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Mollie Hemingway: What happened during the 2020 election must be investigated and discussed

What is needed is personal responsibility and actually people going to the polls or qualifying for an Absentee Ballot. There is no justification for the massive amount of mail in ballots with signature verification not occurring.

I can understand your point on personal responsibility. Your statement about signature verification not occurring is mostly a talking point. A talking point written by people who have not a clue of the process of signature verification of ballots.

One only has to read Dr. Shiva report which Senator Fann had taxpayers pay $50k for. It is full of errors and misinformation. His lack of knowledge was admitted.
 
I can understand your point on personal responsibility. Your statement about signature verification not occurring is mostly a talking point. A talking point written by people who have not a clue of the process of signature verification of ballots.

One only has to read Dr. Shiva report which Senator Fann had taxpayers pay $50k for. It is full of errors and misinformation. His lack of knowledge was admitted.
Right, anything that you disagree with is a talking point that has to be dismissed, how liberal of you. Keep ignoring the content of the OP when Bush was selected not elected and all the millions spent on Russia putting Trump in the WH. There was no election integrity during this election and regardless of what you want to believe only voter ID laws, personal responsibility meaning voting in person or voting with an official Absentee ballot is going to assure safe and fair elections, why too much money involved and too easy of voter manipulation and failed chain of custody and accuracy on mail in ballots.
 
Right, anything that you disagree with is a talking point that has to be dismissed, how liberal of you. Keep ignoring the content of the OP when Bush was selected not elected and all the millions spent on Russia putting Trump in the WH. There was no election integrity during this election and regardless of what you want to believe only voter ID laws, personal responsibility meaning voting in person or voting with an official Absentee ballot is going to assure safe and fair elections, why too much money involved and too easy of voter manipulation and failed chain of custody and accuracy on mail in ballots.
right. anyone who disagrees with you is a "liberal" according to you.

You are the one who brought up the votes Trump received.
 
right. anyone who disagrees with you is a "liberal" according to you.

You are the one who brought up the votes Trump received.
right. anyone who disagrees with you is a "liberal" according to you.

You are the one who brought up the votes Trump received.
No, the OP is spot on and the issue remains creating professional, fair, and legal election results, removing any issue that could cause fraud and no excuse mail in ballots are part of that. Elections are supposed to be private events and mail in ballots aren't part of that privacy nor part of what really this country is all about, a true representative democracy. Covid was weaponized, you know it and I know it, voting in person prevents voter fraud, voting by mail interjects the possibility of voter fraud, that is reality. Sending ballots to all registered voters in 8 states also creates the opportunity for fraud
 
No, the OP is spot on and the issue remains creating professional, fair, and legal election results, removing any issue that could cause fraud and no excuse mail in ballots are part of that. Elections are supposed to be private events and mail in ballots aren't part of that privacy nor part of what really this country is all about, a true representative democracy. Covid was weaponized, you know it and I know it, voting in person prevents voter fraud, voting by mail interjects the possibility of voter fraud, that is reality. Sending ballots to all registered voters in 8 states also creates the opportunity for fraud
Do you believe there was enough fraud in 2020 to unfairly give the election to Biden?
 
Do you believe there was enough fraud in 2020 to unfairly give the election to Biden?
Yep, sure do, he actually won the election by about 175,000 votes from 5 states giving him the 270 Electoral college votes. Mail in ballots received and counted after the polls closed all in major Democratic Cities around the country, Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Las Vegas, and Atlanta and throw in Madison.
 
Yep, sure do, he actually won the election by about 175,000 votes from 5 states giving him the 270 Electoral college votes. Mail in ballots received and counted after the polls closed all in major Democratic Cities around the country, Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Las Vegas, and Atlanta and throw in Madison.

Okay, thanks
 
What is needed is personal responsibility and actually people going to the polls or qualifying for an Absentee Ballot. There is no justification for the massive amount of mail in ballots with signature verification not occurring.


When did states start doing signature verification?
No, the OP is spot on and the issue remains creating professional, fair, and legal election results, removing any issue that could cause fraud and no excuse mail in ballots are part of that. Elections are supposed to be private events and mail in ballots aren't part of that privacy nor part of what really this country is all about, a true representative democracy. Covid was weaponized, you know it and I know it, voting in person prevents voter fraud, voting by mail interjects the possibility of voter fraud, that is reality. Sending ballots to all registered voters in 8 states also creates the opportunity for fraud


Since when did elections become private events?

A true representative democracy would have high voter participation as its primary goal.
 
If there was enough fraud to affect the outcome of the election, I'm just curious how Team Trump (meaning Trump himself, his legal team, and his allies) failed to provide evidence sufficient to convince state and federal judges in over 50 lawsuits to convince them?

Unless...everyone not on Team Trump is in cahoots with the Deep State to deny Trump a second term and therefore the freeberty Americans deserve?

 
I'm just curious how Team Trump (meaning Trump himself, his legal team, and his allies) failed to provide evidence sufficient to convince state and federal judges in over 50 lawsuits to convince them?
Rudy himself under oath said he never independently verified his " evidence " and got most of it from social media.
 
