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Massive Overreach by Biden Whitehouse With FBI Raid

It's been 36 hours since the raid. "Well past time"? Yup. I remember you posting just that about Hillary Clinton. Good thing too, because if you hadn't, that would make you a massive hypocrite.
If I'm going to be a hypocrit, I'll go massive for sure.

But I have to get on with the day here now. I'll go massive later on.
 
We've had about 15 different threads and 1,000's of posts since this search warrant was executed, and I've yet to read a single Trump defender attempt to explain why Trump apparently took up to 50 boxes of classified documents from the White House to Mar o Lago?

You folks offer tons of supposed knowledge as to what the government is or isn't doing with regard to this? So you obviously think you are in the know.

So answer the question: why did he take the classified documents?
 
You have to prove that they didn't follow the process that was outlined in the Constitution, which you obviously never read.

Why did you lie about Lara Trump claiming they don't have the warrant? She said no such thing.
Watch hannity
 
Watch hannity

Post the link to "Hannity". She was on Carlson last night. I posted the link to her whining segment. She never once said they don't have a copy of the warrant.

Ball is in your court to back up your claim or admit you lied.
 
We've had about 15 different threads and 1,000's of posts since this search warrant was executed, and I've yet to read a single Trump defender attempt to explain why Trump apparently took up to 50 boxes of classified documents from the White House to Mar o Lago?

You folks offer tons of supposed knowledge as to what the government is or isn't doing with regard to this? So you obviously think you are in the know.

So answer the question: why did he take the classified documents?

He hid the password to his child porn stash somewhere in there. It took six months to go through every page and then he couldn't find it which is real bad because the encrypted stash is in the archives he didn't get, and if someone finds the password in the paper files ... Rudy suggested "those vids with you in them, maybe you could claim it's an actor in a Trump mask?" but even Rudy didn't sound so sure. But they're the team who killed Epstein, they can do anything.
 
What? I'm busy just now changing pronouns. Besides, I'm smarter than you, and better looking, too. I have papers. The Beagle pup may have peed on 'em, but papers just the same. I should check.

If you watch only footage of Biden making gaffes, then you're being conned into thinking he's senile. The man has always made gaffes, it reflects only on the verbal part of his brain and not the executive.

Or you're using the word "senile" just to mean "old, and not as smart as he used to be" but if you're old yourself, I don't see why you'd do that. I'm in my mid-50's and admit I'm not as smart as I was, but there's a world of difference between that, and having a degenerative disease.
 
Even if they searched without asking politely first, it remains a massively dumb move for Trump to hold onto documents for seven months. Ignorance of the law is no defense, but more to the point, ignorance of the law when Trump has lawyers, is just plain dumb.

Though politically it might seem smart, making Trump a victim of the "deep state", the number of people who still care about that nonsense is nowhere near enough to get him elected. Perhaps he's milking his base for yet more money ... well I hope so. Suckers.
7 months? You mean 18 months.
Perhaps 7 months since he was reminded that he still had documents that belonged to the National Archives. But 18 months since he's been hanging on documents that he illegally removed from the white house.

And while Trump and his minions obviously will continue to play the martyr card, like you say, there aren't enough to get him elected. Could you imagine this clown in a round of presidential debates? The amount of information available to bury him?
 
This raid was carried out in the name of retrieving documents for the national archives.
Many past presidents have left office with documents that were wanted by the national archives, but never suffered any raids.
Even the Obamas had documents that were wanted by the national archives. Nobody raided them.


And here I was hoping that it was all about getting a smoking gun related to Jan 6 that would nail Don the Con to the wall. What a waste of glee.
 
7 months? You mean 18 months.
Perhaps 7 months since he was reminded that he still had documents that belonged to the National Archives. But 18 months since he's been hanging on documents that he illegally removed from the white house.

Silly me, you're right. Still it was just a joke, the details don't matter.

And while Trump and his minions obviously will continue to play the martyr card, like you say, there aren't enough to get him elected. Could you imagine this clown in a round of presidential debates? The amount of information available to bury him?

I'd prefer if he doesn't make the debates, because he will bring in primary voters who will then spill to DeSantis. But there's no way of stopping him: even if he is somehow disqualified from serving, Republicans are too spineless to ban him. For one thing, he'd run independent (he could do that even if disqualified to serve; there is no safety valve for the constitutional crisis if he's elected) and as an independent he would wreck the Republican. So I expect he'll be in the debates and the primaries.
 
