Manifestly Unfit

[NatMorton]

How bad Democrats are at this point:

The US economy is crushing it compared to other rich countries

US economic growth beat expectations in the fourth quarter, and it's outpacing most of the world's wealthiest countries.

finance.yahoo.com

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/31/us-economy-2024-gdp-g7-nations

Average wages have surpassed inflation for 12 straight months

Average hourly wage growth has exceeded inflation for 12 straight months, according to new Bureau of Labor Statistics data released this morning. This real (or inflation-adjusted) wage growth is a key indicator of how well the average worker’s wage can improve their standard of living. As...

www.epi.org

States see record low unemployment across the U.S. • Virginia Mercury

Virginia's unemployment rate dropped to 3.1% in April, when the state also recorded its highest labor force participation rate since June 2014.

virginiamercury.com

Has the US Hit the “Soft Landing” of Controlling Inflation without a Recession?

Not yet, but we’ve done surprisingly well, BU economist Adam Guren says

www.bu.edu

https://www.thestreet.com/economy/gas-prices-are-plunging-and-its-bigger-news-than-you-think

Why your 401(k) is happy: Dow hit new record Wednesday, and stocks are still climbing

The Dow Jones Industrial Average hit a record high Wednesday after the Federal Reserve said interest rates may go down in 2024.

www.usatoday.com

America’s Image Abroad Rebounds With Transition From Trump to Biden

A new survey of 16 publics finds a significant uptick in ratings for the U.S., with strong support for Joe Biden and several of his major policy initiatives. But many raise concerns about the health of America’s political system.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[Brack]

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MI and WI are purple states. Democrats won the Senate elections in those two states. PA now may be a red state since the GOP Senate candidate also won there along with Trump. Arizona is still a red state. The main reason why the Dem Senate candidate won in this state is that the GOP Senate candidate in this state was very unlikeable.

 

[ataraxia]

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[NatMorton]

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I think you have a great deal to learn about democracy.

 

[RF667799]

I think you have a great deal to learn about democracy.

A few short months ago, some of these people were in rhapsody over Kamala Harris. Posting pictures is often a tool of those trying to engage in stereotype.

 

[ataraxia]

I think you have a great deal to learn about democracy.

And the same with you regarding fascism.

Democracy is great as long as people are left free to learn from their mistakes and go back and fix them as needed- as long as the process itself is not destroyed. I would be OK with Trump for another 4 years if I was convinced he is not using populist demagoguery to subvert the process of democracy itself. On 1/6/2020 he showed he was not above that.

That is something, after all, that even the founders of our democracy worried about when they set it up. They could see someone like Donald Trump coming down the pike to lay to ruin their best laid plans. What's amazing is someone hasn't done this sooner.

“When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents...— despotic in his ordinary demeanour — known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty — when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity — to join in the cry of danger to liberty — to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion — to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day — It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ‘ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.’ … No popular government was ever without its Catilines and its Caesars. These are its true enemies.”
-Alexander Hamilton

“… cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”
_George Washington

“A Man compounded of Law and Gospel, is able to cheat a whole Country with his Religion, and then destroy them under Colour of Law … .”
-Benjamin Franklin

 

[NatMorton]

A few short months ago, some of these people were in rhapsody over Kamala Harris. Posting pictures is often a tool of those trying to engage in stereotype.

I think those excited about Harris were often only excited to be moving on from Biden.

 

[RF667799]

And the same with you regarding fascism.

Democracy is great as long as people are left free to learn from their mistakes and go back and fix them as needed- as long as the process itself is not destroyed. I would be OK with Trump for another 4 years if I was convinced he is not using populist demagoguery to subvert the process of democracy itself. On 1/6/2020 he showed he was not above that.

That is something, after all, that even the founders of our democracy worried about when they set it up. They could see someone like Donald Trump coming down the pike to lay to ruin their best laid plans. What's amazing is someone hasn't done this sooner.

“When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents...— despotic in his ordinary demeanour — known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty — when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity — to join in the cry of danger to liberty — to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion — to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day — It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ‘ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.’ … No popular government was ever without its Catilines and its Caesars. These are its true enemies.”
-Alexander Hamilton

“… cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”
_George Washington

“A Man compounded of Law and Gospel, is able to cheat a whole Country with his Religion, and then destroy them under Colour of Law … .”
-Benjamin Franklin

A Trump administration doesn't rise to the level that the founders protected our gun rights to combat.

 

[NatMorton]

And the same with you regarding fascism.

Democracy is great as long as people are left free to learn from their mistakes and go back and fix them as needed- as long as the process itself is not destroyed. I would be OK with Trump for another 4 years if I was convinced he is not using populist demagoguery to subvert the process of democracy itself. On 1/6/2020 he showed he was not above that.

