Members of Florida church required to sign ‘biblical sexuality’ statement or be removed from membership

[justabubba]

Members of a Jacksonville, Fla., Baptist church have until March 19 to sign a statement on “biblical sexuality” or be removed from membership.

All members of First Baptist Church of Jacksonville are required to sign a form that indicates their agreement with a Statement on Biblical Sexuality adopted by the church last fall.

That statement says: “As a member of First Baptist Church, I believe that God creates people in his image as either male or female, and that this creation is a fixed matter of human biology, not individual choice. I believe marriage is instituted by God, not government, is between one man and one woman, and is the only context for sexual desire and expression.” ...

In a Q-and-A portion, the site addresses the question “What will happen if I do not sign the Statement by March 19, 2023? The answer: “Per the motion adopted by the church, you will be considered to have resigned your membership from First Baptist. But you can always join again by going through our membership process — attending the membership class, meeting with a pastor, and being voted on by the congregation.” ...

At its peak, the church reported about 12,000 people in Sunday attendance. ... Before the pandemic, the church reported Sunday attendance of about 3,000.

something tells me this church will experience a continued steep decline in membership as a result of this obligation for congregants to believe as they are told to believe - or leave

Members of Florida church required to sign ‘biblical sexuality’ statement or be removed from membership – Baptist News Global

All members of First Baptist Church of Jacksonville are required to sign a form that indicates their agreement with a Statement on Biblical Sexuality adopted by the church last fall.

baptistnews.com

 

[Rexedgar]

Is this parish included in the Southern Baptist Convention?

 

[Loulit01]

2 Now [b]early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people came to Him; and He sat down and taught them.

3 Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst,

4 they said to Him, “Teacher, [c]this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act.

5 Now [d]Moses, in the law, commanded us [e]that such should be stoned. But what do You [f]say?”

6 This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, [g]as though He did not hear.

7 So when they continued asking Him, He [h]raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.”

8 And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground.

9 Then those who heard it, being[i] convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10 When Jesus had raised Himself up [j]and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers [k]of yours? Has no one condemned you?”

11 She said, “No one, Lord.”

And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go [l]and sin no more.”

 

[Slartibartfast]

Their church, their rules.

 

[justabubba]

Is this parish included in the Southern Baptist Convention?

can't say, but it would not seem to stretch possibility

my wife's baptist church dropped out of the SBC long ago because of the perceived racism in that assembly

 

[phoenix2020]

So long as this church isn't receiving any tax breaks, they are welcome to apply such a rule.

 

[justabubba]

Their church, their rules.

absolutely

and their rules ARE absolute

 

[justabubba]

So long as this church isn't receiving any tax breaks, they are welcome to apply such a rule.

i would be surprised to learn it - and its 10 downtown city blocks - are not execpt from property tax in addition to the IRS 501c3 provisions

 

[justabubba]

2 Now [b]early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people came to Him; and He sat down and taught them.

3 Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst,

4 they said to Him, “Teacher, [c]this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act.

5 Now [d]Moses, in the law, commanded us [e]that such should be stoned. But what do You [f]say?”

6 This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, [g]as though He did not hear.

7 So when they continued asking Him, He [h]raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.”

8 And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground.

9 Then those who heard it, being[i] convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10 When Jesus had raised Himself up [j]and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers [k]of yours? Has no one condemned you?”

11 She said, “No one, Lord.”

And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go [l]and sin no more.”

that must be missing from this church's bibles

 

[Josie]

2 Now [b]early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people came to Him; and He sat down and taught them.

3 Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst,

4 they said to Him, “Teacher, [c]this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act.

5 Now [d]Moses, in the law, commanded us [e]that such should be stoned. But what do You [f]say?”

6 This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, [g]as though He did not hear.

7 So when they continued asking Him, He [h]raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.”

8 And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground.

9 Then those who heard it, being[i] convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10 When Jesus had raised Himself up [j]and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers [k]of yours? Has no one condemned you?”

11 She said, “No one, Lord.”

And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go [l]and sin no more.”

How do you think this pertains to the thread topic?

 

[Geoist]

'Biblical sexuality'.

Soooo... polygamy? 13 year old brides?

