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Man killed during FBI raid in connection with threats against Biden, other officials

EMNofSeattle said:
I mean there’s a problem there though, because that makes it look like the NKVD style raid was purely to “show him” for exercising his rights under the law
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Threatening to kill the President, prosecutors, and FBI agents is “exercise of rights under the law”?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Don’t be childish. You’re writing nonsense in bad faith on purpose because you politically support slaying people you don’t like, like all leftists do, whether quietly or not so quietly
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Nonsense in bad faith? Dude, there are screenshots of his direct threats in this thread.

And you claim those threats are protected rights?
 
justoneman said:
That is the question.
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How is that the question? Did he come out with his hands up like they ordered him to? I'm going to go with no because from the statements he was killed inside his residence and then carried outside where they attempted to revive him.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I already addressed his behavior in my first post in this thread. That is not the point of discussion relevant here

This point is still disputed, but the point is, the FBI chose to engage this in the most risky and escalatory way, and thus whether knowingly (most likely) or unknowingly created a position where shots had to be fired versus an arrest,
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So this guy chose to violently resist arrest with lethal force and you blame the FBI and not him for him making that choice?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Officers were executing a search warrant in an actual murder investigation, not someone spouting off on social media, so their tactics are more reasonable in that regard. When apprehending a suspect of that nature who already committed a murder you may have to act fast when you know where he’s at, in this case you have an obese 75 year old homeowner with no violent history that I can find and who’s unlikely to flee, and as someone else pointed out they already talked to him and he asked them to get a warrant, which is within his legal rights. So they knew where he was and revealed to him the investigation. Speed wasn’t the same necessity

Plus my argument in this case was not that the police did everything right in the Amir Locke case, but that the officer who fired the shots didnt break the law.
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Making direct threats to murder the president is not “spouting off on social media”. It’s a felony.
 
Questerr said:
So this guy chose to violently resist arrest with lethal force and you blame the FBI and not him for him making that choice?
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He violently resisted? Describe exactly what happened because I have not read the details anywhere.
 
Questerr said:
So this guy chose to violently resist arrest with lethal force and you blame the FBI and not him for him making that choice?
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Sweet justice that they did to that scumbag magat what he was going to do to President Biden and others. Hoping to see more of the same, stop them early before they kill. Only way to deal with these terrorist traitors.
 
Questerr said:
Making direct threats to murder the president is not “spouting off on social media”. It’s a felony.
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Fox is selling this incident as the deep state FBI targeting MAGA and murdering them.

FOX is a serious danger to democracy.
Their Orcs, MAGA, believe the shit they and Trump make up.
 
Questerr said:
Nonsense in bad faith? Dude, there are screenshots of his direct threats in this thread.

And you claim those threats are protected rights?
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Some sick ****s in this country, gun nutters who want to kill innocent people and children and the bastards who defend them.

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Sue Sponte said:
Officers were executing arrest warrants on Robertson, which he demanded they obtain before speaking with them and threatened to shoot them if they came back.
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if that were true it’s even more indefensible the option they chose.
Sue Sponte said:
A search warrant isn't to apprehend a suspect and precedes any arrest warrant so they clearly didn't know he'd committed a murder otherwise it would have been an arrest warrant.
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They suspected Locke’s cousin of committing a murder. However you want to wordsmith that makes no difference
Sue Sponte said:
Other than eating his neighbors cat.



Bullcrap. The president he fantasized about killing was arriving in Utah that day.
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Yeah, I guarantee no one at the FBI seriously believed he was going to shoot the president and in any event they had him under surveillance
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Don’t be childish. You’re writing nonsense in bad faith on purpose because you politically support slaying people you don’t like, like all leftists do, whether quietly or not so quietly
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Talk about a crock of bullshit..
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Don’t be childish. You’re writing nonsense in bad faith on purpose because you politically support slaying people you don’t like, like all leftists do, whether quietly or not so quietly
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It's not about slaying people we don't like....had he not pointed a gun at the FBI, he would be alive. It is a crime to make death threats toward public officials, including the president and others....and it is stupid as hell to point a gun at cops.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
if that were true it’s even more indefensible the option they chose.

They suspected Locke’s cousin of committing a murder. However you want to wordsmith that makes no difference

Yeah, I guarantee no one at the FBI seriously believed he was going to shoot the president and in any event they had him under surveillance
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Threatening to kill the President is the indefensible action. He chose to threaten murder. He chose to resist with lethal weapons rather than surrender.

Yet you blame the FBI for his choices?

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: “The supposed morality of a conservative Catholic”
 
SkyFox76 said:
How is that the question? Did he come out with his hands up like they ordered him to? I'm going to go with no because from the statements he was killed inside his residence and then carried outside where they attempted to revive him.
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It's the question because the FBI has not said exactly what happened yet.

You are going with that? Because you are just guessing.
 
justoneman said:
It's the question because the FBI has not said exactly what happened yet.

You are going with that? Because you are just guessing.
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From various reports we know at least one neighbor stated they saw police carry his body outside to the driveway from inside the house. And we also have at least one neighbor's statement was that officers were yelling for him to come out with his hands up, and that he was yelling back at them. So does that lead you to believe he followed police orders, came out with his hands up and then what? Ran back in the house where they shot him and then carried him outside to to try and revive him?
 
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