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Milwaukee County Judge Dugan indicted, grand jury meets Tuesday

you do know that judges there have immunity if they are acting in their official capacity....right?
As pointed out here, several times, that's not an issue. The exception potentially being that she concealed that she adjourned her own case from the prosecution, victims, and witnesses.

The federal case was not in her court, or even her jurisdiction. Helping someone evade arrest isn't a part of her judicial role.
 
As pointed out here, several times, that's not an issue. The exception potentially being that she concealed that she adjourned her own case from the prosecution, victims, and witnesses.

The federal case was not in her court, or even her jurisdiction. Helping someone evade arrest isn't a part of her judicial role.
She had no choice...if he was arrested by the feds how can he be prosecuted?
 
If she has immunity they are wasting time...she was on the bench, acting in her official capacity when she demanded a warrant from ICE for a person in court, in front of her for a hearing.
Incorrect. She went in the hallway and berated the agents, not even asking for the warrant itself. Nothing was asked from her, and they were going out of their way to avoid interfering in her court. Her domestic battery case had nothing to do with the federal warrant.
 
I disagree. I expect it to come up in her defense and purely from a judicial standpoint. It won't be partisan or emotional-based, [deflection removed]
ROFLOL. Again, you keep bringing up Trump. I'm focused on the case of former Judge Dugan.

Her defense may try to raise the issue, and the only reason to do so is to appeal to emotions and anti-Trump sentiment. The judge should properly exclude any such evidence.
 
Incorrect. She went in the hallway and berated the agents, not even asking for the warrant itself. Nothing was asked from her, and they were going out of their way to avoid interfering in her court. Her domestic battery case had nothing to do with the federal warrant.
She was in the courthouse in her judge attire, correct....going into the hallway doesn't mean she is no longer acting as a judge...she is inside the courthouse within hours of the court being open for session.

A judge has every right to demand a warrant from agents inside the courthouse.
 
ROFLOL. Again, you keep bringing up Trump. I'm focused on the case of former Judge Dugan.

Her defense may try to raise the issue, and the only reason to do so is to appeal to emotions and anti-Trump sentiment. The judge should properly exclude any such evidence.
Case in point.
 
She had no choice...if he was arrested by the feds how can he be prosecuted?
She had no choice but to commit crimes and tank her own case? Really?

This isn't uncommon. The court would work with the federal detention center to present him for trial. Assuming he's convicted, he would serve his time and then be re-deported.
 
ROFLOL. Again, you keep bringing up Trump. I'm focused on the case of former Judge Dugan.

Her defense may try to raise the issue, and the only reason to do so is to appeal to emotions and anti-Trump sentiment. The judge should properly exclude any such evidence.
no, it isn't an appeal to emotions...demanding a warrant, being a judge subject to immunity are facts, not emotional arguments...demanding a warrant is not obstruction of justice..its a Constitutional right.
 
She had no choice but to commit crimes and tank her own case? Really?

This isn't uncommon. The court would work with the federal detention center to present him for trial. Assuming he's convicted, he would serve his time and then be re-deported.
demanding a warrant is committing a crime?
 
no, it isn't an appeal to emotions...demanding a warrant, being a judge subject to immunity are facts, not emotional arguments...demanding a warrant is not obstruction of justice..its a Constitutional right.
You aren't following the conversation. Bringing up things like the AEA, Trump, deportations to El Salvador, and 'government overreach' in this case is an appeal to emotions. These have zero relevance to this case.

demanding a warrant is committing a crime?
Please read the charging document. 1) she didn't demand a warrant, and 2) that wasn't the issue here.
 
You aren't following the conversation. Bringing up things like the AEA, Trump, deportations to El Salvador, and 'government overreach' in this case is an appeal to emotions. These have zero relevance to this case.


Please read the charging document. 1) she didn't demand a warrant, and 2) that wasn't the issue here.
No, it isn't...they are facts that are relevant to this case.
 
If she has immunity they are wasting time...she was on the bench, acting in her official capacity when she demanded a warrant from ICE for a person in court, in front of her for a hearing.
We shall see. A court will decide. ;)
 
Yes, you keep proving my point. Good luck to you.
Thanks. I didn't realize your point was that anything said about the legal ramifications related to the President's actions and his administration would be construed as a direct attack on Trump due to emotion/partisanship, and you would immediately jump to that being the only reason it could be brought up. It's unfortunate that discussions of legal consequences are immediately rejected as political attacks, rather than being assessed objectively for what they actually represent.
 
yeah and you will be big mad if they determine she is immune.
Big made? Nah….I won’t big bad,….and I won’t “be made” either. I am open to allowing the courts to do their thing. I assume you are as well?
 
