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nota bene said:
My first thought was "What does Trump have to do with this?" so I Googled. Governor Abbott accepted Mexico's offer yesterday. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/wea...bbotts-response-offer-hurricane-harvey-relief
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My point is if Mexico is as bad as Trump says it is, with Trump seeming to suggest Mexico means to do the US harm, why is Mexico providing aid at all?

Maybe its time for Trump supporters to realize its better to get along with your neighbors then fight with them, because you can choose your friends, not your neighbors.
 
Yes_Minister said:
My point is if Mexico is as bad as Trump says it is, with Trump seeming to suggest Mexico means to do the US harm, why is Mexico providing aid at all?

Maybe its time for Trump supporters to realize its better to get along with your neighbors then fight with them, because you can choose your friends, not your neighbors.
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Well, make up your mind--is your point to diss Trump or his supporters? ;)

And maybe it's time for you to think a bit about Texas's relationship with Mexico. I don't think you understand...at all.
 
Yes_Minister said:
My point is if Mexico is as bad as Trump says it is, with Trump seeming to suggest Mexico means to do the US harm, why is Mexico providing aid at all?

Maybe its time for Trump supporters to realize its better to get along with your neighbors then fight with them, because you can choose your friends, not your neighbors.
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so what are we fighting Mexico over? tell me
 
nota bene said:
Well, make up your mind--is your point to diss Trump or his supporters? ;)

And maybe it's time for you to think a bit about Texas's relationship with Mexico. I don't think you understand...at all.
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I am critcizing both Trump and his supporters. I think demonizing Mexico is an easy way to score political points, but I think the US has more of a symbiotic relationship with Mexico then it would like to admit. Are there issues with Mexico, sure, but trying to protray Mexico as an enemy is not helpful, IMO.

Trade with Mexico does create jobs, for example:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/510008/

The US is not surrounded by enemies the way Israel or South Korea.
 
volsrock said:
so what are we fighting Mexico over? tell me
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Well Trump is threatening to do damage to Mexico's economy and demand they pay for his wall, how is that friendly? Demanding someone else pay for something they don't want is not popular and America is becoming less popular in Mexico.
 
Yes_Minister said:
Mexico has offered to help Texas deal with hurricane Harvey, will Trump accept their help?

Tillerson thanks Mexico for Harvey aid offer | TheHill

Also Canada is sending help, including lumber for rebuilding efforts in Texas:

https://www.northernontariobusiness...ts-donating-canadian-lumber-to-houston-705413

Maybe Canada and Mexico are not such bad neighbors, after all.
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It's nice that both countries are extending help, but they shouldn't think this gives them brownie points when it come to the NAFTA renegotiations. That's a whole separate issue.
 
Yes_Minister said:
Well Trump is threatening to do damage to Mexico's economy and demand they pay for his wall, how is that friendly? Demanding someone else pay for something they don't want is not popular and America is becoming less popular in Mexico.
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If this means that fewer Mexicans/others enter this country illegally, good.

I guess I've missed President Trump demonizing Mexico. I'm pretty sure, though, that you don't need to explain to Texans (or Californians, as another example) what the symbiotic relationship is; instead, perhaps some will come along and explain this to you.
 
Mycroft said:
It's nice that both countries are extending help, but they shouldn't think this gives them brownie points when it come to the NAFTA renegotiations. That's a whole separate issue.
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Brownie points.
One of the first units on the ground after Katrina was an urban rescue team from Vancouver, in St. Bernard Parish. Out here, on the west coast, it's like the border doesn't exist for firefighting teams, with Americans helping out in British Columbia and Canadians pitching in in Washington, Oregon and California and Alaska.
Put your brownie points where they won't get rained on.
 
nota bene said:
I guess I've missed President Trump demonizing Mexico.
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Then you've literally been in a ****ing coma the past 18 months.

Mycroft said:
It's nice that both countries are extending help, but they shouldn't think this gives them brownie points when it come to the NAFTA renegotiations. That's a whole separate issue.
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When Mexico lends a helping hand to a natural disaster the first thing you can think is "What are those sneaky brown bastards up to!? This must be a strategy to take our jobs!"
 
nota bene said:
Well, make up your mind--is your point to diss Trump or his supporters? ;)

And maybe it's time for you to think a bit about Texas's relationship with Mexico. I don't think you understand...at all.
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Yeah Mexico doesnt have a lot of land left best not to make the Texans mad :mrgreen:
 
Yes_Minister said:
Mexico has offered to help Texas deal with hurricane Harvey, will Trump accept their help?

Tillerson thanks Mexico for Harvey aid offer | TheHill

Also Canada is sending help, including lumber for rebuilding efforts in Texas:

https://www.northernontariobusiness...ts-donating-canadian-lumber-to-houston-705413

Maybe Canada and Mexico are not such bad neighbors, after all.
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Well seeing as its the jackasses coming over from Mexico that are doing a vast majority of the harm, and not the country itself. I would like to think that Mexico isn't a bad neighbor.

