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Most Americans want to end lifetime Supreme Court appointments

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From Reuters: Most Americans want to end lifetime Supreme Court appointments

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A majority of Americans want to end lifetime appointments for U.S. Supreme Court justices, according to an Ipsos poll for Reuters, though less than half are in favor of other efforts to reform the judiciary.

The national opinion poll, conducted on Thursday and Friday, found that 63% of adults supported term or age limits for Supreme Court justices. Another 22% said they opposed any limits and the rest did not express an opinion.

The poll also found that only 38% would support expanding the size of the court by adding four more justices. Another 42% said they would oppose doing so and the rest were unsure.

Liberal activists and some legal scholars have been pushing for judicial reforms as Republican leaders in Congress built a 6-to-3 conservative Supreme Court majority over the past several years, in part by blocking a Democratic nominee and allowing Republican former President Donald Trump to install three picks during his single term.

Some Democratic lawmakers on Thursday introduced legislation to expand the Supreme Court to 13 justices, a move that they believe would restore public confidence in the judicial branch.
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It's a great idea, and will stop dead the Replicant manner of manipulating the Supreme Court to obtain its own ends ...
 
Most Americans cannot even name 5 of the Supreme Court Justices nor the chief justice. I don't put too much stock into that poll
 
Lafayette said:
From Reuters: Most Americans want to end lifetime Supreme Court appointments

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It's a great idea, and will stop dead the Replicant manner of manipulating the Supreme Court to obtain its own ends ...
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One poll, of 1003 adults, with no link to the data showing the age, political lean, and other data points.

For all we know they might have been given a list of Democrat voters in NYC and made all 1003 calls there.

In any case, members of this Forum already know I put no faith in polling as valid reflections of opinion, since such opinions are as changeable as the weather.
 
Captain Adverse said:
One poll, of 1003 adults, with no link to the data showing the age, political lean, and other data points.

For all we know they might have been given a list of Democrat voters in NYC and made all 1003 calls there.

In any case, members of this Forum already know I put no faith in polling as valid reflections of opinion, since such opinions are as changeable as the weather.
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You conduct another poll and prove otherwise!

Statement worth noting in the article!
The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online, in English, throughout the United States. The survey gathered responses from 1,003 adults. The results have a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of 4 percentage points.
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TurtleDude said:
Most Americans cannot even name 5 of the Supreme Court Justices nor the chief justice. I don't put too much stock into that poll
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Most cannot name the head of either chamber of Congress.

Civics Learning has gone to pot in America, because it was thought "irrelevant" in schools. When, in fact, it is key to any functional democracy.

I'd make a rule that no high-school diploma can be allowed if one does not pass a Civics Exam that proves they have had the proper instruction ...
 
CLAX1911 said:
The article is worth nothing if you're going to State most Americans think a certainly you need to present more than a statistical zero.
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More one-liner nonsense from the One-Liners that abound in this DEBATE forum!

Let's see the meat on your statement above. Prove what you say ...
 
Lafayette said:
More one-liner nonsense from the One-Liners that abound in this DEBATE forum!

Let's see the meat on your statement above. Prove what you say ...
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why do you care about our court? I suspect that no one, who is an American citizen, on this board, cares about how France picks its highest court
 
Lafayette said:
More one-liner nonsense from the One-Liners that abound in this DEBATE forum!

Let's see the meat on your statement above. Prove what you say ...
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But let's see there's 325 million Americans. You're bologna pole interview 1003 of them. That isn't even a hundredth of a percent.

1 100th of a percent is not most of Americans.

Simple math really.
 
CLAX1911 said:
But let's see there's 325 million Americans. You're bologna pole interview 1003 of them. That isn't even a hundredth of a percent.

1 100th of a percent is not most of Americans.

Simple math really.
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Kind of like the odds of dying from Covid.
 
Lafayette said:
Most cannot name the head of either chamber of Congress.

Civics Learning has gone to pot in America, because it was thought "irrelevant" in schools. When, in fact, it is key to any functional democracy.

I'd make a rule that no high-school diploma can be allowed if one does not pass a Civics Exam that proves they have had the proper instruction ...
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Knowing the names of the Justices is not relevant. Knowing how the Court works and what they are hearing is what matters...
 
VySky said:
And, 70% of voters support voter ID👍
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The problem there is that the US has no "viable" identification method.

In the EU a mother is given a birth certificate that serves to "identify" the child's date and place of birth. Both key pieces of information. And with it she could obtain a child's pass-port - which is not really needed nowadays in the EU.

Of course, outside of the EU, most countries let the kids in anyway. Which is a bit of a shame because that is how the child-slaves are sold!