That is something, after all, that even the founders of our democracy worried about when they set it up. They could see someone like Donald Trump coming down the pike to lay to ruin their best laid plans. What's amazing is someone hasn't done this sooner.

“When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents...— despotic in his ordinary demeanour — known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty — when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity — to join in the cry of danger to liberty — to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion — to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day — It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ‘ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.’ … No popular government was ever without its Catilines and its Caesars. These are its true enemies.”
-Alexander Hamilton

“… cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”
_George Washington

“A Man compounded of Law and Gospel, is able to cheat a whole Country with his Religion, and then destroy them under Colour of Law … .”
-Benjamin Franklin

Well, between the two of us, you're the one more often arguing for centralization of political authority to solve problems where I generally call for less government, not more. So in other words, you lean closer to fascism (extreme centralization of power) than I.

 

[RF667799]

I think those excited about Harris were often only excited to be moving on from Biden.

An entire career devoted to lies, plagiarism, and ongoing- often failing- attempts to discern the direction of the wind. Culminating in a drooling mess of pathos.

I'm not surprised at their wanting to move on.

 

[ataraxia]

A Trump administration doesn't rise to the level that the founders protected our gun rights to combat.

If a modern military/government wants to mess with your rights they could care less about your little toy guns. Those are just there for psychopaths to mow down elementary school students at recess.

 

[ataraxia]

Well, between the two of us, you're the one more often arguing for centralization of political authority to solve problems where I generally call for less government, not more. So in other words, you lean closer to fascism (extreme centralization of power) than I.

For someone so suspicious of government power and corruption, you sure seem quite naive about corporate power and corruption. You think it won't happen if they are left free and unregulated.

I see government regulation and oversight as a check and balance to corporate power and corruption- and vice versa. It's not that I trust either. I just see it as an Aliens vs Predators kind of thing. You just seem to have blind faith and trust in one.

Checks and balances is not fascism.

 

[ataraxia]

An entire career devoted to lies, plagiarism,

Yes, that's why we should go chasing after cat eating Haitians, cancer causing wind turbines, secret Kenyan birth certificates, and stolen presidential elections. Now that's someone who has proven they can be trusted with everything they say.

and ongoing- often failing- attempts to discern the direction of the wind.

That direction is fascism and demagoguery- and yes you are right- that is one thing at which Donald Trump is a genius. I'll give you that.

 

[RF667799]

If a modern military/government wants to mess with your rights they could care less about your little toy guns. Those are just there for psychopaths to mow down elementary school students at recess.

Your comments don't seem responsive to my post, and frankly sort of dumb in context. You're in effect arguing for the prudence of disarming in the face of fascism. Kind of "Might as well lay back and enjoy it", eh?

 

[RF667799]

Yes, that's why we should go chasing after cat eating Haitians, cancer causing wind turbines, secret Kenyan birth certificates, and stolen presidential elections. Now that's someone who has proven they can be trusted with everything they say.


That direction is fascism and demagoguery- and yes you are right- that is one thing at which Donald Trump is a genius. I'll give you that.

Whataboutism failure.

Beat the Trump drum over and over. Too bad he is your new fascist overlord.

 

[countryboy]

Let's start with definitions:
Manifestly: "show something clearly, through signs or actions", plain, obvious;
unfit: "not of the necessary quality or standard to meet a particular purpose," not qualified, incapable, incompetent.

I do this to set the parameters for my next statement: we are choosing leadership that is manifestly unfit. To wit: Donald Trump, JD Vance, Mike Johnson, much of the judiciary and virtually every cabinet nominee - Gaetz, Bondi, Hegseth, Kennedy, Patel, the list is long. This is not hyperbole. They are not even close calls, nuanced or debateable.

Trump is, among many things, a felon, a rapist, a failed businessman, an adjudicated frauster, and incompetent in a vast array of fields, from economics to science, and just basic logic. Even many of his supporters acknowledge this (but don't care). JD Vance is a failed attorney who was recruited and propped up as a "venture capitalist" by an ambitios billionaire for middling venture firm that has seen little success. Mike Johnson, everyone's last choice, is the most incompetent Speaker in decades, unable to even count votes. The cabinet choices Trump has made are a who's who of crackpots, schemers, and outright frauds with no relevant experience for their nominated positions.

In any other era, none of these individuals would have survived the multitudinous scandals they each bring to consideration, because, until recently, competence and good character were expected of authorities in our government. It wasn't that long ago that the Kennedy administration was described as "the best and the brightest", scientists were considered heroes, and academic success was lauded. Whatever happened to "standards"? Why are we, as a society, sanguine about this condition?

