Mike Pence Comes Out Against Trump’s Plan to Pardon January 6 Rioters: ‘Literally Praying’ Trump and Vance Uphold Their Oaths

[mrjurrs]

The OP was about the riots. So we were talking at cross purposes.

In any case, I would say Pence did a lot to facilitate the peaceful transfer of power by going against Trump.

What do you see as the difference between the planning and the riots?

 

[element94]

No one is surprised that maga would minimize injuries suffered as a consequence their actions....



....real heroes to you all are the very fine people who were captured and imprisoned fighting against the United States not for it.

Someday there will be monuments erected in their honor.

Yes, lets remember they attacked, and beat, law enforcement officers whose job was to protect the U.S. Capital building. Why, you may ask, did these people attack the Capitol building? Because they were so mad that they lost the election they couldn't stand it and couldn't control themselves, so what did they do? They threatened to hang their Vice President because he wouldn't violate the law or the U.S. Constitution to sate their lies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (it was an actual chant: "Hang Mike Pence" that was recorded by news crews on video). They also did what these type of vile, subhuman, violent nitwits like to do: publicly urinate and defecate inside the People's House because, again, they were soooooooooo mad that they lost the election they couldn't stand it or control themselves. They should rot in prison for decades!

 

[Corbell]

You’re wrong. If you assault a police officer you’re going to jail even if you’re 90

Nope. Decisions to allocate limited resources, to avoid wasting them, is a part of normal law enforcement.

This is not that. This is political. Thus those 1/6 prisoners, are POLITICAL PRISONERS.

 

[ClaraD]

Nope. Decisions to allocate limited resources, to avoid wasting them, is a part of normal law enforcement.

This is not that. This is political. Thus those 1/6 prisoners, are POLITICAL PRISONERS.

They made the choice to commit crimes, they have to do the time...age is not relevant to charges. If a 90 year old murders someone, should they be charged? Of course they should.

 

[BabaVoss]

<<<=== “They let you do it if you’re a star. You can do anything.” - Donald Felonious Trump



Trump has made many vows and sworn oaths in his life - and has never kept any of them.

 

[Corbell]

They made the choice to commit crimes, they have to do the time...age is not relevant to charges. If a 90 year old murders someone, should they be charged? Of course they should.

YOu ignored my point and reasserted the previous argument.

That is the logical fallacy of proof by reassertion. YOu thus lose the debate.


My point stands and is clearly beyond your ability to even address, let alone refute.



Decisions to allocate limited resources, to avoid wasting them, is a part of normal law enforcement.

This is not that. This is political. Thus those 1/6 prisoners, are POLITICAL PRISONERS.

 

[BabaVoss]

those 1/6 prisoners, are POLITICAL PRISONERS.

No. They committed real crimes and are therefore criminals.

 

[Threegoofs]

He should pardon them all. If the fbi hasn't managed to get them in jail by now, then teh case against them must be shit.

Also, the ones that have served time or are serving time, have already served too much.

Sure.

Where else are we going to get enough leaders to run the brownshirts?

 

[mike2810]

Nope. Decisions to allocate limited resources, to avoid wasting them, is a part of normal law enforcement.

This is not that. This is political. Thus those 1/6 prisoners, are POLITICAL PRISONERS.

A riot is a riot. I don't care what caused people to riot. The rioters broke the law. Some assaulted law enforcement officers. Some were found guilty. They deserve the punishment the law allows.

Let me ask you this since you are claiming they are political prisoners. If a town enacts a new curfew law and people riot. The rioters are arrested, are they political prisoners or are they just some person who broke the law?

 

[Corbell]

No. They committed real crimes and are therefore criminals.

Wow. You cut from my post, the bit where I gave my supporting argument, and then addressed my conclusion without addressing my argument, at all.


That was insanely cowardly and weak behavior by you.

 

[Corbell]

Sure.

Where else are we going to get enough leaders to run the brownshirts?

over 500 riots on your side, with dozens killed, and you accuse US of having "brown shirts"?


I am impressed with your gall.

 

[Corbell]

A riot is a riot. I don't care what caused people to riot. The rioters broke the law. Some assaulted law enforcement officers. Some were found guilty. They deserve the punishment the law allows.

Really? How interesting. Every anti-Trumper I know, when pressed about the 500 lefty riots of the trump years, HAS TO MENTION how justified those rioters were, becasue "wacism".

Let me ask you this since you are claiming they are political prisoners. If a town enacts a new curfew law and people riot. The rioters are arrested, are they political prisoners or are they just some person who broke the law?

