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Microsoft about to revolutionize the gaming world.

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Before we continue, please do the following:

Open Google

Set it to Video

Enter the following:

project natal

Now watch a few.

Now, enter "Milo Project Natal Lionhead"

Watch THAT video.

Freaking beyond kool. If this works half as well as advertized... MS just won the console wars.
 
Broken Toys My Indepth Reaction To The Project Natal Video

from the comments:

This was fabricated. There’s a real demo which is more realistic and also a lot less fun-looking — essentially, it’s the EyeToy. Except this one knows your name and is voiced by the original voice actors, too, which means, knowing XBL, that voice actors probably spent extra time in the recording studio carefully pronouncing ‘xXx1PwNdU1xXx’ into the microphone,

A more amusing comment:

I imagine this could turn any MMO into a heart-attack-inducing workout — if it worked properly.

I do think it looks cool, but as best I can tell, the technology is a long way off yet, and if Microsoft is developing it, I would be scared to use it.

And a racing game where you need a pit crew hanging out around you is beyond lame.
 
Looks awesome, but of course it won't be that perfect in RL. And families won't all stand around playing and watching at the same time. That was supposed to happen with the Wii, too, but ideals and reality always clash in the end.
 
Looks awesome. I'm a 360 fan, so this is good news. :2razz:
 
Before we continue, please do the following:

Open Google

Set it to Video

Enter the following:

project natal

Now watch a few.

Now, enter "Milo Project Natal Lionhead"

Watch THAT video.

Freaking beyond kool. If this works half as well as advertized... MS just won the console wars.

I came here to view all that content.
 
I guess "revolutionize" means to make a crap product that won't work for **** and won't sell because most people who are into video games aren't going to want to expend the effort.
 
I guess "revolutionize" means to make a crap product that won't work for **** and won't sell because most people who are into video games aren't going to want to expend the effort.

Yep, we even have programs to automatically upgrade the programs that make our games easier.
 
Microsoft doing great work in games, windows and software. Now a days every one want to take microsoft training and do some online courses through Microsoft. I have also got cissp certification through Microsoft. Without doubts Microsoft is best in every thing because it has a name, fame and best quality work.
 
Microsoft doing great work in games, windows and software. Now a days every one want to take microsoft training and do some online courses through Microsoft. I have also got cissp certification through Microsoft. Without doubts Microsoft is best in every thing because it has a name, fame and best quality work.
Awesome. :mrgreen:
 
PC gaming still dominates all.

Yeah, yeah, whatever. Isn't it great that not many people actually care about PC gaming? The spec matching, the use of an office chair, the isolation from your fellow man all seems worth it to me for better graphics, some games with a lot more players (the only decent point to it most of the time), and the ability to pick from a ton of useless mods. I never really understood the whole "mouse=accuracy" stuff. I discovered I was able to do just as well on either system, it just depended upon how much time I was willing to put into the said system.

To me, not much of this video demo has use. Trying on clothes via video game console? Looking like that family you grew up with who were a little too enthusiastic about family time (Dad makes me want to gag in this video)?

On the gaming front, even though I can disagree, many people bring up the point that they don't want to run around kicking, punching, and pretending to hold a powerful shotgun or samurai sword.

Do we really have that much research into how long a family uses their Nintendo Wii? We already know the 1st party and 3rd party games (granted, most developers are producing shovelware at this point) are not selling. Perhaps we are experiencing an initial interest in this type of gaming followed by regular people quickly becoming bored with it entirely, while the supposedly "hardcore gamers" mostly ignore the technology.

But Microsoft already won the console war. Sony, despite having a well-built system, can't really lower the price much further and hasn't addressed the concern that most people simply do not see the amount of games necessary to spend the extra dough. Compound that with the inability of developers to figure out how in the heck to make use of the Cell processor and Sony's inability to make the upgrade path make some sense in backwards compatibility, and you got yourself a big mess.

Of course, the 360's internal guts are one big pile of dung that fail at an abysmal rate and Microsoft can't get over requiring the user to connect to Xbox Live to do anything with media, but they plowed through the competition early and made it cheaper to do so.
 
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Gaming platforms are only as good as the developers. You can have the fastest kick ass gaming machine that can process at a rate of 3 gigaflops and have the latest video card that can wipe your own ass while processing 3d video.

But like I said if developers have no passion in the software being programmed the system is just a Dodge Viper with a ****ty driver that doesn't know how to drive a manual.

I could take the biggest turd and put it in a decorative box with lots of bling but in essence I sold you a piece of ****.
 
Anyone who's been to Gamestop is aware that PC game do not dominate the market any more. The combination of high priced systems, confusing systems, difficulty for software companies to debug so many system variations, and the gravity of big MMOs (WoW, Sims) has left the PC game market gutted.
Most big titles likely only exist on PC still because they adapt the games for both PC and console.

