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Marxist "bricks" in the wall

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The hippie movement of the sixties was all about long hair, tie-dyed shirts, freedom and non-conformity. Now everyone thinks it's a good idea to be the brick in the wall that Pink Floyd and the hippies hated. Bricks are man-made interchangeable one size pieces of constuction material. How would a band called "The Rolling Bricks" sound?

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
 
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The hippie movement of the sixties was all about long hair, tie-dyed shirts, freedom and non-conformity. Now everyone thinks it's a good idea to be the brick in the wall that Pink Floyd and the hippies hated. Bricks are man-made interchangeable one size pieces of constuction material. How would a band called "The Rolling Bricks" sound?

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave those kids alone!
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

I thought that intellectual experimentation was good, but I never had a distaste towards conformity. In fact, I rather liked average...rather liked middle class virtues. For years when I had been reading the material that has come out from that generation, some of it felt rather alien to me. The sense of desperation in their voices wanting the easy, normal life to end because they felt like they had no reason to embrace it seemed strange to me. For an example, there was a leaflet that the Free Speech Movement passed around that was supposedly a letter to the editor..a young lady of college age or perhaps younger said that her bourgeois upbringing was trapping her into a future she could not feel was her own. The universities were likewise "trapping" students into lives that they could not feel were their own, though some of this could be explained by their disapproval of professors being seemingly too caught-up in their own research rather than the students of their courses. Yet at the same time, the desperation for people to understand that they felt like they were the first generation who thought that at any moment they could be completely destroyed by nuclear oblivion.

To some extent, I think the curse to that radical generation was not understanding the good that the previous generation gave to them. Likewise, I think it was also a reflection of the fact that much was provided to them that they felt like they needed to contribute something themselves..which meant rebelling against that which many thought was the approaching American dream of ever-greater prosperity and acceptance of the status-quo.
 
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To some extent, I think the curse to that radical generation was not understanding the good that the previous generation gave to them. Likewise, I think it was also a reflection of the fact that much was provided to them that they felt like they needed to contribute something themselves..which meant rebelling against that which many thought was the approaching American dream of ever-greater prosperity and acceptance of the status-quo.

not to oversimplify your post, but yeah, they were a buncha spoiled brats.
 

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not to oversimplify your post, but yeah, they were a buncha spoiled brats.

I personally was in the Marine Corps from '62 to '66 and didn't have a lot of contact with the hippie culture (to say the least!!). I'm not necessarily advocating the hippie life style but, I'm definately not advocating the zombie life style of Marxism. What I"m surprised about is how eager young people today are to give up their individualilty to become a nameless faceless cog in a mechanism that has never worked worth a damn.
 
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I personally was in the Marine Corps from '62 to '66 and didn't have a lot of contact with the hippie culture (to say the least!!). I'm not necessarily advocating the hippie life style but, I'm definately not advocating the zombie life style of Marxism. What I"m surprised about is how eager young people today are to give up their individualilty to become a nameless faceless cog in a mechanism that has never worked worth a damn.

I'm currently a senior at a university, here's what I see on campus:

I think most younger people don't even stop to consider the consequences of what their doing. A lot of the young people say they want "change," for instance, because that's the most elementary political stance there is...no understanding or specific stances necessary. It's easy and popular. In other words, they'll jump on a bandwagon and develop a ready-made persona of political involvement or even radicalism without ever having stopped to actually consider what it is they are actually advocating.

I find that, on a personal scale, many college kids today are actually conservative--they don't want any major disruptions in their lives. Most are provided with whatever they need and embrace their current lifestyles wholeheartedly, although they realize that they'll need to provide for themselves someday. Take them out of their normal routine--hell, take away their cell phones--for a single day and they become distressed. The problem is that they just don't recognize any connection between the "personal" and the "political." They value individualism but don't understand it, and get hung up on collectivist political slogans without bothering to consider the consequences.
 
