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Mixed messaging from NATO.

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Not sure if this is the correct place for this, but I was hoping someone in the region could weigh in on this ostensibly mixed-messaging from NATO.




Also, how are Belarus and Serbia remotely comparable? One is ostensibly part of the Western Balkans, and has had an on-again-off-again relationship with the West, with an entirely different culture and an even further different geopolitical situation from Belarus, and the other is in Northeastern Europe sharing a land border with the Baltics and Russia and a maritime border with Scandinavia (not to mention it is unapologetically totalitarian, whereas Serbia's government is more cryptic and Machiavellian in what is clearly a balancing act between East and West, Belarus being a hardcore Russian ally. Does NATO not realize that Belarus and Russia essentially share an economy, are partners in more international organizations than they are not, unlike Serbia?) Further, where does it get this idea that it is suddenly smart to begin building military relations with Russia's closest military ally? Or was the Russian threat overblown this entire time? You'd think NATO would be a bit more cautious than this, rather than whiplash-speed pivoting back and forth between overtly calling for direct hard power intervention to overthrow Lukashanko like Trump tried to do with Maduro in Venezuela, and calling for a military alliance with Belarus? What is going on here?
 
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Not sure if this is the correct place for this, but I was hoping someone in the region could weigh in on this ostensibly mixed-messaging from NATO.




Also, how are Belarus and Serbia remotely comparable? One is ostensibly part of the Western Balkans, and has had an on-again-off-again relationship with the West, with an entirely different culture and an even further different geopolitical situation from Belarus, and the other is in Northeastern Europe sharing a land border with the Baltics and Russia and a maritime border with Scandinavia (not to mention it is unapologetically totalitarian, whereas Serbia's government is more cryptic and Machiavellian in what is clearly a balancing act between East and West, Belarus being a hardcore Russian ally. Does NATO not realize that Belarus and Russia essentially share an economy, are partners in more international organizations than they are not, unlike Serbia?) Further, where does it get this idea that it is suddenly smart to begin building military relations with Russia's closest military ally? Or was the Russian threat overblown this entire time? You'd think NATO would be a bit more cautious than this, rather than whiplash-speed pivoting back and forth between overtly calling for direct hard power intervention to overthrow Lukashanko like Trump tried to do with Maduro in Venezuela, and calling for a military alliance with Belarus? What is going on here?
First of all: Belarus does not have any maritime border. It's completely landlocked.

Second: Not the first time this happens. Lukashenka has never been shy to flirt with the West, just to see how much he gets away with before Moscow tightens his leash. Luka has always played a game where he tries to be as autonomous as possible from Moscow, while still not being so autonomous Putin breaks with him (which he can't afford. Putin is what keeps him in power).
 
First of all: Belarus does not have any maritime border. It's completely landlocked.

Maybe Belarus wants to acquire a maritime border now. You think of that?
 
Maybe Belarus wants to acquire a maritime border now. You think of that?
Indeed, was thinking of the Byelorussian SSR, which I'm sure Lukashenko would exploit as a romanticist nazbol posturing if he needed it to maintain his power and rally the organs of the state and nationalist forces against the opposition (especially if he caught wind that the United States was directly supporting it).
 
If Lukashenko cut down on his army's vodka rations perhaps he'd get better results from them.
 
Britain will increase its nuclear arsenal, writes the Guardian.
Boris Johnson plans to increase the number of warheads by 40% (from 180 to 260).
I am sure that the "free world" will indignantly impose sanctions against the island immediately!
And human rights activists off course will condemn Johnson for militarizing Europe.
 
Not sure if this is the correct place for this, but I was hoping someone in the region could weigh in on this ostensibly mixed-messaging from NATO.