 

[MaryP]

Is this parish included in the Southern Baptist Convention?

I had learned that Baptists do not consider marriage one of the holy sacraments. They don't even record them. This is kind of confusing.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Members of a Jacksonville, Fla., Baptist church have until March 19 to sign a statement on “biblical sexuality” or be removed from membership.

It's Florida! All they have to do is walk all the members across the street!
Every goddamn church IN Florida has a strip club across the street, so just observe whether or not the men get a chubby after walking into the strip club.

 

[Ambig]

'Biblical sexuality'.

Soooo... polygamy? 13 year old brides?

Getting Daddy drunk and screwing him.

 

[Loulit01]

Do men have to forswear the sin of Onan?

 

[justabubba]

How do you think this pertains to the thread topic?

that acceptance of one who has sinned

that tolerance stands in stark contrast to what this church is doing by making every member subscribe to the church's unique creed

 

[Josie]

that acceptance of one who has sinned

Well, everyone has sinned so they'd have to unaccept everyone.

that tolerance stands in stark contrast to what this church is doing by making every member subscribe to the church's unique creed

When Jesus said "Go and sin no more" did He mean "Go and keep doing what you're doing"?

 

[iguanaman]

something tells me this church will experience a continued steep decline in membership as a result of this obligation for congregants to believe as they are told to believe - or leave

Members of Florida church required to sign ‘biblical sexuality’ statement or be removed from membership – Baptist News Global

All members of First Baptist Church of Jacksonville are required to sign a form that indicates their agreement with a Statement on Biblical Sexuality adopted by the church last fall.

baptistnews.com

Shhh. Don't give DeSantis any ideas. That sounds like just the thing he would want the legislature to approve for him next.

 

[justabubba]

Well, everyone has sinned so they'd have to unaccept everyone.


When Jesus said "Go and sin no more" did He mean "Go and keep doing what you're doing"?

according to account, He even noted that He had not judged her

in stark contrast with this 'church'

 

[Josie]

according to account, He even noted that He had not judged her

in stark contrast with this 'church'

Where did the church say they were judging your former sins? They're asking you to pledge to "sin no more".

 

[justabubba]

Shhh. Don't give DeSantis any ideas. That sounds like just the thing he would want the legislature to approve for him next.

after his sanctimonious response to the orlando symphony allowing juveniles to a show which included cross dressing he needs no inspiration to advance more stupid shit

 

[justabubba]

Where did the church say they were judging your former sins? They're asking you to pledge to "sin no more".

intolerance is the pledge

 

[Josie]

intolerance is the pledge

When Jesus told the woman not to sin anymore, was that intolerance?

 

[Daisy]

that must be missing from this church's bibles

Actually, it is missing from some translations, the NWT included...

The Greek manuscripts show fairly clear evidence that John 7:53—8:11 was not originally part of John’s Gospel. Among the manuscripts that do contain the section, either wholly or in part, there are variations of placement. Some manuscripts put the pericope adulterae after John 7:36, others after John 21:25, and some even place it in the Gospel of Luke (after Luke 21:38 or 24:53).

There is internal evidence, too, that John 7:53—8:11 is not original to the text. For one thing, the inclusion of these verses breaks the flow of John’s narrative. Reading from John 7:52 to John 8:12 (skipping the debated section) makes perfect sense. Also, the vocabulary used in the story of the adulterous woman is different from what is found in the rest of the Gospel of John. For example, John never refers to “the scribes” anywhere in his book—except in John 8:3. There are thirteen other words in this short section that are found nowhere else in John’s Gospel.

It certainly seems as if, somewhere along the way, a scribe added this story of Jesus into John’s Gospel in a place he thought it would fit well. Most likely, the story had been circulating for a long time—it was an oral tradition—and a scribe (or scribes) felt that, since it was already accepted as truth by consensus, it was appropriate to include it in the text of Scripture. The problem is that truth is not determined by consensus. The only thing we should consider inspired Scripture is what the prophets and apostles wrote as they “spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit” (2 Peter 1:21).
https://www.gotquestions.org/John-7-53-8-11.html

 

[reflechissez]

Where did the church say they were judging your former sins? They're asking you to pledge to "sin no more".

I'm sure that will work.