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Yeah. And in changing it, they at least tacitly acknowledged something about themsevles that you're unwilling to.

But I very much doubt you noticed it.
I saw it, but I couldn't care less whether you doubt it or not. :roll:
 

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QUOTEWhovian

MMA has a long established history of being liars...

Media Matters: Caught in Another Lie!

I could go on all day with more liks... but you get the idea...

MMA are liars.

Always have been... always will be... and anyone who uses them as primary source material is as bad as they are

Ok, lets check out your first link.Here is the transcript from From the September 19, 2007 edition of Westwood One's The Radio Factor: media matters.

Johnny Doller (the blogger) seems to have a problem with what was said before the “Now, how do we get to this point “. Perhaps you could clarify that for us.What was said before the “Now, how do we get to this point “?If this is not the full transcript then perhaps you can come up with one for us.:2wave:



O"REILLY: Now, how do we get to this point? Black people in this country understand that they've had a very, very tough go of it, and some of them can get past that, and some of them cannot. I don't think there's a black American who hasn't had a personal insult that they've had to deal with because of the color of their skin. I don't think there's one in the country. So you've got to accept that as being the truth. People deal with that stuff in a variety of ways. Some get bitter. Some say, [unintelligible] "You call me that, I'm gonna be more successful." OK, it depends on the personality.

So it's there. It's there, and I think it's getting better. I think black Americans are starting to think more and more for themselves. They're getting away from the Sharptons and the Jacksons and the people trying to lead them into a race-based culture. They're just trying to figure it out: "Look, I can make it. If I work hard and get educated, I can make it."

You know, I was up in Harlem a few weeks ago, and I actually had dinner with Al Sharpton, who is a very, very interesting guy. And he comes on The Factor a lot, and then I treated him to dinner, because he's made himself available to us, and I felt that I wanted to take him up there. And we went to Sylvia's, a very famous restaurant in Harlem. I had a great time, and all the people up there are tremendously respectful. They all watch The Factor. You know, when Sharpton and I walked in, it was like a big commotion and everything, but everybody was very nice.

And I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship. It was the same, and that's really what this society's all about now here in the U.S.A. There's no difference. There's no difference. There may be a cultural entertainment -- people may gravitate toward different cultural entertainment, but you go down to Little Italy, and you're gonna have that. It has nothing to do with the color of anybody's skin.

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O'REILLY: No, no, I mean, I like that soul food. I had the meatloaf special. I had coconut shrimp. I had the iced tea. It was great.

WILLIAMS: Well, let me just tell you, the one thing I would say is this. And we're talking about the kids who still like this gangsta rap, this vile poison that I think is absolutely, you know, literally a corruption of culture. I think that what you've got to take into account that it's still a majority white audience -- young, white people who think they're into rebelling against their parents who buy this stuff and think it's just a kick. You know, it's just a way of expressing their anti-authoritarianism.

O'REILLY: But it's a different -- it's a different dynamic, though.

WILLIAMS: Exactly right --

O'REILLY: Because the young, white kids don't have to struggle out of the ghetto.

WILLIAMS: Right, and also, I think they can have that as one phase of their lives.

O'REILLY: Yeah.

WILLIAMS: I think too many of the black kids take it as, "Oh, that's what it means to be authentically black. That's how you make money. That's how you become rich and famous and get on TV and get music videos." And you either get the boys or the girls. The girls think they have to, you know, be half-naked and spinning around like they're on meth in order to get any attention. It really corrupts people, and I think it adds, Bill, to some serious sociological problems, like the high out-of-wedlock birth rate because of this hypersexual imagery that then the kids adapt to some kind of reality. I mean, it's inauthentic. It's not in keeping with great black traditions of struggle and excellence, from Willie Mays to Aretha Franklin, but even in terms of academics, you know, going back to people like Charles Drew or Ben Carson here, the neurosurgeon at [Johns] Hopkins [University]. That stuff, all of a sudden, is pushed aside. That's treated as, "You're a nerd, you're acting white," if you try to be excellent and black.

O'REILLY: You know, and I went to the concert by Anita Baker at Radio City Music Hall, and the crowd was 50/50, black/white, and the blacks were well-dressed. And she came out -- Anita Baker came out on the stage and said, "Look, this is a show for the family. We're not gonna have any profanity here. We're not gonna do any rapping here." The band was excellent, but they were dressed in tuxedoes, and this is what white America doesn't know, particularly people who don't have a lot of interaction with black Americans. They think that the culture is dominated by Twista, Ludacris, and Snoop Dogg.

