Is this social progress like voodoo or something? What kind of tool is it? Why didn't the women back then use this tool?
I already explained. Social progress is not something that a single gender can achieve.
Can you not understand this? For progress to occur, the dominate gender had to awaken to the desired justice. This did not really occur for another 2000 years, and it is still occurring today in regard to gays, blacks and women. You see, homosexual gay rights activists (and female feminists, and black equal rights advocates) are reliant upon those "white knights" (that you so disdain) in order for society to move forward.
The gender cannot push a wheelbarrow without a wheel.
Incorrect. If not as central to whichever format (in the form of ruling goddess) the feminine was revered as consort.
How did you get macadamia nuts in your head?Are you saying that men ALLOWED women to have a voice? If this is so, can they not also DISALLOW women to have a voice? If I can just clear the macadamia nuts out of my head, I might understand some of these fine points of history that you're discussing. Fascinating.
Are you saying that men ALLOWED women to have a voice?
Alright, man.Myth.
Noble savage.
No, I'm saying they gave us one: theirs. But bigots refuse the voice of others, because they're stupid and ignorant.
Alright, man.
Men didn't allow women to have a voice but they gave men a voice? Now, you're confusing me. Too many big words.
If i had to guess, I would suggest that he meant: Women let men speak for them, until men stopped listening.Men didn't allow women to have a voice but they gave men a voice? Now, you're confusing me. Too many big words.
If i had to guess, I would suggest that he meant: Women let men speak for them, until men stopped listening.
Are you saying that men ALLOWED women to have a voice? If this is so, can they not also DISALLOW women to have a voice? If I can just clear the macadamia nuts out of my head, I might understand some of these fine points of history that you're discussing. Fascinating.
If i had to guess, I would suggest that he meant: Women let men speak for them, until men stopped listening.
Ah.Thanks Mark, I know your intentions are good, but no.
Women give society a voice, just as any other minority does, but mostly we refuse to utilize it. Mostly, society is a wheelbarrow with no wheel. And yet, the oppressed push.
Well apparently I didn't translate correctly. Disregard.Does that mean that when men once again listen to women, that men can once again speak for women? I don't speak ecofarm's leftospeak, so his gibberish is really difficult to decipher.
Ah.
Not sure I understand though...
You're saying "X minority has a voice, but unless we listen it will not be utilized?".
First of all, you're misusing that term. Both gods and goddesses, along with myriad figures of religious worship have embodied our less than exemplary attributes.Provide a citation for your noble savage myth.
First of all, you're misusing that term. Both gods and goddesses, along with myriad figures of religious worship have embodied our less than exemplary attributes.
As for citations, you can Google to your heart's content. Anything from the principle of the sacred feminine to the polytheistic pantheons of Egypt, Greece and Rome that were abundant of femininity. Whether you do or not, you've provided nothing to substantiate your theory that Paul was attempting to protect anything. I'll wait.
Perhaps it's misguided, but I worry about minority groups guiding us in a direction which benefits the minority over the whole.Yes. They cannot move us forward alone.
You want proof that people have worshipped feminine deities?I didn't think you could provide a citation. Keep enjoying that myth.
Well apparently I didn't translate correctly. Disregard.
Perhaps it's misguided, but I worry about minority groups guiding us in a direction which benefits the minority over the whole.
Leftospeak is a really hard nut to crack.
You want proof that people have worshipped feminine deities?
Where's your proof for what, after all the deflection, remains a guess?
Where do I make any such reference? You're aware that Paganism wasn't regionally exclusive, right? And that the Church had designs on foreign influence? I mean, is Europe in the ME? Is the Vatican located in Israel?Just a citation for "gynocentric" or matriarchal pagans even existing in ancient Israel (and the surrounding regions).
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