May the nonstop investigations begin.

[Fledermaus]

Direct relationship to Russia , the fact that this worm doesn't pay taxes. Money laundering, criminal actions, supporting hate groups, lying. There will be nothing in them that says I'm a criminal for sure but there will be many routes to investigate that will find enough evidence so that the country will be asking for a investigation, you think this criminal pig is honest.

How can it be a "fact"? You haven't seen his returns yet.

 

[upsideguy]

May i ask what specifically think the russians did?

Do you believe they hacked into the machines and changed the vote totals?

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What the Russians did is well articulated in the two broad indictments thus far....

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/07/13/gru.indictment.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

Given that 92% of federal indictments result in convictions (indictments come after a high bar has been met)... the probabilities tell us this is far, far more likely true than not.

If you are not comfortable reading the actual indictments, you can enjoy the analysis:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/us/politics/mueller-indictment-russian-intelligence-hacking.html
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/clues-in-muellers-indictment-point-to-collusion
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...s-takeaways-mueller-s-new-indictments-n891356
http://time.com/5338451/rod-rosenstein-russian-indictment-transcript/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...3ce89036c78_story.html?utm_term=.2e899791613b
https://www.weeklystandard.com/andr...-hacking-indictment-against-kremlin-officials


....and, of course, we will all enjoy the next round of indictments that will likely include Roger Stone, who was the primary conduit of the collusion

https://observer.com/2018/11/mueller-holding-dozens-sealed-indictments-intel-source/

....and, it could include JR??

Donald Trump Jr. Expecting to be Indicted by Mueller Soon

No, there is no evidence that the Russians changed votes in process (altered votes in the machine), but they clearly interfered in the US election (see indictments). Their efforts were largely to confuse / frustrate votes and suppress the vote for Clinton. The very skinny margin by which Trump won (80,000 votes over 3 states) suggests their effort may have changed the outcome....

As to what I believe..... I believe what the evidence tells us, both in existing and forthcoming indictments.

I also believe, and this is more a matter of conclusion, that Trump's net worth exists largely because of Russians..... without Russia, he would be broke, but that is another discussion.

 

[trouble13]

What the Russians did is well articulated in the two broad indictments thus far....

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/07/13/gru.indictment.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

Given that 92% of federal indictments result in convictions (indictments come after a high bar has been met)... the probabilities tell us this is far, far more likely true than not.

If you are not comfortable reading the actual indictments, you can enjoy the analysis:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/us/politics/mueller-indictment-russian-intelligence-hacking.html
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/clues-in-muellers-indictment-point-to-collusion
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...s-takeaways-mueller-s-new-indictments-n891356
http://time.com/5338451/rod-rosenstein-russian-indictment-transcript/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...3ce89036c78_story.html?utm_term=.2e899791613b
https://www.weeklystandard.com/andr...-hacking-indictment-against-kremlin-officials


....and, of course, we will all enjoy the next round of indictments that will likely include Roger Stone, who was the primary conduit of the collusion

https://observer.com/2018/11/mueller-holding-dozens-sealed-indictments-intel-source/

....and, it could include JR??

Donald Trump Jr. Expecting to be Indicted by Mueller Soon

No, there is no evidence that the Russians changed votes in process (altered votes in the machine), but they clearly interfered in the US election (see indictments). Their efforts were largely to confuse / frustrate votes and suppress the vote for Clinton. The very skinny margin by which Trump won (80,000 votes over 3 states) suggests their effort may have changed the outcome....

As to what I believe..... I believe what the evidence tells us, both in existing and forthcoming indictments.

I also believe, and this is more a matter of conclusion, that Trump's net worth exists largely because of Russians..... without Russia, he would be broke, but that is another discussion.

Im aware of the indictments and the allegations. I was asking what you believed so i have a better understanding of where youre coming from. Some people i know personally have told they believe the machines were hacked and the votes changed.

I personally am remaining ooen until we kearn more. I dont feel as if i have enough information to draw a conclusion yet.

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[Anarchon]

Yes as a group always, When the Republicans elected a hate candidate they became the hate party. If You belong to the Nazi party your guilty of what your party does. The president is the party they as a majority support this piece of trash then the party members are guilty of the actions that his hate group does.

You are judging an entire group by the actions of an individual. Don't you, as a "very liberal", also pretend to oppose discrimination? Your two ideologies are in conflict. You're irrational.

 

[jbander]

You are judging an entire group by the actions of an individual. Don't you, as a "very liberal", also pretend to oppose discrimination? Your two ideologies are in conflict. You're irrational.

Bull****, listen I can say that the hate party is conservative part , and you would call your party a conservative party. but everyone isn't conservative in your party. You put a hate candidate into office just the fact you did that makes it a hate party, This isn't rocket science. Your a hate party because you elected a hate candidate by a majority of your party. You belong to a hate party because a majority of your party are haters. That's rational. Scum Bag is you and you are scum bag.You own him and everything the piece of **** stands for . That's also rational. I'm judging you as a group because it the group you picked and it is a hate group. Even if the only traitor was Scum bag , you support a traitor , your a traitor yourself then. Own up to it. What ever the piece of **** leader of yours does is on you. Get it?