WILLIAMS: Oh, and it's just so awful. It's just so awful because, I mean, it's literally the sewer come to the surface, and now people take it that the sewer is the whole story --

O'REILLY: That's right. That's right. There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, "M-Fer, I want more iced tea."

WILLIAMS: Please --

O'REILLY: You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all.
 
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Ok, lets check out your first link.Here is the transcript from From the September 19, 2007 edition of Westwood One's The Radio Factor: media matters.

Johnny Doller (the blogger) seems to have a problem with what was said before the “Now, how do we get to this point “. Perhaps you could clarify that for us.What was said before the “Now, how do we get to this point “?If this is not the full transcript then perhaps you can come up with one for us.:2wave:

Perhaps you could use the link provided?
What point? Could that possibly be the point that you left out, the whole setup to the comments? All the stuff that Juan Williams talked about last night? Not only does the Media Matters transcript omit all that, but so does the MM audio clip. It starts at the same point as the transcript, and is less than five minutes long. The "full audio" is nearly 40 minutes!


You know... This one?
nearly 40 minutes!

Since it is a link to the entire 40 minute conversation, and not a 3 minute segment of it. I suppose that's too difficult for you though, huh.
 
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Of course you care... it infuriates you when your nonsense fails to sway anyone into joinging you in that cult you worship in.
You're just doing your best impression of Saul Alinsky - Rule 5.
 

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Perhaps you could use the link provided?



You know... This one?
nearly 40 minutes!

Since it is a link to the entire 40 minute conversation, and not a 3 minute segment of it. I suppose that's too difficult for you though, huh.

You don't need anymore than the following:
O"REILLY: Now, how do we get to this point? Black people in this country understand that they've had a very, very tough go of it, and some of them can get past that, and some of them cannot. I don't think there's a black American who hasn't had a personal insult that they've had to deal with because of the color of their skin. I don't think there's one in the country. So you've got to accept that as being the truth. People deal with that stuff in a variety of ways. Some get bitter. Some say, [unintelligible] "You call me that, I'm gonna be more successful." OK, it depends on the personality.
So it's there. It's there, and I think it's getting better. I think black Americans are starting to think more and more for themselves. They're getting away from the Sharptons and the Jacksons and the people trying to lead them into a race-based culture. They're just trying to figure it out: "Look, I can make it. If I work hard and get educated, I can make it."
You know, I was up in Harlem a few weeks ago, and I actually had dinner with Al Sharpton, who is a very, very interesting guy. And he comes on The Factor a lot, and then I treated him to dinner, because he's made himself available to us, and I felt that I wanted to take him up there. And we went to Sylvia's, a very famous restaurant in Harlem. I had a great time, and all the people up there are tremendously respectful. They all watch The Factor. You know, when Sharpton and I walked in, it was like a big commotion and everything, but everybody was very nice.
And I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship. It was the same, and that's really what this society's all about now here in the U.S.A. There's no difference. There's no difference. There may be a cultural entertainment -- people may gravitate toward different cultural entertainment, but you go down to Little Italy, and you're gonna have that. It has nothing to do with the color of anybody's skin.

Come on deny he said those words.
 

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QUOTE=Whovian

Perhaps you could use the link provided?

I did before I posted,Perhaps you should of as well.:mrgreen:



You know... This one?
nearly 40 minutes!

Since it is a link to the entire 40 minute conversation, and not a 3 minute segment of it. I suppose that's too difficult for you though, huh.

No need to worry about this ole man.The first part is Orilly talking about Dennis Miller and OJ before you get to “how do we get it at this point”.It takes up all of three minutes.Now you still stand by your and the bloggers assertion that media matters lied about this article ? :2wave:
 

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You don't need anymore than the following:


Come on deny he said those words.

I,m working on another of his links...maybe he is doing a bit of homework on HIS links as well. :mrgreen:
 

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You don't need anymore than the following:


Come on deny he said those words.

Yes, of course you wouldn't want ALL HIS WORDS taken into account... as opposed to JUST THE WORDS THAT PISS YOU OFF. How silly of me to think you might want all the information before you make a decision on something. Oh wait, I forgot... you don't make your own decisions or have your own opinions... you have only what the lying little ****s at MMA tell you. Again... how silly of me.
 
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