Depends. IF for example, there were 500 other riots during the same time period by other groups, adn those rioters are not targetted for arrest the same way as the ONE group, if this ONE group was singled out, from all the others, for POLITICAL REASONS, then they are indeed political prisoners.


on the other hand, if all the rioters are treated the same by law enforcement, whether it be the same harshness, or the same laxness, then that is fair, it is JUSTICE and not politcal oppression.



This is a simple concept. It is clealry true. As of yet I have not found a single lefty with the moral courage to even address it seriously, let alone admit that it is true, as it clearly is.

 

[Threegoofs]

over 500 riots on your side, with dozens killed, and you accuse US of having "brown shirts"?


I am impressed with your gall.

My side?

You know those riots were not done in support of some political candidate, right?

 

[mike2810]

Really? How interesting. Every anti-Trumper I know, when pressed about the 500 lefty riots of the trump years, HAS TO MENTION how justified those rioters were, becasue "wacism".

does not apply to me. The topic is not about Trump. It is about the 1/6 rioters and the possible pardons.

Depends. IF for example, there were 500 other riots during the same time period by other groups, adn those rioters are not targetted for arrest the same way as the ONE group, if this ONE group was singled out, from all the others, for POLITICAL REASONS, then they are indeed political prisoners.

then prove that happened to those who were arrested on 1/6

on the other hand, if all the rioters are treated the same by law enforcement, whether it be the same harshness, or the same laxness, then that is fair, it is JUSTICE and not politcal oppression.



This is a simple concept. It is clealry true. As of yet I have not found a single lefty with the moral courage to even address it seriously, let alone admit that it is true, as it clearly is.

Does not apply to me since I am not a lefty. What I find interesting is you seem to believe that anyone who disagrees with you is a lefty.

The 1/6 rioters who were arrested and convicted are not political prisoners. They broke the law.

 

[Corbell]

My side?

You know those riots were not done in support of some political candidate, right?

Sure they weren't. Now, explain your support for their reasons. Oh, and deny that the dem mayors ordered the cops to stand down, if not arrest people for self defense against, the rioters.

 

[Threegoofs]

Sure they weren't. Now, explain your support for their reasons. Oh, and deny that the dem mayors ordered the cops to stand down, if not arrest people for self defense against, the rioters.

People were arrested all the time.

You live in some alternate universe, dude.

And the riots were often based on protests about police brutality, and ended up turning into riots from people idle from the pandemic.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

No “lefty riot” invaded the Capitol building in an attempt to overthrow the election. They aren’t comparable.

The vast majority were charged for things unrelated. Assault, destruction of property, trespassing. 355 were procecuted for obstructing an official proceeding, not overthrowing an election, In which the Supreme Court overturned. That in itself should tell you, much of it was politically motivated.

 

[Bodecea]

He should pardon them all. If the fbi hasn't managed to get them in jail by now, then teh case against them must be shit.

Also, the ones that have served time or are serving time, have already served too much.

Rioters and violent assaulters pardoned...your rapey felon's Amerika.

 

[Corbell]

People were arrested all the time.

You live in some alternate universe, dude.

AND, peoplew were let go, all the time too. But you know what never happened? We never devoted large amounts of resources and efforts into tracking down those lefty rioters, after the fact, to make sure we could get them all or at least as many as possible. Certianly no investiation into the organizers.

And the riots were often based on protests about police brutality, and ended up turning into riots from people idle from the pandemic.

Thanks for admitting you support their reasons for rioting.

 

[Corbell]

Rioters and violent assaulters pardoned...your rapey felon's Amerika.

That they picked one riot to target like crazy and gave everyone else a pass, makes it political.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

AND, peoplew were let go, all the time too. But you know what never happened? We never devoted large amounts of resources and efforts into tracking down those lefty rioters, after the fact, to make sure we could get them all or at least as many as possible. Certianly no investiation into the organizers.





Thanks for admitting you support their reasons for rioting.

Actually, several now admit it was a riot and not insurrection…..progress.

 

[Threegoofs]

Actually, several now admit it was a riot and not insurrection…..progress.

Why not both? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Why not both? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The election is over and Trump won. They don’t feel the need to continue with the false narrative anymore.

 

[BabaVoss]

Wow. You cut from my post, the bit where I gave my supporting argument, and then addressed my conclusion without addressing my argument, at all.


That was insanely cowardly and weak behavior by you.

I simplified what is plainly a weak argument. They committed crimes. There is no valid supporting argument to toss the rule of law. Sorry.

 

[trixare4kids]

Mike who?