Mattis takes swipe at Trump in new book

[Condor060]

Oh, so you are of the opinion what you write is comprehendible. :2rofll:

It certainly is for you. No question there.

Now, who's having trouble "comprehending", "MY" point is that in spite of your CLAIMED love of General (to you) Mattis you had NO COMPUCTION defaming his good name so you could devolve into you modus operendi of throwing any hatred and "**** in general" at liberals; or as you call besmirching for supposed hypocrisy you haven't proven.

AGAIN, FOR THE SECOND TIME. I only posted Liberal news articles. I didn't post any negative opinion of mine towards Mattis.
Again with the barking on command before you even have a clue to what you're barking about.

Sounds like you have some hatred for the Liberal papers that were printing this information. Maybe that was my point. ya think? just maybe? Get a clue.

So don't throw your liberal hatred at me, I would be working equally hard to rid our country of this incompetent fool we have for pResident if there were no such thing as a liberal.

Again, what does that even have to do with the discussion? Lets us know when you get off unicorn island.

 

[Condor060]

That's absurd. Dems criticized Romney, but we didn't hate him when repub nominated him for prez. In fact, most of the reportage on Mattis was good, he was seen as an "adult in the room".

Sure, you'll scrounge around the landscape and find a few criticisms so you can levy that against the entire left, which is disingenuous and reveals, if anything, your hatred of the left.

Physician heal thyself.

I posted the articles surrounding Mattis after his confirmation. They were not my opinions. Point is, he was despised when he joined the Trump team but beloved when he said something about Trump the left liked. Not sure why this typical behavior is a surprise.

 

[Irwin Corey]

AGAIN, FOR THE SECOND TIME. I only posted Liberal news articles. I didn't post any negative opinion of mine towards Mattis.[/quote}

AGAIN, FOR THE THIRD TIME. You didn't cite your posts so how would we know. AND dredging up old attacks on someone doesn't show much "love"

Again with the barking on command before you even have a clue to what you're barking about.

Again, with the personal attacks when you're losing and argument.

Sounds like you have some hatred for the Liberal papers that were printing this information.

I have no time for hatred, there is too much of it in this Country already (evidence … YOU).

Maybe that was my point. ya think? just maybe? Get a clue.

Maybe? You don't really know … do you? "Get a clue"; yep, you should, though I don't think you could buy one even if Vanna was your big sister.

 

[Condor060]

AGAIN, FOR THE THIRD TIME. You didn't cite your posts so how would we know. AND dredging up old attacks on someone doesn't show much "love"

Now you're just lying like you did in the other 3 post.

I for one love ole Mad Dog. He was an excellent commander in war and one of this countries most brilliant strategist in history. I have to admit I am now confused about the sudden Liberal support and love for Mattis. When he was confirmed he was reported by the Liberal media as a war monger and baby killer but he gives a few quotes about who you perceive to be Trump and he becomes an American hero all over again.

Quotes from several Liberal news outlets once Mattis was confirmed.

Again with that barking dog comprehension problem.

I can't wait for this excuse.

 

[Irwin Corey]

Now you're just lying like you did in the other 3 post.

Again with that barking dog comprehension problem.

I can't wait for this excuse.

I obviously wasn't "lying" all you have are personal attacks.<-- period, but in the end that's all you ever have and always end up resorting to. poor you.

There is no excuse for your arguments, you never have one.

 

[Condor060]

I obviously wasn't "lying" all you have are personal attacks.<-- period, but in the end that's all you ever have and always end up resorting to. poor you.

There is no excuse for your arguments, you never have one.

A simple,

(Sorry, I was wrong. I didn't mean to continually accuse you of hating everything Liberal, hating Mattis, disparaging your fellow Americans, your derangement, hysteria and misery over Trump, because I didn't actually read the part in your very first post that said (Quotes from several Liberal news outlets on Mattis) and then accused you of all those things by mistake.)

That might be sufficient.

 

[Irwin Corey]

A simple,

(Sorry, I was wrong. I didn't mean to continually accuse you of hating everything Liberal, hating Mattis, disparaging your fellow Americans, your derangement, hysteria and misery over Trump, because I didn't actually read the part in your very first post that said (Quotes from several Liberal news outlets on Mattis) and then accused you of all those things by mistake.)

I don't find those words in my first post to this thread (#7) or my first reply to you (#17).

That might be sufficient.

Sure, apology accepted.

 

[Rich2018]

They were discussing this on Morning Joe. Mattis is a true patriot. He puts country first every day of the week. Watch the citizens of Trump Fan Nation bash Mattis from one end to the other. Mattis did the unforgivable - he put country ahead of the Donald. That is verboten.

He should say more clearly what he meant.