Also, how are Belarus and Serbia remotely comparable? One is ostensibly part of the Western Balkans, and has had an on-again-off-again relationship with the West, with an entirely different culture and an even further different geopolitical situation from Belarus, and the other is in Northeastern Europe sharing a land border with the Baltics and Russia and a maritime border with Scandinavia (not to mention it is unapologetically totalitarian, whereas Serbia's government is more cryptic and Machiavellian in what is clearly a balancing act between East and West, Belarus being a hardcore Russian ally. Does NATO not realize that Belarus and Russia essentially share an economy, are partners in more international organizations than they are not, unlike Serbia?) Further, where does it get this idea that it is suddenly smart to begin building military relations with Russia's closest military ally? Or was the Russian threat overblown this entire time? You'd think NATO would be a bit more cautious than this, rather than whiplash-speed pivoting back and forth between overtly calling for direct hard power intervention to overthrow Lukashanko like Trump tried to do with Maduro in Venezuela, and calling for a military alliance with Belarus? What is going on here?
edition;
" Lukasenka being a hardcore Moscow ally. (for cash only) " Belarus hates Muscovite empire which supports , Belarusian despot with cash and political support. once Luka is our, Belarus returns home (Europe) in 1 day
Putin throws $1.5 billion lifeline to embattled Belarus leader ...
www.reuters.com › article › belarus-election-russia-int-i...


202012eca_belarus_wr.jpg


15 Sep 2020 — Russian President Vladimir Putin bestowed a $1.5 billion loan on ... when asked if the Belarusian leader had not lost his legitimacy as a result ...



Belarus poll gives Putin a choice of nightmares - Asia Times
asiatimes.com › 2020/08 › belarus-poll-gives-putin-a-c...



4 Aug 2020 — Russian President Vladimir Putin is facing a lose-lose situation in ... And with a rising popularity driven as much by popular discontent as ...
 
First of all: Belarus does not have any maritime border...
Moscow propaganda promotes this narrative, Belarusians were the majority in Vinia region in first part of 20c., , but LR got Vinia from Koba, they say its time for Belarus get Vinia back , Belarusians are smart enough to not swallow this imperial cra&
 
edition;
" Lukasenka being a hardcore Moscow ally. (for cash only) " Belarus hates Muscovite empire which supports , Belarusian despot with cash and political support. once Luka is our, Belarus returns home (Europe) in 1 day
Putin throws $1.5 billion lifeline to embattled Belarus leader ...
www.reuters.com › article › belarus-election-russia-int-i...


15 Sep 2020 — Russian President Vladimir Putin bestowed a $1.5 billion loan on ... when asked if the Belarusian leader had not lost his legitimacy as a result ...

Belarus poll gives Putin a choice of nightmares - Asia Times
asiatimes.com › 2020/08 › belarus-poll-gives-putin-a-c...



4 Aug 2020 — Russian President Vladimir Putin is facing a lose-lose situation in ... And with a rising popularity driven as much by popular discontent as ...

There is no "Muscovite empire" to hate.
 
Moscow propaganda promotes this narrative, Belarusians were the majority in Vinia region in first part of 20c., , but LR got Vinia from Koba, they say its time for Belarus get Vinia back , Belarusians are smart enough to not swallow this imperial cra&
Do you even know geography. My guess is you are talking about the historically contested Vilna region (Poland, Lithuania and the USSR all fought each other over this region in the early 20s, a conflict Poland at that point won), where Lithuania's current capital is. That region is not coastal.
 
Do you even know geography. My guess is you are talking about the historically contested Vilna region (Poland, Lithuania and the USSR all fought each other over this region in the early 20s, a conflict Poland at that point won), where Lithuania's current capital is. That region is not coastal.

Litwin doesn't do geography.
 
Moscow propaganda promotes this narrative, Belarusians were the majority in Vinia region in first part of 20c., , but LR got Vinia from Koba, they say its time for Belarus get Vinia back , Belarusians are smart enough to not swallow this imperial cra&


Litwin...

Will you post another FANTASY map "proving" your point?
 
Jesus what is with the epidemic of people being unable to admit they were wrong? It's very simple, "Oops, my bad, was thinking of _________" or even "Oh, nevermind, I was wrong" -tears out hair-
 
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