'Maryland man' Kilmar Abrego Garcia exposed in police records as 'violent' repeat wife beater (2 Viewers)

[Hello My Son]

Come back when you actually learn to believe in something, Hello My Son.

I believe you're making self-contradicting and extremely confused posts.

Why don't you want Garcia to be back home with his kid?

 

[dobieg]

When a Democrat is president, they should declare you a violent illegal who beats women and give the same due process and treatment.

As soon as my wife files a police report stating I touched her you're more than welcome.

Imo any man who beats their wife, repeatedly, deserves to get a nice long vacation to sunny El Salvadore.

 

[Lutherf]

The new poster child for the left. A brutal wife beater.

Congratulations dumbasses.

'Maryland man' Kilmar Abrego Garcia exposed in police records as 'violent' repeat wife beater

The Department of Homeland Security released court records it says proves Salvadoran migrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a member of the infamous MS-13 gang.

www.foxnews.com

The left doesn't care. The guy got deported and that's ALL they care about. Their goal is to validate their hatred of Trump and they will ignore anything and everything that is evidence that their reality isn't THE reality.

 

[Cosmo]

There is that pretending again.



Literally everyone.



I keep saying that conservatives believe in nothing.

I keep getting proven right.

You keep revising the story and excluding necessary parts to support your argument.

 

[ElChupacabra]

That's it. Defend the wife beater.

The efforts to deflect by the administration are comical, and they count on gullible parrots to do their work for them. Now, no one will condone domestic abuse, but there were no charges filed and the family went for counseling after and there have been no reported incidents since then. The relevant question here is what does it have to do with the fact the US erroneously deported someone to a prison despite that person not having been convicted of crimes here, or in El Salvador.

Maybe you can find some pics of him flipping off nuns, or yelling at kittens too. The problem is it has bugger all to do with the government's colossal screw up and their ridiculous double down on all sorts of stupid to try and deflect from the basic facts of this case.

 

[Questerr]

As soon as my wife files a police report stating I touched her you're more than welcome.

Imo any man who beats their wife, repeatedly, deserves to get a nice long vacation to sunny El Salvadore.

Nope. No due process needed. That includes police reports. The Democratic president will just have secret police grab you off the street and disappear you to a foreign prison.

You want the president to have that power, right?

 

[Felis Leo]

Do you have the first clue about domestic violence?

Yes. I am work in family law and I regularly deal with child custody cases and domestic violence restraining order cases regularly. Women and men drop restraining orders all the time and go back into relationships where there was abuse. Sometimes the abuse continues. Sometimes it stops.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

I'd be fine with it if I didn't get tagged for every little thing I say.

When you throw shit at people, what do you expect in return?

 

[dobieg]

The left doesn't care. The guy got deported and that's ALL they care about. Their goal is to validate their hatred of Trump and they will ignore anything and everything that is evidence that their reality isn't THE reality.

Absolutely!

Still have not had a single liberal condemn this guy. Not one.

 

[dobieg]

Yes. I am work in family law and I regularly deal with child custody cases and domestic violence restraining order cases regularly. Women and men drop restraining orders all the time and go back into relationships where there was abuse. Sometimes the abuse continues. Sometimes it stops.

Noble profession. I could never do what you do.

How often does the violence stop.

 

[dobieg]

When you throw shit at people, what do you expect in return?

Sort of a two way street wouldn't you say?

 

[Felis Leo]

The left doesn't care. The guy got deported and that's ALL they care about. Their goal is to validate their hatred of Trump and they will ignore anything and everything that is evidence that their reality isn't THE reality.

No, the man was deported with no due process to a foreign Gulag at the American taxpayer's expense. That it was done under the auspices of Trump is irrelevant to me. It would be heinous if done under any president.

 

[Hello My Son]

Yes. I am work in family law and I regularly deal with child custody cases and domestic violence restraining order cases regularly. Women and men drop restraining orders all the time and go back into relationships where there was abuse. Sometimes the abuse continues. Sometimes it stops.

And the kids definitely feel safe when their dad goes back into the home after those restraining orders are lifted.

 

[Jezcoe]

You keep revising the story and excluding necessary parts to support your argument.

I am simply cutting through the bullshit.

He wasn’t sent to El Salvador and oopsie he ended up in CECOT. He was sent by the US Government to be put into CECOT.

So basically the argument is that the US government had the power to pick people up off the street and send them to a black hole prison in another country without them committing a crime, being charged with a crime, or a trial to determine if a crime has been committed, and once they are there there is nothing we can do about it.

Why would anyone want the government to have that power?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Sort of a two way street wouldn't you say?

Certainly can be, but shit throwers have to be prepared to have shit thrown back at them, don’t you agree?

 

[Felis Leo]

Noble profession. I could never do what you do.

