aquapub
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aquapub said:In Bowling for Columbine, he staged a scene in a Traverse City, Michigan which was the pivotal basis of his “documentary.” It was all a lie. Moore claims that you walk in this bank, put a thousand dollars in an account, they do a quick background check, and then you walk out with a rifle. That was supposedly the offer the bank was making to people. Jan Jacobson, the woman who did the transaction for Moore, said that he had been in their bank for over a month staging this “impromptu” visit. He maliciously portrayed all the little guys who worked in the bank (you know, the guys Moore claims to be fighting for) as ignorant hicks, and then made it look like he walked right out with a gun.
What actually happens? Traverse City is made up largely of hunters, so they did offer people a hunting rifle for opening new accounts with a $1000 deposit, but there was a ten to twelve week waiting period, an extensive background check, and you had to go to a different city to get the rifle. Hardly the picture Moore portrayed.
FinnMacCool said:Some of the lies you found are merely ways of making it a more interesting film.
Binary_Digit said:Michael Moore is to liberals what George Bush is to conservatives - that idiot who makes us all look bad.
Binary_Digit said:Michael Moore is to liberals what George Bush is to conservatives - that idiot who makes us all look bad.
FinnMacCool said:His movies are documentarys. You can at least give him that much credit. When religous fanatics make documenatrys about Harry Potter fans being devil worshippers, though I don't agree with it, I would still call it a documentary. Michael Moore is very talented at film making, and you cannot deny that.
FinnMacCool said:Don't compare Michael Moore to George Bush. They aren't the same. Michael Moore is an entertainer and a film maker. His movies, if you agree with them or disagree with them are skillfully done and make very thought provoking points. Some of the lies you found are merely ways of making it a more interesting film. Michael Moore is a master of spin doctoring. However if you watch the movie you can always get passed that and see the movie for what it really is.
FinnMacCool said:You made some good points also but you also were misleading. First of all you didn't post a source so how is anyone supposed to take that seriously? Secondly, though I can't validiate or disprove a lot of your points, the "my cold dead hands thing" was clearly a case of simply good film making. Thats exactly what people do.
I also wish you would stop using the word documentary with quotes. Because it is a documentary whether you agree with it or not.
FinnMacCool said:If Michael Moore lies, and I know he does, you are guilty of the same type of thing that he does. Stop trying to use Michael Moore as a weapon against liberals. Instead, confront the real issues.
FinnMacCool said:His movies are documentarys.
www.m-w.com2 : of, relating to, or employing documentation in literature or art; broadly : FACTUAL, OBJECTIVE <a documentary film of the war>
(emphasis mine)Rule Twelve
Special Rules for The Documentary Awards
I. DEFINITION
An eligible documentary film is defined as a theatrically released non-fiction motion picture dealing creatively with cultural, artistic, historical, social, scientific, economic or other subjects. It may be photographed in actual occurrence, or may employ partial re-enactment, stock footage, stills, animation, stop-motion or other techniques, as long as the emphasis is on fact and not on fiction.
FinnMacCool said:They are documenatries. Michael Moorse says "I believe blah blah blah. The evidence is Blah blah blah blah' then he throws in some fancy ****. its a god damn documentary. just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it less of a documentary.
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