She was in the courthouse in her judge attire, correct....going into the hallway doesn't mean she is no longer acting as a judge...she is inside the courthouse within hours of the court being open for session.
Again, former judge Dugan didn't demand a warrant. She asked if they had one, then the type, and created a scene about it.

Judicial immunity refers to acts done in an official capacity, in her role as a judge. Wearing a robe or being in a courthouse isn't the issue.

The federal warrant wasn't in her courtroom or jurisdiction. Confronting agents in the hallway, trying to mislead them, creating a show that the case is pending, and sneaking a wanted person out through a staff area isn't in her duties as a judge.

A judge has every right to demand a warrant from agents inside the courthouse.
Not really, but I'm sure the agents would have shown it to her if she asked to see it. She wasn't the subject of the warrant. Nothing was being asked of her. Agents had already cleared it with courthouse staff, and were waiting to arrest him after the hearing. She's not a party to the warrant.

They did, however, return the next day with a judicial warrant which they did show to her.
 
Big made? Nah….I won’t big bad,….and I won’t “be made” either. I am open to allowing the courts to do their thing. I assume you are as well?
you may want to read my post again...clearly you did not read it correctly...I said big mad. not made
 
Making the boarder crisis.

Don't give a shit if he pretended to do his job if the amount of failure made it moot.

Biden went out of his way to make sure they weren't stopped.
How is adhering to the Refugee Act of 1980 and three ratified treaties on refugees - even while deporting the unworthy - going out of one’s way “to make sure they weren’t stopped?” I just checked, and removals (apprehensions and deportations) under Biden were more in any president’s single term since George W Bush, according to the Migration Policy Institute, BBC, and NYTimes.
 
Again, former judge Dugan didn't demand a warrant. She asked if they had one, then the type, and created a scene about it.

Judicial immunity refers to acts done in an official capacity, in her role as a judge. Wearing a robe or being in a courthouse isn't the issue.

The federal warrant wasn't in her courtroom or jurisdiction. Confronting agents in the hallway, trying to mislead them, creating a show that the case is pending, and sneaking a wanted person out through a staff area isn't in her duties as a judge.


Not really, but I'm sure the agents would have shown it to her if she asked to see it. She wasn't the subject of the warrant. Nothing was being asked of her. Agents had already cleared it with courthouse staff, and were waiting to arrest him after the hearing. She's not a party to the warrant.

They did, however, return the next day with a judicial warrant which they did show to her.
because they didn't have a legal warrant...a warrant must be signed by a judge....theirs was not.
 
you may want to read my post again...clearly you did not read it correctly...I said big mad. not made
It’s all good Clara. We both want the court to do the right thing…correct?
 
Again, former judge Dugan didn't demand a warrant. She asked if they had one, then the type, and created a scene about it.

Judicial immunity refers to acts done in an official capacity, in her role as a judge. Wearing a robe or being in a courthouse isn't the issue.

The federal warrant wasn't in her courtroom or jurisdiction. Confronting agents in the hallway, trying to mislead them, creating a show that the case is pending, and sneaking a wanted person out through a staff area isn't in her duties as a judge.


Not really, but I'm sure the agents would have shown it to her if she asked to see it. She wasn't the subject of the warrant. Nothing was being asked of her. Agents had already cleared it with courthouse staff, and were waiting to arrest him after the hearing. She's not a party to the warrant.

They did, however, return the next day with a judicial warrant which they did show to her.
They showed a paper that is administrative and not a legal warrant.
 
Thanks. I didn't realize your point was that anything said about the legal ramifications related to the President's actions and his administration would be construed as a direct attack on Trump due to emotion/partisanship, and you would immediately jump to that being the only reason it could be brought up. It's unfortunate that discussions of legal consequences are immediately rejected as political attacks, rather than being assessed objectively for what they actually represent.
Again - that has zero to do with this case. Why would a court allow something politically charged and irrelevant to compromise a case in their courtroom?
 
Again - that has zero to do with this case. Why would a court allow something politically charged and irrelevant to compromise a case in their courtroom?
I would agree the subject is politically charged, but political tension doesn’t automatically negate legal relevance. Courts routinely assess the broader legal framework in cases where executive authority, precedent, and judicial discretion intersect.
 
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