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MIT Prof Kausel-Structures Like WTC don't Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd2[W:242]

Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

quote where he said: "the towers WOULD NOT tip over"

In addition, the towers did not fail from the bottom up, but from the top down. For a portion of the tower to roll to either side, it must first acquire angular momentum, which can only occur if the structure can pivot long enough about a stable plane (e.g. the stump in a tree). However, the forces concentrated near the pivoting area would have been so large that the columns and beams in the vicinity of that area would simply have crushed and offered no serious support permitting rolling. Also, both building sections above the crash site were not tall enough to significantly activate an inverted pendulum effect. Thus, the upper part could do nothing but simply fall down onto the lower part, crushing it. While photographic evidence shows the upper part of the South Tower to be inclined just as it began to collapse, it may not necessarily have rolled to the side, but instead fallen down onto the lower floors in a tilted position. (A careful review of collapse videos and additional photos should help clarify this contention.) Indirect evidence points to minimal vertical resistance to telescoping or pancaking of either tower: the duration of the collapses was nearly the same as that of an object in free fall, while any serious resistance would have slowed down the collapse. In essence then, the towers did not collapse like trees because the structures, despite their strength, were too fragile to sustain such motions.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

He is specifically saying the towers WOULD NOT tip over. Clearly and concisely.


its your claim again, still waiting for your quote since I read it and did not see anything like that.

yes please dont move the goal posts before you prove your claim.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

In addition, the towers did not fail from the bottom up, but from the top down. For a portion of the tower to roll to either side, it must first acquire angular momentum, which can only occur if the structure can pivot long enough about a stable plane (e.g. the stump in a tree). However, the forces concentrated near the pivoting area would have been so large that the columns and beams in the vicinity of that area would simply have crushed and offered no serious support permitting rolling. Also, both building sections above the crash site were not tall enough to significantly activate an inverted pendulum effect. Thus, the upper part could do nothing but simply fall down onto the lower part, crushing it. While photographic evidence shows the upper part of the South Tower to be inclined just as it began to collapse, it may not necessarily have rolled to the side, but instead fallen down onto the lower floors in a tilted position. (A careful review of collapse videos and additional photos should help clarify this contention.) Indirect evidence points to minimal vertical resistance to telescoping or pancaking of either tower: the duration of the collapses was nearly the same as that of an object in free fall, while any serious resistance would have slowed down the collapse. In essence then, the towers did not collapse like trees because the structures, despite their strength, were too fragile to sustain such motions.

nope He is NOT specifically saying the towers WOULD NOT tip over.

His demonstration however proves they had to tip over unless something other forces were at work here.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

when in a court battle the claim has to match the evidence, his explanation does not match the evidence he provided in his demonstration which tipped over precisely as I expected it would
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

In essence then, the towers did not collapse like trees because the structures, despite their strength, were too fragile to sustain such motions.
Fragile? You need to see a construction video of the WTCs. They were not fragile.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Fragile? You need to see a construction video of the WTCs. They were not fragile.

did I miss that? Kausel said that? If he did being a prof at MIT he should be sued into the next century!
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

did I miss that? Kausel said that? If he did being a prof at MIT he should be sued into the next century!
Yup. Fragile.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Yup. Fragile.

for an MIT prof to use drama verbiage pretty much tells the story. His demonstration clearly shows that columns tip when they buckle. Causes big problems to the 'simple' explanations debunkers are using for the footprint style collapses.

Maybe they can get some traction with one of the other issues.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

its your claim again, still waiting for your quote since I read it and did not see anything like that.

yes please dont move the goal posts before you prove your claim.

You have to read and comprehend.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

nope He is NOT specifically saying the towers WOULD NOT tip over.

His demonstration however proves they had to tip over unless something other forces were at work here.

Nope, you haven't comprehended what is written.

Please reread.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Noted.

The OP does not provide a source to the quotes.
The OP does not provide a source to the unedited vid. Instead uses photobuckets.

Not worth the time to respond further.

Agreed. A poorly constructed OP that was easily trounced by Fled. Nothing further to see here.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Agreed. A poorly constructed OP that was easily trounced by Fled. Nothing further to see here.

trounced? didnt even scuff the paint.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Nope, you haven't comprehended what is written.

Please reread.

you havent comprehended what was SEEN.

No physics or engineering background I presume
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Duplicate thread. Do not indulge the spam
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

No, he murdered the OP by hanging, drawing and quartering and left the clutch for the crows.

thats a over the top vivid imagination since the demonstration shows how failing columns tip over LOL




get some glasses and take a look
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

thats a over the top vivid imagination since the demonstration shows how failing columns tip over LOL




get some glasses and take a look

So, what did he say was the CAUSE OF THE COLLOPSE?
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

So, what did he say was the CAUSE OF THE COLLOPSE?

I asked koko for the source of the vid he saved to photobucket. He has yet to provide the information.

It is interesting the OP didn't provide one source link so what was posted could be verified.

I see a conspiracy in that.:mrgreen:
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

I asked koko for the source of the vid he saved to photobucket. He has yet to provide the information.

It is interesting the OP didn't provide one source link so what was posted could be verified.

I see a conspiracy in that.:mrgreen:

isnt it obvious mike? MIT
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

So, what did he say was the CAUSE OF THE COLLOPSE?

Ok so then you are denying that his model tipped over is that it? I mean even though we can see it tipping over..........
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

I asked koko for the source of the vid he saved to photobucket. He has yet to provide the information.

It is interesting the OP didn't provide one source link so what was posted could be verified.

I see a conspiracy in that.:mrgreen:

And you maybe right, after all, what better way to stall posts that destroy a weak OP by making those who wish to challenge if chase around looking for sources? A while ago, a truther on another site admitted to this tactic in order to frustrate those who repeatedly shot down his weak evidence-he thought it was funny.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

And you maybe right, after all, what better way to stall posts that destroy a weak OP by making those who wish to challenge if chase around looking for sources? A while ago, a truther on another site admitted to this tactic in order to frustrate those who repeatedly shot down his weak evidence-he thought it was funny.

Typical nonsense drivel.

The usual when debunkers have no rebuttal they pretend they have an argument.

See the clip shows how the columns tip over and do not fall straight down. (like the wtc)

But then only a Phd (and truthers) know what that means. :mrgreen:

omg these people are hilarious when trapped.
 
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Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Typical nonsense drivel.

The usual when debunkers have no rebuttal they pretend they have an argument.

See the clip shows how the columns tip over and do not fall straight down. (like the wtc)

But then only a Phd (and truthers) know what that means. :mrgreen:

omg these people are hilarious when trapped.

What did the prof say caused the collapses?

And what did he say about the collapse itself?
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Why are we still indulging Koko in this time-wasting excercise? The OP is a strawman and the Jenga model his "expert" has created is ridiculous.
 
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