Trump's strategy, as always, is to "flood the zone" in the hope (apparently not forlorn) that not all of them will be rejected. But they should be. Because they are "manifestly unfit".

Lol.

 

[NatMorton]

You think it won't happen if they are left free and unregulated

That is a straw man and a lie. Quit the BS.

 

[ataraxia]

Your comments don't seem responsive to my post, and frankly sort of dumb in context. You're in effect arguing for the prudence of disarming in the face of fascism. Kind of "Might as well lay back and enjoy it", eh?

Yeah, Trumpists are already sitting back and enjoying it, it seems, LOL.

Companies prepare for higher tariffs threatened by Trump

A number of U.S. companies whose products are imported from China are devising alternative plans to source their goods from elsewhere. President-elect Trump ...

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Hope at least you sit back and enjoy. And I hope when you're ready to cry uncle, you will still have that option. Have fun.

 

[ataraxia]

That is a straw man and a lie. Quit the BS.

So if I am misunderstanding you, who do you think should act as a check on corporate and free market freedoms?

 

[RF667799]

Yeah, Trumpists are already sitting back and enjoying it, it seems, LOL.









Hope at least you sit back and enjoy. And I hope when you're ready to cry uncle, you will still have that option. Have fun.

"I know you are; what am I"?



You're like a modern day Paul Revere.

"The fascists are coming! The fascists are coming! Quick! Disarm yourselves!"

 

[jaypatriot]

Let's start with definitions:
Manifestly: "show something clearly, through signs or actions", plain, obvious;
unfit: "not of the necessary quality or standard to meet a particular purpose," not qualified, incapable, incompetent.

I do this to set the parameters for my next statement: we are choosing leadership that is manifestly unfit. To wit: Donald Trump, JD Vance, Mike Johnson, much of the judiciary and virtually every cabinet nominee - Gaetz, Bondi, Hegseth, Kennedy, Patel, the list is long. This is not hyperbole. They are not even close calls, nuanced or debateable.

Trump is, among many things, a felon, a rapist, a failed businessman, an adjudicated frauster, and incompetent in a vast array of fields, from economics to science, and just basic logic. Even many of his supporters acknowledge this (but don't care). JD Vance is a failed attorney who was recruited and propped up as a "venture capitalist" by an ambitios billionaire for middling venture firm that has seen little success. Mike Johnson, everyone's last choice, is the most incompetent Speaker in decades, unable to even count votes. The cabinet choices Trump has made are a who's who of crackpots, schemers, and outright frauds with no relevant experience for their nominated positions.

In any other era, none of these individuals would have survived the multitudinous scandals they each bring to consideration, because, until recently, competence and good character were expected of authorities in our government. It wasn't that long ago that the Kennedy administration was described as "the best and the brightest", scientists were considered heroes, and academic success was lauded. Whatever happened to "standards"? Why are we, as a society, sanguine about this condition?

Trump's strategy, as always, is to "flood the zone" in the hope (apparently not forlorn) that not all of them will be rejected. But they should be. Because they are "manifestly unfit".

I thought your post could have referenced members of Biden's Administration. But you were definitely one-sided when it came to the winners that will now be populating our government.
But your post was the best description of a sour grapes apology for the outgoing administration. Better luck next time but only if the Dems figure out what the American public wants instead of what the Progressive Dems dream about who should populate our government bureaucracy.

 

[NatMorton]

So if I am misunderstanding you, who do you think should act as a check on corporate and free market freedoms?

I think government is indispensable to maintaining open and fair markets, and I've never said nor implied anything else.

 

[Rexedgar]

This kinda shit would get regular people committed:



Also Wayne Gretzky should be the governor of the “51st state.”

I just left Wayne Gretzky, “The Great One” as he is known in Ice Hockey circles. I said, “Wayne, why don’t you run for Prime Minister of Canada, soon to be known as the Governor of Canada - You would win easily, you wouldn’t even have to campaign.” He had no interest, but I think the people of Canada should start a DRAFT WAYNE GRETZKY Movement. It would be so much fun to watch!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/113715216746072252

 

[NatMorton]

This kinda shit would get regular people committed:

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Also Wayne Gretzky should be the governor of the “51st state.”

I just left Wayne Gretzky, “The Great One” as he is known in Ice Hockey circles. I said, “Wayne, why don’t you run for Prime Minister of Canada, soon to be known as the Governor of Canada - You would win easily, you wouldn’t even have to campaign.” He had no interest, but I think the people of Canada should start a DRAFT WAYNE GRETZKY Movement. It would be so much fun to watch!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/113715216746072252

Trump simply can never stop being Trump. He is, at every turn, entirely lacking in class or grace.

 

[ataraxia]

I think government is indispensable to maintaining open and fair markets, and I've never said nor implied anything else.

So who do you think is opposing you?