Maybe his honor meant that he should save his comments for when his former boss is no longer C-in-C ?

 

[VanceMack]

Trump discounting a great military leader like Mattis is his 2nd greatest failing as president, 2nd only to his failure to control spending.

 

[SoCal]

I for one love ole Mad Dog. He was an excellent commander in war and one of this countries most brilliant strategist in history. I have to admit I am now confused about the sudden Liberal support and love for Mattis. When he was confirmed he was reported by the Liberal media as a war monger and baby killer but he gives a few quotes about who you perceive to be Trump and he becomes an American hero all over again...

I didn't agree with many of his policies, but I generally agree with you on Mattis. He's well respected by our military and has a well deserved reputation of being an honorable man. I don't remember reading anything from the, "Liberal Media", about him being a war monger and baby killer. Do you have a link?

Why are you confused about the continued support of Mattis, by anyone who's not a Trump supporter? You seem to have some respect and admiration for Mattis. He's not know for misleading or lying, yet he, "says bad things", about Don. If you actually love ole Mad Dog, why would you question his opinion of Don?!? Would you actually take the word and instead believe the spilness turd in the WH over Mattis? Get a grip.

Now Liberals have forgotten how much they hated Mattis and are having a love fest because he says bad things about Trump?...

I have a big problem with Mattis' namby pamby response to questions about the competency of Don. He knows what Don is, it's the reason he quit and the reason he also has my respect. But his duty of silence was over when he left government, it's time he told the world the truth about Numnuts, or as you would say, "bad things"...

 

[Condor060]

I didn't agree with many of his policies, but I generally agree with you on Mattis. He's well respected by our military and has a well deserved reputation of being an honorable man. I don't remember reading anything from the, "Liberal Media", about him being a war monger and baby killer. Do you have a link?

Why are you confused about the continued support of Mattis, by anyone who's not a Trump supporter? You seem to have some respect and admiration for Mattis. He's not know for misleading or lying, yet he, "says bad things", about Don. If you actually love ole Mad Dog, why would you question his opinion of Don?!? Would you actually take the word and instead believe the spilness turd in the WH over Mattis? Get a grip.

You are misreading my post. I think the world of Mattis and if he doesn't like Trump it has no bearing on my opinion of him. I am sure he has his reasons and as a former military officer I would follow him anywhere. No questions asked. He is the genuine article.

My post is about those who criticized Mattis of which I posted the actual articles about him when he was confirmed but once Mattis had a foul word for Trump these same people want to fawn all over him.

I don't like the hypocrisy.

 

[DiAnna]

You are misreading my post. I think the world of Mattis and if he doesn't like Trump it has no bearing on my opinion of him. I am sure he has his reasons and as a former military officer I would follow him anywhere. No questions asked. He is the genuine article.

My post is about those who criticized Mattis of which I posted the actual articles about him when he was confirmed but once Mattis had a foul word for Trump these same people want to fawn all over him.

I don't like the hypocrisy.

Then don't indulge in it.

 

[Condor060]

Then don't indulge in it.

Oh, Ok, So informative.

 

[EnigmaO01]

I'm sorry I just can't respect anyone that would work for Trump and put up with his bs more than one day.

 

[Memestrels]

How long until Trump is tweeting about Mattis being "weak" and a "loser."

 

[SoCal]

You are misreading my post. I think the world of Mattis and if he doesn't like Trump it has no bearing on my opinion of him. I am sure he has his reasons and as a former military officer I would follow him anywhere. No questions asked. He is the genuine article.

My post is about those who criticized Mattis of which I posted the actual articles about him when he was confirmed but once Mattis had a foul word for Trump these same people want to fawn all over him.

I don't like the hypocrisy.

I still haven't seen any links, or heard any foul words on this site, or in the major media. I, along with millions of others have criticized Mattis over his opposition allowing women to serve in combat positions (for example) and thank our lucky stars, jump for joy, say Hallelujah, or otherwise fawn over him for having the moral character to stand up to Numnuts. That does not make us hypocrites.

There's also that old proverb, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". This is also reflected in the new found love the Republican party and NRA now have for Putin. Before conservatives started fawning over Trump, Repubs were the hawks on Russia, Mattis in particular. Regardless if he asked for it or not, Putin helped Don in 16' and our intelligence services tells us it'll happen again in 20'. I think it's disgusting and un-American, but I can understand the motivation behind the deafening silence of the former Republican hawks on Russia...

 

[joko104]

Another person trying to make a pile of money by writing a book and attacking President Trump. They can make millions off all the Trump haters rushing to buy the book - because they still haven't heard and read enough hate-on-Trump yet. :roll:

Mattis wanted lots and lots more troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. President Trump wouldn't do it.

