Mike Johnson Says ICE Shooting a Priest Doesn’t Cross the Line

[CLAX1911]

The USA has been a halfway house for all of the rejects of the world for quite some time,

No. That 1.1 billion people. There is simply not enough in the country to be the world's halfway house.

It's a place that welcomes people that want to be part of it

dating back to before it even was the USA. Hadn’t you noticed? Cf. Emma Lazarus’s statement about “wretched refuse.”

Bet there's more to that.

 

[Nickyjo]

No. That 1.1 billion people. There is simply not enough in the country to be the world's halfway house.

It's a place that welcomes people that want to be part of it

Bet there's more to that.

There is more, about welcoming the tired and poor, homeless and huddled masses were all mentioned. You can find the full text at the Statue of Liberty, as it was intended for that monument, or on line.

 

[CLAX1911]

There is more, about welcoming the tired and poor, homeless and huddled masses were all mentioned. You can find the full text at the Statue of Liberty, as it was intended for that monument, or on line.

Doubt there was anything about letting foreigners remain loyal to a state they would do anything for except live there, mooching off the fat of the land.

 

[Nickyjo]

Doubt there was anything about letting foreigners remain loyal to a state they would do anything for except live there, mooching off the fat of the land.

Who in the world are you referring to?

 

[CLAX1911]

Who in the world are you referring to?

Duh who could it be ?

 

[NolanVoyd]

It is reasonable force.

I just proved to you that its not.

Why did you delete the proof?

Here you go, again.

Read.

"deploying a weapon in a way that risks serious injury or death against a non-violent individual is typically unconstitutional."

"Law enforcement is expected to use force in a way that is proportional to the threat. Less-lethal munitions should not be used as punishment or to disperse non-violent protesters."

 

[ModernDiogenes]

The difference here is there is simply no tolerance being given. You cross the legal limit with ICE and they arrest you. If you resist, you get put down.

No softball here. They are playing hardball. It amazes me the left is so stupid they have not realized this yet.

They aren’t playing “hardball”. They are hiring people who shouldn’t pass screening, violating Constitutional rights and of the videos I’ve seen captured are real acting most unprofessionally.

 

[justoneman]

I just proved to you that its not.

Why did you delete the proof?

Its not a gun with a bullet. Your BS sources say it is illegal to hit a person in the torso with a pepper ball. You did not prove anything.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Its not a gun with a bullet. Your BS sources say it is illegal to hit a person in the torso with a pepper ball. You did not prove anything.

So when cops pull someone over, they can pepper ball them to get their attention?

 

[justoneman]

So when cops pull someone over, they can pepper ball them to get their attention?

They can pepperball a protestor on ICE property.

 

[Hamish Howl]

They can pepperball a protestor on ICE property.

Then a cop can pepperball a person they've pulled over, just to get their complete attention.

Since there are no standards for escalation of force or anything.

 

[bongsaway]

The difference here is there is simply no tolerance being given. You cross the legal limit with ICE and they arrest you. If you resist, you get put down.

No softball here. They are playing hardball. It amazes me the left is so stupid they have not realized this yet.

They are playing terrorists and anyone who supports their illegal actions is an enemy of democracy.

 

[justoneman]

Then a cop can pepperball a person they've pulled over, just to get their complete attention.

Since there are no standards for escalation of force or anything.

No they can pepperball a protesting trespasser on the ICE driveway.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Its not a gun with a bullet.

i know.

its a pepperball. Fired through a type of gun.

Firing at the head of a protester who posed no threat to you is illegal, against department policy, and unconstitutionsl.

As i proved to you.

Your BS sources say it is illegal to hit a person in the torso with a pepper ball. You did not prove anything.

Read.

"deploying a weapon in a way that risks serious injury or death against a non-violent individual is typically unconstitutional."

"Law enforcement is expected to use force in a way that is proportional to the threat. Less-lethal munitions should not be used as punishment or to disperse non-violent protesters."

 

[justoneman]

i know.

its a pepperball. Fired through a type of gun.

Firing at the head of a protester who posed no threat to you is illegal, against department policy, and unconstitutionsl.

As i proved to you.

No it is fine sending a pepper ball at protestors trespassing on ICE property.

 

[NolanVoyd]

No it is fine sending a pepper ball at protestors trespassing on ICE property.

Lol.

You keep earsing the proof that you are wrong instead of adressing it.

How emberassing.

Here you go again.

Read.

"deploying a weapon in a way that risks serious injury or death against a non-violent individual is typically unconstitutional."

"Law enforcement is expected to use force in a way that is proportional to the threat. Less-lethal munitions should not be used as punishment or to disperse non-violent protesters."

 

[Lord of Planar]

You were source trolling and derailing.
Any one who watched any news over the last couple of days KNOWS that the OP accurately stated what Johnson said.