PC gaming may stay at low levels, my resurge, or may dwindle further...but they certainly are not the lions share right now. It's like 3:1 console to PC.

Microsofts entry into XBOX was theoretically a smart move. To develop on the XBOX console makes it near-trivial to port to/from the PC...not so for the other consoles.

-Mach
 
PC gaming technology is constantly revolutionizing while consoles only change and revolutionize every few years when said company releases a newer version of that console with the latest tech. So yes, i do think the PC game dominates the market, especially because its so easy to mod on the computer, and enhance your experience and it is more personal. Also, you can add or replaces the hardware of the PC which you cannot do on the PS3 for two reasons; its not possible to do that as the console format is different from the PC hardware you can easily obtain and copyright red tape. I am personally PS3 shifting these days though.
 
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PC gaming technology is constantly revolutionizing while consoles only change and revolutionize every few years when said company releases a newer version of that console with the latest tech. So yes, i do think the PC game dominates the market, especially because its so easy to mod on the computer, and enhance your experience and it is more personal. Also, you can add or replaces the hardware of the PC which you cannot do on the PS3 for two reasons; its not possible to do that as the console format is different from the PC hardware you can easily obtain and copyright red tape. I am personally PS3 shifting these days though.

The experience on a PC has not been revolutionary in well over 15 years. What it does help provide is a steady direction in resolution, textures, and physics engines.

It may feel more personal, but it is also incredibly isolating. Perhaps it is otherwise if you enjoy a stationary position, staring into a screen inches from your face, being tied to a keyboard and mouse, alone, with only your companions on another terminal-somewhere in the distance- for comfort (granted, on the PC at least there can be hundreds).
 
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What experience then is the fundamental difference between the PC and the console?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HluWsMlfj68"]YouTube - Project Natal: Meet Milo[/ame]

Btw, Project Milo seems awesome. Thanks for posting.
 
What experience then is the fundamental difference between the PC and the console?

YouTube - Project Natal: Meet Milo

Btw, Project Milo seems awesome. Thanks for posting.

Shucks, I didn't think anyone would respond so quickly. I edited my earlier post because of that expectation.

The console is far more humanizing, in my opinion.
 
PC gaming technology is constantly revolutionizing while consoles only change and revolutionize every few years when said company releases a newer version of that console with the latest tech. So yes, i do think the PC game dominates the market, especially because its so easy to mod on the computer, and enhance your experience and it is more personal. Also, you can add or replaces the hardware of the PC which you cannot do on the PS3 for two reasons; its not possible to do that as the console format is different from the PC hardware you can easily obtain and copyright red tape. I am personally PS3 shifting these days though.

Lastly, the customization issue is a classic example of catch 22. The addition of new hardware and software allows one particular user to perhaps have a more enjoyable experience than his compatriot, but there are several issues related to that as well. While not unique to new or different hardware or software, the end-user customization leaves open the possibility for the changes to actually decrease performance or reliability. Individual upgrades are still also quite expensive (especially with regard to video cards, which are becoming more and more important to the experience on a computer). Customization that will allow games to run more smoothly (which is often the goal) becomes a hassle when the console user has no need to worry. It may not look as beautiful as the computer counterpart, but chasing after that last line of performance and aesthetics is a drain on the wallet and on time.
 
Lastly, the customization issue is a classic example of catch 22. The addition of new hardware and software allows one particular user to perhaps have a more enjoyable experience than his compatriot, but there are several issues related to that as well. While not unique to new or different hardware or software, the end-user customization leaves open the possibility for the changes to actually decrease performance or reliability. Individual upgrades are still also quite expensive (especially with regard to video cards, which are becoming more and more important to the experience on a computer). Customization that will allow games to run more smoothly (which is often the goal) becomes a hassle when the console user has no need to worry. It may not look as beautiful as the computer counterpart, but chasing after that last line of performance and aesthetics is a drain on the wallet and on time.

Well judging from that video i posted mate, ill be migrating from the PS3 to the XBOX very shortly.
 
Sony also debuted something further away from release than the Natal (and that's saying a lot right there) where there were there was a wand like object that was far more accurate than the Wii and Wii Motion Plus with the interactivity of objects.
 
Sony also debuted something further away from release than the Natal (and that's saying a lot right there) where there were there was a wand like object that was far more accurate than the Wii and Wii Motion Plus with the interactivity of objects.

One would have thought the next step after the PS3/XBOX gen was the virtual headset.
 
One would have thought the next step after the PS3/XBOX gen was the virtual headset.

Too isolating, goofy looking, and has been done before (though with very primitive technology).
 
When Natal will be released, if Milo will be released. There is no release date on Natal.
 
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