 

[Anarchon]

Bull****, listen I can say that the hate party is conservative part , and you would call your party a conservative party. but everyone isn't conservative in your party. You put a hate candidate into office just the fact you did that makes it a hate party, This isn't rocket science. Your a hate party because you elected a hate candidate by a majority of your party. You belong to a hate party because a majority of your party are haters. That's rational. Scum Bag is you and you are scum bag.You own him and everything the piece of **** stands for . That's also rational. I'm judging you as a group because it the group you picked and it is a hate group. Even if the only traitor was Scum bag , you support a traitor , your a traitor yourself then. Own up to it. What ever the piece of **** leader of yours does is on you. Get it?

I'm not a conservative. I didn't put anyone into office. I don't own Trump, nor is he my leader. Do you throw these incoherent, misplaced, temper tantrums in front of everyone that points out a flaw in your logic? If so, it must take up the majority of your time.

 

[nota bene]

You belong to the hate party , it's very easy on these sights to figure that out. You just thought it was just dandy while you scum bag party tore this country a part and now you little booger think that it is now time for harmony. That won't happen . The investigation begin now and your god and leader is as good as gone. Your a Hypocrite nothing else

I don't belong to a party. There is such terrible division in our country, division that is counterproductive. I'm hopeful that the two Houses will work together for the good of our nation and that a bit of conciliatory harmony will be restored. You post all this hyper-partisan stuff--blanket generalizations and hateful judgments about others--and don't see that you are part of the problem.

Some of the people with whom you disagree are very nice people. You can disagree with them without hating them.

 

[Gladiator]

I don't belong to a party. There is such terrible division in our country, division that is counterproductive. I'm hopeful that the two Houses will work together for the good of our nation and that a bit of conciliatory harmony will be restored. You post all this hyper-partisan stuff--blanket generalizations and hateful judgments about others--and don't see that you are part of the problem.

Some of the people with whom you disagree are very nice people. You can disagree with them without hating them.

An investigation into immigration could be conducted to see if there are policies that the US or UN could implement, to reduce the pressure for illegal immigration, Are the any inexpensive way to assist the economies and justice in countries from which illegal immigrants are higher I number or percentage? How can pressures for illegal immigration t the US from Honduras, for instance be alleviated?

'"Unauthorized Population 11,009,000 100%
Top Countries of Birth
Mexico 6,177,000 56%
Guatemala 723,000 7%
El Salvador 465,000 4%
Honduras 337,000 3%
China 268,000 2%



"legal temporary migrants, depending on whether they meet the qualifications for H-1B and the other temporary visa classifications. This method was developed in consultation with James Bachmeier of Temple University and Jennifer Van Hook of The Pennsylvania State University, Population Research Institute. For more detail on the methods, see Jeanne Batalova, Sarah Hooker, Randy Capps, and James D. Bachmeier, DACA at the Two-Year Mark: A National and State Profile of Youth Eligible and Applying for Deferred Action (Washington, DC: MPI, 2014). Please note that these estimates use commonly accepted benchmarks from other research studies to determine the size of the unauthorized population and response rates to surveys. These estimates have the same "


https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data/unauthorized-immigrant-population/state/US

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[mike2810]

Not even close ,The Democrats will be supported as long as the numbers to indite keeps on increasing and the people continue to be found guilty as many have already,being found guilty by the court or making deals. When scum bags Tax returns are shown to the public , the public will want answers. They will support endless investigations that find guilt. You think that the hate party doing it nonstop for 8 years was OK but somehow this isn't. The democrats will do nothing as blatantly stupid as you hate party did, with the 50 million, 7 years congressional investigation of Hillary Clinton, leaking lies every day. while finding her not guilty of the same charges 7 times over seven hate party run Congressional Investigations. Your hate group is going down, I promise you that.

It seems you are the one who is full of "hate".
Pelosi 2020, right? :lamo

 

[Gladiator]

Bull****, listen I can say that the hate party is conservative part , and you would call your party a conservative party. but everyone isn't conservative in your party. You put a hate candidate into office just the fact you did that makes it a hate party, This isn't rocket science. Your a hate party because you elected a hate candidate by a majority of your party. You belong to a hate party because a majority of your party are haters. That's rational. Scum Bag is you and you are scum bag.You own him and everything the piece of **** stands for . That's also rational. I'm judging you as a group because it the group you picked and it is a hate group. Even if the only traitor was Scum bag , you support a traitor , your a traitor yourself then. Own up to it. What ever the piece of **** leader of yours does is on you. Get it?

A topic for the Dem House to investigate might be how to improve the Affordable Care Act. Rates for individuals for health insurance are considered too high, How can individual health insurance rates be reduced?

Another topic for hearings could be the problems that might be created in the future, by an excessively high Federal deficit.

How about hearings on the trickle-down effect of tax cuts for the wealthy? How is that working? What would be a more fair and stimulating distribution of the US Tax burden? Which deductions help stimulate the economy? Is Home interest deduction a stimulating deduction?


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[Gladiator]

How about hearings on Veterans Health care, and PTSD issues?