ALL generals always want more troops in a combat zone. If the military ran wars, we would be at war everywhere, all the time, forever.

 

[joko104]

Mattis did not criticize the president, the OP is false.

Mattis said he doesn't like polemicists. Of course not. Generally doesn't like it if anyone expresses disagreement, which is what a polemicist is.

EVERYONE posting on this forum is a "polemicist." ALL politicians are polemists, certainly all Democratic candidates are to the extreme. Mattis doesn't like you or any of them.

He doesn't like anyone who engages in controversy or debate. He only likes people who follows orders from authority without question. Thus, his view is that everyone should do exactly what President Trump says because he is commander-in-chief. Everyone should have immediately done anything he said - and maybe he and Trump bumped heads of that.

Mattis outright says he can NOT handle any "debate" about anything. Just orders given = orders followed. No discussion. No disagreements.

Simply put, Mattis could not tolerate politics because everyone in political activity is a "polemicist." He expected what he said to be done without anyone questioning it. That's how the Marine's work. You do what you are ordered to do, never mind why and NO backtalk about it either!

 

[joko104]

Trump discounting a great military leader like Mattis is his 2nd greatest failing as president, 2nd only to his failure to control spending.

Unlike you, apparently, I agree with the US Constitution for civilian control of the military.

How did President Trump "discount" Mattis? By not turning over being Commander-In-Chief to Mattis? I can not recall ANYTHING critical Trump ever said about Mattis.

But it is YOUR claim. How did President Trump "discount" Mattis? Be specific.

 

[Fletch]

I'm a little rusty on Ven diagrams, but I'll just bet, if you drew one, that "DP liberals" are subset of "liberals"; at least most of them. SO == not a lie.

Yes but DP liberals just parrot things they hear on TV. So if Don Lemon criticized Mattis, you can bet that there were 5-10 liberals here repeating then exact same criticism

 

[Oborosen]

Yes but DP liberals just parrot things they hear on TV. So if Don Lemon criticized Mattis, you can bet that there were 5-10 liberals here repeating then exact same criticism

A good portion of them don't even need to actually read anything. Most of the time, just seeing the headline is enough for them to make up their minds of a single subject.

 

[Oborosen]

You are misreading my post. I think the world of Mattis and if he doesn't like Trump it has no bearing on my opinion of him. I am sure he has his reasons and as a former military officer I would follow him anywhere. No questions asked. He is the genuine article.

My post is about those who criticized Mattis of which I posted the actual articles about him when he was confirmed but once Mattis had a foul word for Trump these same people want to fawn all over him.

I don't like the hypocrisy.

That's about the same way I feel about Bill Maher.

 

[Fletch]

Mattis takes swipe at Trump in new book: "I did as well as I could for as long as I could"

“Nations with allies thrive, and those without them wither. Alone, America cannot protect our people and our economy. At this time, we can see storm clouds gathering.”

Gen. (Ret.) James "Chaos" Mattis USMC.



Well done Sir, although I wish you would have countered this internal existential threat to America more robustly.

This isnt exactly news seeing as how he said much the same thing in his resignation letter. And if those excerpts are the sharpest attacks he has against Trump, then it aint much. Remaining in Syria seemed to be the tipping point. Mattis wanted to stay, Trump wanted out. Getting out was the right call.

 

[Logician Man]

Mattis did not criticize the president, the OP is false.

Mattis said he doesn't like polemicists. Of course not. Generally doesn't like it if anyone expresses disagreement, which is what a polemicist is.

EVERYONE posting on this forum is a "polemicist." ALL politicians are polemists, certainly all Democratic candidates are to the extreme. Mattis doesn't like you or any of them.

He doesn't like anyone who engages in controversy or debate. He only likes people who follows orders from authority without question. Thus, his view is that everyone should do exactly what President Trump says because he is commander-in-chief. Everyone should have immediately done anything he said - and maybe he and Trump bumped heads of that.

Mattis outright says he can NOT handle any "debate" about anything. Just orders given = orders followed. No discussion. No disagreements.

Simply put, Mattis could not tolerate politics because everyone in political activity is a "polemicist." He expected what he said to be done without anyone questioning it. That's how the Marine's work. You do what you are ordered to do, never mind why and NO backtalk about it either!

When, and how long did YOU serve in the marines ?

 

[Irwin Corey]

Yes but DP liberals just parrot things they hear on TV. So if Don Lemon criticized Mattis, you can bet that there were 5-10 liberals here repeating then exact same criticism

I don't see how that's and argument against my post; but if it makes you feel better.

On the other hand I've seen, by following links provided, that you can pretty much tell what the head lines are on the Conservative News outlets by what you and your buddies are posting; so it seems to go both ways.