When did states start doing signature verification?



Since when did elections become private events?

A true representative democracy would have high voter participation as its primary goal.


Got it, you have no problem with a mail in ballot being cast by a non registered voter. You ever going to answer why you want TX to turn blue? Where is the personal gain and benefit to you and your family? You still part of the 38% that support Biden today.

There is no question that the no excuse mail in ballots defeated Trump and elected the incompetent in the WH today and there is no question that since you and the left got what you wanted the OP is to be ignored. That isn't what made this country great, one power hungry party that destroys everyone who gets in their way, weaponized Covid and created the fraudulent election we had in 2020
 
Rudy himself under oath said he never independently verified his " evidence " and got most of it from social media.
Does it really matter? You ever going to explain to us how you assure integrity and chain of custody accuracy with mail in ballots
 
Got it, you have no problem with a mail in ballot being cast by a non registered voter. You ever going to answer why you want TX to turn blue? Where is the personal gain and benefit to you and your family? You still part of the 38% that support Biden today.

There is no question that the no excuse mail in ballots defeated Trump and elected the incompetent in the WH today and there is no question that since you and the left got what you wanted the OP is to be ignored. That isn't what made this country great, one power hungry party that destroys everyone who gets in their way, weaponized Covid and created the fraudulent election we had in 2020

You seem to make up excuse after excuse to make it hard for people to vote. Are you afraid of what would happen to the GQP if turnout approached 90%?

You don’t really want a representative democracy.
 
Does it really matter? You ever going to explain to us how you assure integrity and chain of custody accuracy with mail in ballots
Are you concerned with integrity and chain of custody for overseas voters?
 
Right, anything that you disagree with is a talking point that has to be dismissed, how liberal of you. Keep ignoring the content of the OP when Bush was selected not elected and all the millions spent on Russia putting Trump in the WH. There was no election integrity during this election and regardless of what you want to believe only voter ID laws, personal responsibility meaning voting in person or voting with an official Absentee ballot is going to assure safe and fair elections, why too much money involved and too easy of voter manipulation and failed chain of custody and accuracy on mail in ballots.

To state that there was "no election integrity during this election" is absolutely false. Arizona here has had no-excuse mail-in voting since the early 1990s. In 2019, AZ Governor Ducey signed a bill expanding voter ID in this state that wasn't in effect during the 2016 Presidential election, but it was in effect during the 2020 Presidential election here. Link
 



Outstanding opinion piece raising some very valid questions about the 2020 elections and future elections at the national level, as there was this



Enjoy and look forward to the partisan leftwing defense of the 2020 elections.
The stuff Zuckerberg did that she described is the kind of thing that I've mentioned before. If you get the right unelected people in positions of power in the right places you can control election outcomes (and damn near everything else). When you've done that it's almost impossible to uncover malfeasance.
Those same people in the same positions are still in place for the next election.
And there's no excuse for keeping those alleged COVID driven election laws in place.
 
Does it really matter?
Yes. it really matters. You're concerned about the integrity of mail in balloting, and yet there have been no lawsuits or investigations that have proved they are so compromised that it affected the outcome of the 2020 election.

Why are you convinced Trump was cheated, when his own legal team could not provide sufficient evidence (i.e. ANY evidence) that he was?
 
The stuff Zuckerberg did that she described is the kind of thing that I've mentioned before. If you get the right unelected people in positions of power in the right places you can control election outcomes (and damn near everything else). When you've done that it's almost impossible to uncover malfeasance.
Those same people in the same positions are still in place for the next election.
And there's no excuse for keeping those alleged COVID driven election laws in place.
Why should a state need an excuse?
 
Three possibilities:

1) Trump's legal team (and everyone allied with him) were so incompetent that they couldn't put together a single convincing case that election fraud occurred to a degree that it changed the outcome, despite their claims of "overwhelming" evidence.

2) The Deep State is so deep that over 50 state and federal judges ruling on over 50 Trump Team lawsuits conspired to keep Trump from a second term.

3) There was insufficient evidence that election fraud existed to a degree that it affected the outcome.
 
You ever going to explain to us how you assure integrity and chain of custody accuracy with mail in ballots
How about doing it the way Colorado does?
 
You seem to make up excuse after excuse to make it hard for people to vote. Are you afraid of what would happen to the GQP if turnout approached 90%?

You don’t really want a representative democracy.
Seems pretty easy for me, early voting, election day, and official absentee ballots. You seem to want someone to actually bring the ballots to your door, when did you develop this entitlement mentality
 
To state that there was "no election integrity during this election" is absolutely false. Arizona here has had no-excuse mail-in voting since the early 1990s. In 2019, AZ Governor Ducey signed a bill expanding voter ID in this state that wasn't in effect during the 2016 Presidential election, but it was in effect during the 2020 Presidential election here. Link
Doesn't make it right, Trump lost Arizona by 10,000 votes all no excuse mail in ballots. I understand completely the liberal attitude always get someone else to do something for you as there is no such thing as personal responsibility. You can't get to the polls for early voting, on election day, or qualify for an official absentee ballot, you don't deserve to vote
 
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