 

[Roadvirus]

How about hearings on Veterans Health care, and PTSD issues?

Nah. If it doesn't make Trump look bad, the Dems won't care about it.

 

[Gladiator]

Nah. If it doesn't make Trump look bad, the Dems won't care about it.

How about hearings on US progress in Yemen, Afghanistan, Libya, etc.?

Hopefully the Dems are interested in effective solutions to real-world problems,


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[jbander]

Mueller will end his investigation with his own report to Rosenstein...and nothing will happen to Trump.

That's gonna chap your ass something fierce.

WE just got done taking away a large piece of you power we beat you bad, and with that we can go after him even after Mueller investigation if we want. Simple as that. You lose and buddy that is just the beginning.

 

[jbander]

Originally Posted by Anarchon View Post
You are judging an entire group by the actions of an individual. Don't you, as a "very liberal", also pretend to oppose discrimination? Your two ideologies are in conflict. You're irrational. Well I'm back and I just wanted to let you know that I dumped you, you don't contribute, you just waste bandwidth and we can't have that can we? BYE

 

[jbander]

A topic for the Dem House to investigate might be how to improve the Affordable Care Act. Rates for individuals for health insurance are considered too high, How can individual health insurance rates be reduced?

Another topic for hearings could be the problems that might be created in the future, by an excessively high Federal deficit.

How about hearings on the trickle-down effect of tax cuts for the wealthy? How is that working? What would be a more fair and stimulating distribution of the US Tax burden? Which deductions help stimulate the economy? Is Home interest deduction a stimulating deduction?


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Everything in your responce is hopeless till we get rid of this hate party and it's leader, unless you have some inside idea how it could be achieved. We literally are better using our energy in getting rid of this hate group and it's leader if we want to save this country and do what is right for this country,They are simply this countries biggest threat and enemy .

 

[jbander]

It seems you are the one who is full of "hate".
Pelosi 2020, right? :lamo

Well of course I'm a patriot I hate all the main enemy's and threats to my country, why, don't you? You simply have to be disposed of, your this country enemy , you sold out this republic for hate and power and we don't need you.

 

[jbander]

I don't belong to a party. There is such terrible division in our country, division that is counterproductive. I'm hopeful that the two Houses will work together for the good of our nation and that a bit of conciliatory harmony will be restored. You post all this hyper-partisan stuff--blanket generalizations and hateful judgments about others--and don't see that you are part of the problem.

Some of the people with whom you disagree are very nice people. You can disagree with them without hating them.

Not when they become this countries biggest threat and enemy, no time for love on them. They will get what they deserve but they have to go or we can kiss this Republic good bye.

 

[JoanDavis]

We should investigate if the Russians helped the dems retake the house

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LOL. The smiles and the thumbs up between Putin and trump in Paris clearly proves that the Russians have ZERO intention of helping the dems. And more proof - when the other world leaders marched in unity to honor the WW1 heroes, trump and putin rushed off to the hotel to have a 'special private' meeting. And of course there was noone else in the room - except a translator - so NOONE will know what top secret information trump gave putin.

 

[JoanDavis]

Not when they become this countries biggest threat and enemy, no time for love on them. They will get what they deserve but they have to go or we can kiss this Republic good bye.

The republikkkans have shown time and time again that they HATE everyone who isn't kissing trump's orange butt. So sorry Michelle - I am NOT gonna go high when they go low. I am gonna treat republikkkans the same way they treat liberals.

 

[Gladiator]

Everything in your responce is hopeless till we get rid of this hate party and it's leader, unless you have some inside idea how it could be achieved. We literally are better using our energy in getting rid of this hate group and it's leader if we want to save this country and do what is right for this country,They are simply this countries biggest threat and enemy .

To defeat Republicans in 2020, for the Presidency and the Senate, it seems important to defend Obama's policies when Democrats were in office. One way is to hold hearings on the issues of the day, and show how Obama did a better job than Trump, and the Republicans today. Trade policies that foster higher illegal immigration are stupid, for instance.

 

[Fledermaus]

Well I'm back and I just wanted to let you know that I dumped you, you don't contribute, you just waste bandwidth and we can't have that can we? BYE

What does that mean?

He is still here and posting.

 

[Fledermaus]

Well of course I'm a patriot I hate all the main enemy's and threats to my country, why, don't you? You simply have to be disposed of, your this country enemy , you sold out this republic for hate and power and we don't need you.

We have to be "disposed of"?

Sounds kinda hateful..

 

[Fledermaus]

The republikkkans have shown time and time again that they HATE everyone who isn't kissing trump's orange butt. So sorry Michelle - I am NOT gonna go high when they go low. I am gonna treat republikkkans the same way they treat liberals.

Awwwww

Republikkkans.

How original.

You are becoming jbander lite. And that ain't good.

 

[mike2810]

Well of course I'm a patriot I hate all the main enemy's and threats to my country, why, don't you? You simply have to be disposed of, your this country enemy , you sold out this republic for hate and power and we don't need you.

You must be trolling. You have nothing to back up what you just posted.
Have a good one. Your post are not worth any more response on this thread.