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Michigan Senate Votes 37-0 To Defeat NDAA

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In a vote of 37-0 (1 absent), the Michigan Senate joined the growing list of of states and municipalities throughout America in passing their version of the Liberty Preservation Act, released by the Tenth Amendment Center. Senate Bill 94 (SB94) now proceeds to the Michigan State House. State Senator Rick Jones, the bill's sponsor, and grassroots activists forged the bipartisan alliance against the federal law which applies the law of war and indefinite detention to anyone on U.S. soil.

After the bill's passage in the Senate, PANDA Michigan's Dennis Marburger vowed relentless opposition to all federal legislation which subverts the U.S. Constitution, saying:
“The very active and knowledgeable group of Michiganians fighting this egregious Federal overreach will not rest until there is real, tangible and viable state resistance to D.C.'s attempts to deny our rights and threaten our safety – whatever unconstitutional legislation, edict or judicial fiat our government employees use as an excuse.”

The unlawful mandates of the NDAA are sections 1021 and 1022 which allow the arrest, detention and/or transport to foreign prisons of anyone the federal government “suspects” is a terrorist. Those so imprisoned can be denied trial, access to an attorney, and the ability to even advise seomone they have been detained.

Read more at Michigan Senate Votes 37-0 to Defeat NDAA | P.A.N.D.A. People Against The NDAA
 
The unlawful mandates of the NDAA are sections 1021 and 1022 which allow the arrest, detention and/or transport to foreign prisons of anyone the federal government “suspects” is a terrorist.

Not exactly.

(b) COVERED PERSONS.-A covered person under this section is any person as follows:

(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.

(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.
 
The only issue I really have is "Detention under the law of war without trial until the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force." Is the War on Terror ever going to end? This isn't like another country we sign a peace treaty, its a "war" against an idea and means of political or religious violence.
 
On one hand, that pesky supremacy clause means that Michigan can't do anything to change the NDAA. On the other hand, it's an effective way to signal to the federal government that its action is unpopular and wrong. The same way state laws permitting marijuana will pressure the federal laws having to change, so too could resistance to all of this anti-terrorist "security".
 
American citizens just want to live a normal and peaceful life and not have to worry about being persecuted for having a differing opinion or view on issue's. These are some of the basic fundamentals of a democracy. The NDAA sounds like a bill that the North Korean regime would support.
 
In a vote of 37-0 (1 absent), the Michigan Senate joined the growing list of of states and municipalities throughout America in passing their version of the Liberty Preservation Act, released by the Tenth Amendment Center. Senate Bill 94 (SB94) now proceeds to the Michigan State House. State Senator Rick Jones, the bill's sponsor, and grassroots activists forged the bipartisan alliance against the federal law which applies the law of war and indefinite detention to anyone on U.S. soil.

After the bill's passage in the Senate, PANDA Michigan's Dennis Marburger vowed relentless opposition to all federal legislation which subverts the U.S. Constitution, saying:
“The very active and knowledgeable group of Michiganians fighting this egregious Federal overreach will not rest until there is real, tangible and viable state resistance to D.C.'s attempts to deny our rights and threaten our safety – whatever unconstitutional legislation, edict or judicial fiat our government employees use as an excuse.”

The unlawful mandates of the NDAA are sections 1021 and 1022 which allow the arrest, detention and/or transport to foreign prisons of anyone the federal government “suspects” is a terrorist. Those so imprisoned can be denied trial, access to an attorney, and the ability to even advise seomone they have been detained.

Read more at Michigan Senate Votes 37-0 to Defeat NDAA | P.A.N.D.A. People Against The NDAA

Readers' responses are worth a look here.
 
Readers' responses are worth a look here.

Yes, you are correct. Here they are.

It is inappropriate for an administration to sign law which denies the rights all citizens of the United States are granted. The current administration has gone on record saying we won't fully act out the extent of this law. That line of reasoning is a huge concern that an administration would find it OK to establish heavy restrictions on the citizens which may easily be imposed by future administrations or persons within the current administration whom act without restraint.

The restrictions passed and admission to them is like saying "I'm only a little bit pregnant."



As a Michigan resident, I could not be more proud of all members of the Michigan State Senate right now! I applaud all efforts to retain and maintain our hard won Constitutional rights. BRAVO Senators, and I pray that the State House follows suit.
 
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