I frankly don't know how it works in the US. But, I've found this from here (but be careful, it appears that the site is not working):
What is the identification procedure for a newborn?
Identification Banding - The process of affixing a non-permanent identification band(s) on a newborn, the birth mother, and appropriate support person (if applicable). These bands contain unique newborn identifiers. number written on the newborn's admission/separation record.
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Which is fine, at birth, but since there is no real need for an Identification Card until much later in life, what happens between birth and then?

Lotsa-luck if your mother did not keep the birth-certification .... !
 
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Lafayette said:
The problem there is that the US has no "viable" identification method.
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that's false we have many forms of ID
In the EU a mother is given a birth certificate that serves to "identify" the child's date and place of birth. Both key pieces of information.
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it works that same way in the US
I frankly don't know how it works in the US.
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Clearly.
 
CLAX1911 said:
But let's see there's 325 million Americans. You're bologna pole interview 1003 of them. That isn't even a hundredth of a percent.

1 100th of a percent is not most of Americans.

Simple math really.
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What you know about the techniques of statistical-sounding would not fill a thimble ...
 
CLAX1911 said:
that's false we have many forms of ID
it works that same way in the US

Clearly.
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You did not get the point I was trying to make. So infatuated are you to win an argument.

The birth-certificate that is not officiated at the official level of a nation isn't worth the ink with which it was printed. It has damn little credibility and can be easily falsified.

Do you GET that very delicate argument - or are you messing about in order to "win" an argument ... ?
 
Lafayette said:
You did not get the point I was trying to make. So infatuated are you to win an argument.

The birth-certificate that is not officiated at the official level of a nation isn't worth the ink with which it was printed. It has damn little credibility and can be easily falsified.

Do you GET that very delicate argument - or are you messing about in order to "win" an argument ... ?
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There is no debate to win here it's not happening there is what is false and what is correct it's 100% black and white.

What you are saying is not delicate it's not a debate it's false. I've lived here all my life and I know better than you.
 
TurtleDude said:
why do you care about our court? I suspect that no one, who is an American citizen, on this board, cares about how France picks its highest court
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Why should I not care? I'm a Yank who lives in France!

Why is it that jerks always seek to bring a "debate" down to the personal level? When public-debate should never ever descend that low to a personal level!

I've seen the duality of the two systems, US and EU. And, frankly, that's why I have been here for quite a long time. In many ways living in Europe is better than in the US. Not in all, but many ways*.

But, that is not the issue here - is it? The matter here is about birth-certificates - and the singular difference is that it is required (in the EU) nationally at birth in order to be registered as citizen of the country of birth.

In Europe whilst the identity is noted at birth officially by the government, the consequence is no/little falsification. Also, one can move around the country and the National Healthcare System (as well as nearly-free post-secondary schooling) are available wherever one goes regardless of the "state" in which they reside.

I find these are key-attributes to a decent life-style - free healthcare and a tertiary-level education in this brave new world of ours birthed by the Internet ...
 
TurtleDude said:
why do you care about our court? I suspect that no one, who is an American citizen, on this board, cares about how France picks its highest court
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Well, you should. This is a Debate Forum and subjects have a pro-and-con. Which is why it exists!

Just because you don't like someone's statement does not mean that claiming it as defective and walking away is sufficient. You have to present a well thought-out argument as "rebuttal".

That's debate ... !
 
Lafayette said:
Well, you should. This is a Debate Forum and subjects have a pro-and-con. Which is why it exists!

Just because you don't like someone's statement does not mean that claiming it as defective and walking away is sufficient. You have to present a well thought-out argument as "rebuttal".

That's debate ... !
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Problem is, you are not debating.

Your OP starts out with a blanket diminutive (Republicants") followed by an assertion that it is the Republicans who are attempting to "manipulate" the Court.

Now in our history there have been attempts to change the number of members for purely political reasons. But most recently it was Franklin D. Roosevelt, a DEMOCRAT who didn't want an "uncooperative" SCOTUS ruling against his Socialist New Deal programs.

Now again we see it is the Democrats seeking to "pack the SCOTUS" for exactly the same political reasons, i.e. they want a rubber stamp guaranteeing whatever changes they make will not be challengeable or deemed Unconstitutional.

Now the problem with YOUR input is that you have your own confirmation biases, and if you are not an American expatriate, then you lack of experience in our cultural beliefs and socio-economic problems. Just as i have no such knowledge and experience with yours.

Members will note that I rarely comment about foreign nations unless I have had personal experience residing there, or the issue is one of AMERUCAN foreign policy interests.
 
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