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What are you whining about now? This thread makes no sense
Well, it would if you stayed out of it Comrade. I see you're from my old home town, which I normally don't admit. McCarthy should have wiped out the communists in Wisconsin once and for all back when he had the chance but he was smeared by the Progressives and they managed to save their bacon. What happened to your boy Russ Finegold when he stupidly decided to run on Obama's record? That "dairy air" sniffer needs to make an eye doctor appointment because he can't read the writing on the wall.
 
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Lol what is up with your weird obsession with Marxism? I don't care about McCarthy or Feingold. One of you clowns always shows up on this forum every once in a while, makes for some good entertainment.

Welcome, new DP jester!
 

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I'm currently a senior at a university, here's what I see on campus:

I think most younger people don't even stop to consider the consequences of what their doing. A lot of the young people say they want "change," for instance, because that's the most elementary political stance there is...no understanding or specific stances necessary. It's easy and popular. In other words, they'll jump on a bandwagon and develop a ready-made persona of political involvement or even radicalism without ever having stopped to actually consider what it is they are actually advocating.

I find that, on a personal scale, many college kids today are actually conservative--they don't want any major disruptions in their lives. Most are provided with whatever they need and embrace their current lifestyles wholeheartedly, although they realize that they'll need to provide for themselves someday. Take them out of their normal routine--hell, take away their cell phones--for a single day and they become distressed. The problem is that they just don't recognize any connection between the "personal" and the "political." They value individualism but don't understand it, and get hung up on collectivist political slogans without bothering to consider the consequences.

The average human brain isn't fully mature until about age 21 or 22. There's an astological reason for the sixties saying, "Don't trust anyone over thirty" because, at that age, everyone has been through all the houses of the zodiac once and each person starts out on "the second time around". Being able to foresee consequences is called "the ability to see around corners". It's why kids will post nude pictures of themselves. Heelllloooooo!! Oop, didn't think that might happen. It's pretty easy to get a bunch of college kids all charged up for a protest. They're easily led. It's also what makes the Tea Party protests so unusual. Now days it's evidently "cool" be a brick.
 

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Pudding is bourgeois.

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Lol what is up with your weird obsession with Marxism? I don't care about McCarthy or Feingold. One of you clowns always shows up on this forum every once in a while, makes for some good entertainment.

Welcome, new DP jester!

I could ask you the same thing. What's so great about it? I can't get a straight answer out of anybody, just lame excuses for why it has never worked.
 
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Well, it's pretty obvious that peace, love, and sharing could never hold a candle to war, hate, and property hoarding.

Hey, we tried.
 

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I'm not making a million threads about it. You are.

I'm trying to save you from yourown stupidity. Ever hear of a guy named Eldrige Cleaver? You should look him up and see what he thought of Marxism after actually walking the walk for eight years instead of just talking the talk, like you. Here's a little excerpt.

In a shootout between police and the Black Panthers Eldridge Cleaver was wounded, and faced with criminal charges he then evaded bail and fled the United States for a life of exile in Algeria, Cuba and France. After 8 years in exile in these Communist and Socialist countries Eldridge Cleaver requested to return to the United States because he believed he would receive a fair trial under the American judicial system. He and his wife were no longer atheists nor Communists. They had seen what Communism actually creates, the chaotic political law, as well as the rampant corruption and poverty. Cleaver’s time in Communism had debunked his propaganda of “equality” and “justice” in such a society.

He would tell the Reader’s Digest: “I would rather be in jail in America than free anywhere else.”


Why don't you step up and try it comrade, cold feet?
 
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Marxism is dead.
Get over it already.
Reading some of these threads started by the same person is like watching somebody digging up a rotting corpse and beating it with the same shovel over and over again.

What is the point anyway?
 
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The song, well the whole album is about the singers mental state. It has nothing to do with politics at all and quite frankly, I think that people pointing fingers screaming "Communist, Communist!" is getting quite annoying. The irony in that is how most of those people have no idea what communism is. Just sayin'.
 
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