Except for the Dunblane massacre, the gun crime rate was very low before such legislation was passed so the legislation did nothing to lower it.
Where's your evidence of that
There has been one mass shooting since 1996 in the UK...that's pretty successful wouldn't you say ?
How many mass shootings have the USA in the past 24 years ?
so then why do you want to ban guns?
To prevent shootings in general (including suicides) & mass shootings in particular
If they did anything illegal I would seize them.
Are you saying they could refuse to "learn" about safety and that you'd only seize guns if there was illegal action ?
You yourself have talked about how the GED is higher per capita in Switzerland than in the USA, thus it is more equally distributed.
It's GDP (GED is something you get when you leave school). A higher average GDP does NOT mean more people are closer to that average
And no communists countries don't have equal wealth distribution, at least not any of the communist countries this world has seen....
Again where's your evidence of this
You continually make claims with no evidence
Im pointing out how a ban on guns would not bring the results you want as a ban on drugs has not produced such results...
That is fallacious reasoning
So a ban on alcohol/drugs didn't/isn't working to well
Guess what a ban on drugs in the USA peer countries isn't working well. No other developed country has tried it but I doubt if an alcohol ban in the UK or any peer country would work.
However, guns are different, gun control has worked in every (developed) country that's tried it
(the gun control tried in the USA has been very minor - like magazine capacity. So called gun bans are half measures just banning new sales)
What insurance would be cheaper? And I've yet to see the dead body of a gunshot victim.
Like liability insurance if you're operating a bar/restaurant/concert hall
"Gun violence in America exacts a significant toll on our society in both human and economic terms. The economic cost of firearms directly affects the financial outcomes of insurers and taxpayers."
Firearm Risk: An Insurance Perspective | The Actuary Magazine
Many of the survivors of Paddock's shooting did
But a law that bans guns infringes on the rights of good people, a law that bans rape doesn't.
Straw man
A law that bans mass shooting doesn't infringe any rights either
How do laws that prohibit rape and robbery make it easier for rapists and robbers to do such stuff?
Another straw man
The laws don't make it easier, their guns make it easier
That depends, a person on drugs can act in ways that can be dangerous to those around him, but that's a discussion for the war on drugs folder.
Deflection
You admit to the principal of banning things for the personal good. And that government can determine what you possess
I don't see the point in discussing stuff that you pull in from left field.
You brought up victimless crime, I'm showing you that the US government is no stranger to it
Gun control is preventative in nature. Like laws making people obey a curfew and social distancing in the current COVID-19 pandemic
It would only remove them from some criminals as you say so yourself, not all criminals...
Proponents of gun control will admit that you will never eradicate ALL guns from society, but the likelihood that a significant number would be
When seconds matter the police are minutes away
Active shooters are normally stopped by law enforcement. And yes that is usually several minutes away. Very occasionally it is stopped by an armed member of the public
I already answered that in another post in another thread.
No you didn't in neither case was either man convicted of a mass shooter and then go on to commit another
(indeed in your first example, the man never committed any mass shootings)
Watch the news, the vast majority of the shootings you see in the news happen in gun free zones
Perhaps the high profile shooting that make national news but there was more than one mass shooting per day in 2019
So again, where is your evidence ?
Some schools have that as a matter of fact
So is it so much of a a stretch that school vehicles will end up being armored ?
The USA has a huge huge gun culture, Britain doesn't and never did
So what - we are talking about how gun owners would react
Let me phrase it more precisely: What about US culture would make US gun owners react more differently that UK gun owners, with regard to a gun ban ?
[quore]Yes I admit I was starting to sound a bit like vegas giants when I made such a comment.[/QUOTE]
Depending on the sport, the Giants play in NY (technically in NJ) or San Francisco.
