it a massive, organized, coup that was planned nationally by Conservative groups. The phony case used to justify the 10k Natl Guard troops and massive fencing and other measure that make our Capitol look like a war zone is evaporating faster than the Democrats credibility.

Most charged in Capitol riot had no connection to extremist groups or one another, report finds (nbcnews.com)

It still shouldn't make anyone feel comfortable knowing that nearly half of the Capital rioters DID know each other and DID coordinate efforts to storm the Capital. Even if 101 people make up the majority of non-associated rioters, that still leaves 99 rioters who were in on the plot. So, if your objective was to persuade folks "there's nothing to see here...move along" you've failed miserably.

Moreover, that's still 100+ people who stormed the Capital Building on former Pres. Trump's "say so". That in itself is cause for alarm.

So, either way folks try to spin this, it's not good.

 

[AGENT J]

Were they false pictures?

false pictures? how could I know that yet?
i simply asked a VERY simple question that STILL hasnt been answer just ran from over and over

I asked what the pictures were factually of . .. .

first i was given a date, then told DC

maybe after the 4th ill get an answer lol

 

[iguanaman]

hell, that makes it even WORSE.

Yes it does because it proves that they were radicalized by the one term mistakes behavior after the election and that he is personally responsible.

 

[Cardinal]

" WASHINGTON — Over half the people charged with taking part in the Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol were not connected to extremist groups or to one another, according to an analysis of arrest information."

Remember when reading this that the people this article deals with are only those actually being charged. The article, while reporting the facts, is highly prejudiced and keeps trying to call it a massive, organized, coup that was planned nationally by Conservative groups. The phony case used to justify the 10k Natl Guard troops and massive fencing and other measure that make our Capitol look like a war zone is evaporating faster than the Democrats credibility.

Most charged in Capitol riot had no connection to extremist groups or one another, report finds (nbcnews.com)

Sooooo...the ones who weren't tied to other extremists were just extremists themselves.

You didn't really think this through.