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Mike Pence was livid 'after all the things I've done' for Trump, according to Oklahoma senator who spoke with the VP

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Let me see if I understand correctly. It took Pence four years to learn that Trump loyalty flows in only one direction. Unless of course you can tie him to crimes. Then you receive a pardon.
 
Mashmont said:
Pence shouldn't have certified a fraudulent election. I wouldn't have.
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Still going with that QAnon conspiracy theory nonsense are you?
 
Mashmont said:
Pence shouldn't have certified a fraudulent election. I wouldn't have.
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When you can show us to one, maybe we can address that.

Otherwise, to steal a line from one my favorite movies...."Have fun storming the castle!"
 
Mashmont said:
Pence shouldn't have certified a fraudulent election. I wouldn't have.
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He took an oath to uphold the Constitution. It's part of his constitutional duty.

I guess Pence respects the Constitution and you don't.
 
Honestly, I sympathize with him. You get a chance at VP and even make it there. You support the man who got you there even when it's very hard. Then, after years of sacrifice, you get a final dagger in the back when he costs you the election.
 
Keridan said:
Honestly, I sympathize with him. You get a chance at VP and even make it there. You support the man who got you there even when it's very hard. Then, after years of sacrifice, you get a final dagger in the back when he costs you the election.
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It's no one's constitutional duty to uphold a fraudulent election. In fact it's their duty to oppose it. That's what I would have done.
 
Keridan said:
Honestly, I sympathize with him. You get a chance at VP and even make it there. You support the man who got you there even when it's very hard. Then, after years of sacrifice, you get a final dagger in the back when he costs you the election.
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Yeah, I've got a little sympathy for Pence and also for Sessions.
They both took ethical stands and........shockingly....those decisions earned Trump's vitriol.
On the other hand, they knew, or should have known what a snake they were dealing with.
 
Mashmont said:
It's no one's constitutional duty to uphold a fraudulent election. In fact it's their duty to oppose it. That's what I would have done.
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That’s why no one would trust you to govern a Dollar General much less the US
 
Keridan said:
Honestly, I sympathize with him. You get a chance at VP and even make it there. You support the man who got you there even when it's very hard. Then, after years of sacrifice, you get a final dagger in the back when he costs you the election.
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Isn't Pence an "End Times" evangelical Christian former right-wing radio host that helped to normalize Trump for the evangelicals?
 
CaughtInThe said:
www.businessinsider.com

Mike Pence was livid 'after all the things I've done' for Trump, according to Oklahoma senator who spoke with the VP

Sen. Jim Inhofe said he had "never seen Pence as angry as he was today," with Pence calling out "all the things I've done" for Trump.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com



Psssttt. Mike.

Donald doesn't give a **** about you.
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Well Mike put your money where your mouth is and get together with the cabinet and write that letter to Congress to trigger the 25th Amendment.
 
Mashmont said:
It's no one's constitutional duty to uphold a fraudulent election. In fact it's their duty to oppose it. That's what I would have done.
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I think you quoted wrong person. I will say however, that the only reason these laws were enacted was in case a state or states couldn't get their electoral college vote together. The only time it can be overruled with reason is when a state fails to suit their electoral votes correctly.

Every state did it's part in turning them in and certifying them. States rights means those votes have to be granted.

I really don't like our new president-elect and I can't stand his partner. But I would be absolutely disgusted and ashamed if the congress and VP didn't sign off on this one.
 
radioman said:
Yeah, I've got a little sympathy for Pence and also for Sessions.
They both took ethical stands and........shockingly....those decisions earned Trump's vitriol.
On the other hand, they knew, or should have known what a snake they were dealing with.
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Said the scorpion to the frog.....
 
Antiwar said:
Isn't Pence an "End Times" evangelical Christian former right-wing radio host that helped to normalize Trump for the evangelicals?
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To be completely honest, Pence had never mattered enough to me to know this. However, he did his duty and is on the way out now. Just shut the door behind him imo
 
iliveonramen said:
That’s why no one would trust you to govern a Dollar General much less the US
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Dollar General is a highly successful company. Thank you for suggesting I could be CEO. I hadn't thought about it.
 
Mashmont said:
It's no one's constitutional duty to uphold a fraudulent election. In fact it's their duty to oppose it. That's what I would have done.
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LOL, what happened to originalism? What would the Federalist Society say about your claim?

There's nothing in the Constitution that says the VP can unilaterally declare the election fraudulent.

The only thing fraudulent is your so called conservatism.
 
Keridan said:
I think you quoted wrong person. I will say however, that the only reason these laws were enacted was in case a state or states couldn't get their electoral college vote together. The only time it can be overruled with reason is when a state fails to suit their electoral votes correctly.

Every state did it's part in turning them in and certifying them. States rights means those votes have to be granted.

I really don't like our new president-elect and I can't stand his partner. But I would be absolutely disgusted and ashamed if the congress and VP didn't sign off on this one.
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Oh, I just couldn't in good conscience certify an election I knew to be fraudulent.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
LOL, what happened to originalism? What would the Federalist Society say about your claim?

There's nothing in the Constitution that says the VP can unilaterally declare the election fraudulent.

The only thing fraudulent is your so called conservatism.
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I'm sorry. My conscience wouldn't allow me to certify or have any endorsement of an election I knew to be fraudulent. I couldn't live with myself.
 
armycowboy said:
Pence's role last night was merely a ceremonious one. Stop consuming far right media.
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No way I could certify an election I knew for a fact was fraudulent. I don't know how anybody could.
 
Keridan said:
Luckily that wasn't the choice they had to make
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It absolutely was. Pence did what I did. I couldn't have done that. In the end, Trump stands alone, among his 75 million supporters as almost the only one in Washington defending righteousness. God is with him, imho.
 
Antiwar said:
Isn't Pence an "End Times" evangelical Christian former right-wing radio host that helped to normalize Trump for the evangelicals?
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I don't know anything about that, but he is an evangelical Christian at the far right on the abortion issue. He was Indiana's governor when the rattlesnake chose him to be his running mate.
 
Mashmont said:
I'm sorry. My conscience wouldn't allow me to certify or have any endorsement of an election I knew to be fraudulent. I couldn't live with myself.
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Do you seriously think this is the first election where a losing candidate has claimed he was cheated? We have laws and procedures for contesting results. Trump has exhausted all his legal options.

Without law and order we have the chaos we saw at the Capitol.
 
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