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'Maryland man' Kilmar Abrego Garcia exposed in police records as 'violent' repeat wife beater (1 Viewer)

stealthycat said:
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Yes, in the USA, individuals, including green card holders, can be deported for terrorist affiliation or activities. U.S. law allows deportation of non-citizens if they are associated with terrorism or pose a threat to national security, as determined by the Secretary of State and Attorney General. Specifically, individuals can be deported for engaging in terrorist activities, inciting such activities, representing a terrorist organization, or endorsing/espousing terrorism.
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This particular individual was not a terrorist and posed no threat.

You're making excuses for blatant abuse.
 
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ModernDiogenes said:
It is frighteningly apparent some present have no knowledge of those protections, who they apply to or worse, no ethical consideration for others who they deem unworthy of those considerations for whatever reason.
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I think that they understand… they just don’t care.

But because we all know that it is antithetical to the foundation of American values, the funhouse mirror world version has to be repeated because if that version is the last to take hold then it will be the new reality and they will be right and the cognitive dissonance goes away.
 
Jezcoe said:
One thing about fascism and strong men… they have no problem hurting innocent people if they can be seen as being men of action.
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One of the earlier posts talked about how Bukele has a 90% approval rating, and all I could think was, 'That's probably because 50% of the population who disapproved are in prison.'
 
Michael Cole said:
No, he wasn't deported. He was incarcerated.

Venezuelans were shipped to this prison. Were they deported? Does Trump know where Venezuela is?
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don't know, don't care too much

he's El Salvadorian born, citizenship

he's home
 
ModernDiogenes said:
I am APPALLED at the lack of clarity, understanding and ethical consideration of some present in regard to what would be considered grade school understanding of how our Constitutional guarantees of due process work.

It is frighteningly apparent some present have no knowledge of those protections, who they apply to or worse, no ethical consideration for others who they deem unworthy of those considerations for whatever reason.

I mean it is a reasonable question. Is it that one one does not know they get the same rights as everyone else to due process, OR is it that you know that but just don't care?
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You didn't know? From reading all these threads you don't get due process if 1. your brown 2. have tattoos 3. people say you are a terrorist 4. people say your a gang member 5. people say you beat your wife 6. we don't agree with you 7. you voice any support for the previous 6 categories. You support brown people with tattoos? No soup for you!
 
Xilnik said:
One of the earlier posts talked about how Bukele has a 90% approval rating, and all I could think was 'That's probably because 50% of the population who disapproved are in prison.'
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A book that I recently read about crypto currency titled “Easy Money: Cryptocurrency, casino Capitalism and the golden age of fraud” has a couple of sections about El Salvador and Bukele.

It also had a little section about the author having an interaction with a man who was imprisoned by Bukele because of his tattoos.

The only reason this man got released was because he had a substantial social media presence.
 
Jezcoe said:
Let us please stop pretending that this was a simple deportation.
The US sent him to be imprisoned.
So what did this man do that deserved prison?
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gang affiliation IIRC
 
ColdHardTruth said:
This particular individual was not a terrorist and posed no threat.

You're making excuses for blatant abuse.
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I disagree, and ICE and our Fed Govt deported a non-US citizens affiliated with gangs/terrorist gangs

I'm ok with deporting them
 
stealthycat said:
gang affiliation IIRC
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As proved to an Article III judge?

You know… the part of our constitutional system that has the authority to sentence people to prison.

We both know the answer.

So let’s stop pretending
 
stealthycat said:
gang affiliation IIRC
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Bullshit. I debunked that in a comment to you 15 pages ago.
Post #368 (corrected transposed numbers)

'Maryland man' Kilmar Abrego Garcia exposed in police records as 'violent' repeat wife beater

I read through the whole thread and nobody posted that not one but 2 courts ruled this man a member of MS-13. Trump designated MS-13 a terrorist organization therefore the man is not entitled to due process for the deportation. That is not difficult to understand. Because of a baseball hat…...
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Cosmo said:
It's literally from the El Salvador President himself:







Tell/ask the President of El Salvador that. I doubt he posts on this board.


How the hell would I know?

It's a foreign country detaining a foreigner they think is a terrorist. Do you dig this much into every such case?
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What do you think would happen if we stopped paying El Salvador? Most haven’t committed crimes in El Salvador. They would have to let them go. Or just probably kill them. It is El Salvador after all. I imagine you’re just fine with that.
 
stealthycat said:
don't know, don't care too much
he's El Salvadorian born, citizenship
he's home
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He's married to a U.S. citizen with whom he's had a child. His home is the U.S.
 
stealthycat said:
don't know, don't care too much

he's El Salvadorian born, citizenship

he's home
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He's legally in the US. See post 368. Again.

Why do you keep posting lies?

'Maryland man' Kilmar Abrego Garcia exposed in police records as 'violent' repeat wife beater

I read through the whole thread and nobody posted that not one but 2 courts ruled this man a member of MS-13. Trump designated MS-13 a terrorist organization therefore the man is not entitled to due process for the deportation. That is not difficult to understand. Because of a baseball hat…...
debatepolitics.com debatepolitics.com
 
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Cosmo said:
It's literally from the El Salvador President himself:

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Oh, I understand he's said this, but there is no law Garcia has ever broken in El Salvador. If he has, feel free to cite it. You are aware leaders can just make things up, right?
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Cosmo said:
Tell/ask the President of El Salvador that. I doubt he posts on this board.
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That's ok. I'd rather take it up with the government who sent someone to a foreign prison in error, and who is also paying El Salvador to house people there.
 
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