I do not watch news channels.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Shouting at Federal LEOS with a microphone is a crime now?

Show me the law that says that.

They are doing more than that, and you know it.

Stop the stupidity and address the real stuff.

Now the amplified yelling is actually illegal after certain hours. Noise ordinances you know. The people who live in the area are complaining every night and the snowflake Portland PD do nothing.

 

[Peter]

The difference here is there is simply no tolerance being given. You cross the legal limit with ICE and they arrest you. If you resist, you get put down.

No softball here. They are playing hardball. It amazes me the left is so stupid they have not realized this yet.

This is exactly why the US is such a shithole.
There are people like you who fully back Ice and police brutality against peaceful protestors.

In any other civilised country such tactics would be unacceptable.
You seem to think casual assault by the authorities is the only way to handle things.

 

[Lord of Planar]

They aren’t playing “hardball”. They are hiring people who shouldn’t pass screening, violating Constitutional rights and of the videos I’ve seen captured are real acting most unprofessionally.

I didn't know you were involved in the hiring process.

Please tell us more of your experiences.

 

[Lord of Planar]

This is exactly why the US is such a shithole.
There are people like you who fully back Ice and police brutality against peaceful protestors.

I disagree. Being soft on out of control protests is one of the causes we are spiraling downhill as a nation.

In any other civilised country such tactics would be unacceptable.

I see. You play follow the leader instead of thinking as a leader.

You seem to think casual assault by the authorities is the only way to handle things.

Wow. "Only?" I see you are another person limited to binary thinking.

 

[jaeger19]

At least it's the only thing the little Goebbels of the left want people to see. Of course outside of Blue Sky and DP - no one gives a shit about this. It's just more nutbaggary by the radical fringe.

Your surrender is noted.

Right - wouldn't want facts to mess up the demagoguery.

of course not. No matter the facts presented yto you you prefer your demagoguery.

Law enforcement? In Haiti maybe?

Good ole USA.

Taz - you'll be more convincing if you get the terms right.

Yeah no

What a stupid claim - made by someone with utterly no clue how actual law enforcement works - but who is hyper-partisan

Oh great. Then you provide how use of force works for Leo’s.
Please detail why the last 27 seconds before use of force aren’t relevant .

Lying won't help you. It was a barricaded, restricted buffer zone. Identical to the barricading used to control protesters at the Reichstag Fire,

Great. Show the evidence that he broke through said barricade and placed law enforcement in imminent danger while he stood still holding this hands in the air.

What church did you claim this guy is the pastor of? Oh right - you can't come up with that. The mob were in a restricted which is a direct threat to the agents. A real LEO would grasp that.

Now now stop lying. I already linked to his church where he is a pastor.

None of what you claim is true. Pure hyperbole from the leftist extremists. She was a protester who ignored police orders to desist and vacate - identical to the supposed "priest." But of course, he was to killed for what he did.

You are welcome e to dispute it using some citations and evidence . I presented evidence clearly. Let’s see you produce something that backs up your claims. I’ve asked for sone and you haven’t produced anything.

You're the mind reader - you tell me what an unarmed, 5 foot woman who weighed 110 soaking wet "intended?"

I think it’s pretty clear she intended to breach the barricade and help the rest of the mob breach the barricade to commit violence on the
Congressman and capital police . Which they had already committed violence on the capital police and broke through barricades.

The reeking hypocrisy from you doesn't even register - does it?

Please explain the hypocrisy.
Please show that the pastor broke through barricades, assaulted police , broke into a federal building and was in the process of breaking through a barricaded door.

So, one set of rules for radicals threatening ICE to promote the illegal invasion of the nation - but completely different rules for Americans who dare protest against the democrat party. We know the hatred democrats have for America and Americans.

Nope. Same rules for me. But not by you. You show me the threat to ice that the pastor represented.
Babbitt was breaching an indoor barricaded door to allow a mob that had ALREADY assaulted capital police.
It seems my friend you are the hypocrite .

ROFL

He says from his perch of hypocrisy...

You may want to look up psychological projection.

 

[Sage077]

It's no longer a battle between political parties. It's now a battle between people with no morals versus people with morals.



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Cross WHAT LINE???? There are no lines or boundaries left now. Shooting a priest?? just part of the job. It takes a special kind of sinister conduct and attitude to behave as they are now.

 

[justoneman]

Lol.

You keep earsing the proof that you are wrong instead of adressing it.
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"deploying a weapon in a way that risks serious injury or death against a non-violent individual is typically unconstitutional."

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Are you suggesting that the guy who took the pepper ball was seriously injured or killed?

 

[Lovebug]

Agree to my terms - or go pound sand. Second request, there won't be a third.

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