Though the fact that this is basically being swung as a slap in the face to Trump is not an issue that is lost on me. There have been plenty of problems in the last decade that such a good neighbor would normally help on, but now that they have a chance to prove something contrary to what we have been seeing over the last decade. Its obvious that this is just for show, even if they are trying to help people this is plainly for the purposes of making the country seem not so bad.

Also it doesn't help that I can point out with the current illegal immigrant population in Texas, they are basically helping themselves at this point.

Canada can do all they want to help us, our two countries are basically married at this point. If one suffers, the other will most likely suffer as well.
 
Grand Mal said:
Brownie points.
One of the first units on the ground after Katrina was an urban rescue team from Vancouver, in St. Bernard Parish. Out here, on the west coast, it's like the border doesn't exist for firefighting teams, with Americans helping out in British Columbia and Canadians pitching in in Washington, Oregon and California and Alaska.
Put your brownie points where they won't get rained on.
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RabidAlpaca said:
When Mexico lends a helping hand to a natural disaster the first thing you can think is "What are those sneaky brown bastards up to!? This must be a strategy to take our jobs!"
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It was the OP who made this about NAFTA and about the wall in his posts #1 and #6. It's not the first thing I thought of.

Perhaps the two of you should try to read past the first paragraph of an article once in a while, eh? (or, perhaps y'all didn't even READ the articles)
 
Oborosen said:
Well seeing as its the jackasses coming over from Mexico that are doing a vast majority of the harm, and not the country itself. I would like to think that Mexico isn't a bad neighbor.

Though the fact that this is basically being swung as a slap in the face to Trump is not an issue that is lost on me. There have been plenty of problems in the last decade that such a good neighbor would normally help on, but now that they have a chance to prove something contrary to what we have been seeing over the last decade. Its obvious that this is just for show, even if they are trying to help people this is plainly for the purposes of making the country seem not so bad.

Also it doesn't help that I can point out with the current illegal immigrant population in Texas, they are basically helping themselves at this point.

Canada can do all they want to help us, our two countries are basically married at this point. If one suffers, the other will most likely suffer as well.
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Well Mexico also helped out during Hurricane Katrina:

FACT CHECK: Mexican Troops Aided U.S. After Hurricane Katrina?

Maybe Mexico acts in good faith sometimes.
 
Oborosen said:
We can only hope so, I just think they could be doing more then sitting on the side lines at this point.

We could have had a wonderful relationship with the country, going all the way back a whole generation.

But up till now, all of this time has be squandered.
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You folks will never have a wonderful relationship with Mexico they just too damn Brown
 
Yes_Minister said:
My point is if Mexico is as bad as Trump says it is, with Trump seeming to suggest Mexico means to do the US harm, why is Mexico providing aid at all?

Maybe its time for Trump supporters to realize its better to get along with your neighbors then fight with them, because you can choose your friends, not your neighbors.
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Hard to get along with a neighbor who keeps breaking into your house.
 
katzgar said:
You folks will never have a wonderful relationship with Mexico they just too damn Brown
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This is just such an unreasonable and silly statement.

Hispanic and Latino Texans are residents of the state of Texas who are of Hispanic or Latino ancestry. As of the 2010 U.S. Census, Hispanics and Latinos of any race were 51.5 of the state's population. 39.6% of Texans are of Mexican descent, accounting for 88% of Hispanics in Texas.[1]

Tejano or Texano (Spanish for "Texan") is a term used to identify a Texan of Criollo Spanish or Mexican heritage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanics_and_Latinos_in_Texas

https://www.census.gov/2010census/news/releases/operations/cb11-cn146.html
 
nota bene said:
This is just such an unreasonable and silly statement.

Hispanic and Latino Texans are residents of the state of Texas who are of Hispanic or Latino ancestry. As of the 2010 U.S. Census, Hispanics and Latinos of any race were 51.5 of the state's population. 39.6% of Texans are of Mexican descent, accounting for 88% of Hispanics in Texas.[1]

Tejano or Texano (Spanish for "Texan") is a term used to identify a Texan of Criollo Spanish or Mexican heritage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanics_and_Latinos_in_Texas

https://www.census.gov/2010census/news/releases/operations/cb11-cn146.html
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I understand the stats very well but that doesnt change reality. an aspect of the anti illegal thing is certainly racism
 
I understand the stats very well but that doesnt change reality. an aspect of the anti illegal thing is certainly racism
 
katzgar said:
I understand the stats very well but that doesnt change reality. an aspect of the anti illegal thing is certainly racism
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I hope various Texans will come along to explain what you don't understand.
 
Yes_Minister said:
I am critcizing both Trump and his supporters. I think demonizing Mexico is an easy way to score political points, but I think the US has more of a symbiotic relationship with Mexico then it would like to admit. Are there issues with Mexico, sure, but trying to protray Mexico as an enemy is not helpful, IMO.

Trade with Mexico does create jobs, for example:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/510008/

The US is not surrounded by enemies the way Israel or South Korea.
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When has the US portrayed Mexico as an enemy?
 
Mexico has a very famous team that call themselves the Moles.

They go into to destroyed buildings and such places to rescue people.

They go wherever they are needed whenever they are needed.
 
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