These "raid" threads are getting more ridiculous with every post. Trumpers want to ignore the fact that the DOJ had to prove there was a reason to go to Mar A Lago to get the documents and a judge agreed so a lawful court order was executed. This was not ordered by the White House, it was Trump's own appointed DOJ that put this in motion. He had ample opportunities to return the documents and keep this from happening but his fragile ego wouldn't allow it.

Trumpers, settle down, you have no idea of the facts yet so why not just see how this plays out before you once again get caught by surprise and made to look like fools. Wonder of they found his long promised health care plan while they were looking?
 
This raid was carried out in the name of retrieving documents for the national archives.
Many past presidents have left office with documents that were wanted by the national archives, but never suffered any raids.
Even the Obamas had documents that were wanted by the national archives. Nobody raided them.


Can you provide a reputable cite backing up your claim that other Presidents took classified material after there time in office.

Specifically your claim about Obama

Cite up!!
 
This raid was carried out in the name of retrieving documents for the national archives.
Many past presidents have left office with documents that were wanted by the national archives, but never suffered any raids.
Even the Obamas had documents that were wanted by the national archives. Nobody raided them.


You realize Sky News UK is a Murdoch entity? Therefore i will put zero stock in the report.
 
If they thought asking for the documents would work they would not have gotten a warrant to search.
The goverment did ask Trump for return of the documents, they belong to the US Repository. Trump did not return what is not his, therefore the US Goverment took back what belongs to them.
 
If the number of times Trump is mentioned here at DP is any indication, the political left here, the DOJ, congress, and the WH care a whole bunch about Trump. Why is that?
Because Trump interjects himself daily to stay relevant.
 
Very cool. I didn't realize that you authored the warrant, @sanman. Since Donald has refused thus far to release it, would you mind posting a copy here so that we finally can read for ourselves the reason for the raid, in your own words no less? This is pretty exciting; it's not often that we get direct access to someone like you who was right in the middle of all this and therefore knew exactly what went down and, more importantly, why.

Also, since you apparently wrote the warrant, why did you think the 'raid' was merited? And, logically, does this make you a RINO?
But... But... Hunters laptop

🙄
 
Got to love the whining from the right. They know Trump is guilty, so this type of pathetic nonsense is all the they have.

Go pull up all the posts about Clinton investigation and the Republican assholes praising it, comments that nobody is above the law. Hillary testified for a long time, and nobody ducked supeona's and Democrats knew it was garbage. Republicans know its true, so here come the pathetic lies.

Must suck being wrong about every single thing in life, no wonder why right wingers are such miserable pricks
 
They will all just swear the WH lied. This is where we are these days. I am glad to see the long arm of the law finally clamping down.

They say they want a civil war, let em have it. Who are they going to fight? The democrats don't want a civil war. Are they going to attack FBI HQ, the WH? DOJ HQ? These people are childish fools. They'll be met with a fury from our police and military.

It's all just a bunch of bluster and BS designed to instill fear. It's not working on me.

Plus, they are absolute cowards, they won't do shit. THEy act and talk tough, but they are giant ******s
 
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The goverment did ask Trump for return of the documents, they belong to the US Repository. Trump did not return what is not his, therefore the US Goverment took back what belongs to them.

More exactly, Trump did return 15 boxes in January, because he was asked to. But the reports I'm reading are that there were another 12 boxes taken in the raid. Someone there supposedly informed the FBI, and it all seems so amateur on Trump's part I'm starting to suspect it was a "honey trap" and the recent boxes have nothing Federal in them at all. If that's so, Trump's people would have secured everything interesting from the safe, off the property somewhere.

Hopefully Trump's people slipped up and left a stolen painting on a wall or something. That would be more politically damaging to Trump than classified papers, because he couldn't conspiracy-theory his way out of it. Or resort to "but her emails".
 
Post the link to "Hannity". She was on Carlson last night. I posted the link to her whining segment. She never once said they don't have a copy of the warrant.

Ball is in your court to back up your claim or admit you lied.
Here, I'll give the pathetic right wing argument forthem.

Go find their argument for them www.google.com

Hint: They have no argument, they are factless and have nothing but their political hackery, I'm quite embarrassed for these people
 
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