How often does the violence stop.

When the abuser is put under the spotlight of the Court? Pretty often. Especially when the abuser actually goes through their 52-week batterer's program and anger management programs.

Lots of guys who are abusers do not want to be abusers. For many of them, that is all they know, often because they were severely abused themselves when they were younger. But they are not sociopaths.

 

[dobieg]

Certainly can be, but shit throwers have to be prepared to have shit thrown back at them, don’t you agree?

Absolutely.


And yes, I know what I am.

 

[dobieg]

When the abuser is put under the spotlight of the Court? Pretty often. Especially when the abuser actually goes through their 52-week batterer's program and anger management programs.

Lots of guys who are abusers do not want to be abusers. For many of them, that is all they know, often because they were severely abused themselves when they were younger. But they are not sociopaths.

Sounds completely different from everything I know and have witnessed.

In my experience it's usually about control and power. And a person like that doesn't usually seem inclined to change their nature.

Evil ****s.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Absolutely!

Still have not had a single liberal condemn this guy. Not one.

It's nice that this is the car you've chosen to catch, but it's a red herring and you know it. None of this has anything to do with the original issue. This is laughably absurd, and a cheap deflection to avoid discussing the original problem.

 

[dobieg]

It's nice that this is the car you've chosen to catch, but it's a red herring and you know it. None of this has anything to do with the original issue. This is laughably absurd, and a cheap deflection to avoid discussing the original problem.

As clear as that may be in your mind my view is even more clear in mine.

You may be sitting there shaking your head. I'm here completely purplexed.

 

[Felis Leo]

Sounds completely different from everything I know and have witnessed.

In my experience it's usually about control and power. And a person like that doesn't usually seem inclined to change their nature.

Evil ****s.

I don't doubt it. Many abusers want to change, and end up breaking the cycle of abuse. But many, many abusers do not change. I have just seen a lot of domestic violence cases in my last decade of practice and have seen the "happy" stories of guys who stop resorting to physical and emotional abuse to get what they want out of life.

 

[dobieg]

I don't doubt it. Many abusers want to change, and end up breaking the cycle of abuse. But many, many abusers do not change. I have just seen a lot of domestic violence cases in my last decade of practice and have seen the "happy" stories.

That is nice to hear.

My experience wasn't so positive. Being young and helpless to protect someone you love is something that can scar a person for life.

 

[ElChupacabra]

As clear as that may be in your mind my view is even more clear in mine.

You may be sitting there shaking your head. I'm here completely purplexed.

Probably because you're parroting irrelevant issues in the case, but that's for you to sort out. I'm going off the facts of this case, and now with the administration taking this new course, I'd rather go by what his wife has said about this new deflection:

After surviving domestic violence in a previous relationship, I acted out of caution after a disagreement with Kilmar by seeking a civil protective order in case things escalated. Things did not escalate, and I decided not to follow through with the civil court process. We were able to work through this situation privately as a family, including by going to counseling. Our marriage only grew stronger in the years that followed. No one is perfect, and no marriage is perfect. That is not a justification for ICE's action of abducting him and deporting him to a country where he was supposed to be protected from deportation. Kilmar has always been a loving partner and father, and I will continue to stand by him and demand justice for him.

So while you're focused on the protection order, you're completely avoiding the crux of this case which was the government erroneously deporting someone, and instead make it about whether that person deserves the effort to be freed. That displays a warped view on the actual problem, and that centers around the government's ability to do something like this with no accountability whatsoever, and moreover, ignore court rulings. The administration's doing a bait and switch because they want to focus to be on Garcia and not their massive error. The worst part is Garcia isn't the only person in this situation, he just happens to be the one most discussed.

 

[Hello My Son]

Sounds completely different from everything I know and have witnessed.

In my experience it's usually about control and power. And a person like that doesn't usually seem inclined to change their nature.

Evil ****s.

And you are correct.

Domestic violence offenders have higher recidivism rates than many other convicted felons. The criminal justice system has tried various means to reduce these rates and prevent future abuse of intimate partners, but these efforts have had limited success.

Between one-fifth to one-third of domestic violence offenders officially recidivate, many within six months of their initial assault (Hanson, Helmus, & Bourgon, 2007; Hendricks, Werner, Shipway, & Turinetti, 2006; Ventura and Davis, 2004). According to Gondolf (2000), nearly two-thirds (61 per cent) of domestic violence recidivism occurred within six months of the previous offence, with slightly more than one-third (37 per cent) of the repeat victimization occurring within three months. As expected, recidivism occurs sooner following the previous offence when using self-reported data compared to data collected from official criminal justice statistics.

Substance abuse is often a major factor in domestic violence.

It is really cool when you see cases where someone overcomes their violent tendencies, though.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Absolutely.


And yes, I know what I am.

Fair enough.