Man dies of Covid (without being infected)

[Threegoofs]

This is complete bullshit propaganda and a blatant lie. Check this for yourself folks....

The same newspaper printed this Aug 23,

Around 53% of the state's ICU beds are currently filled with COVID-19 patients, Alabama Hospital Association's Dr. Don Williamson said Monday.
The State of Alabama was reporting 4700 new cases per day on Aug 23, since then the numbers have dropped off considerably with 2300 on 9/9 and 1200 on 9/10.
Someone is lying.

Not sure if you (or the people who ‘liked’ this) get that cases are the early indicator. Then hospitalizations, then deaths.

I’m sure you haven’t put a lot of thought into it, but the initial indicator of cases lead to hospitalizations that last potentially weeks, so consistent high rates will fill hospitals later and keep them filled for a while.

So rapidly filling hospitals three weeks ago is certainly consistent with full hospitals now, even with dropping rates.

 

[screenwriter]

People can live with chf (congestive heart failure) as a chronic condition for DECADES with proper medical and self management.
That being said....chf can exacerbate and ABSOLUTELY be a treatable medical emergency. I have been an ICU RN for almost 40 years....and aggressive care in an acute setting can give a patient many more years of quality life.

Without knowing the particulars, I can tell you hospitals being over run with covid do negatively impact non covid patients. Happened to my brother in January. He should have gone to the major facility that could have gotten him to surgery in short order. The only facility that could take him to was a small community hospital without needed resources. He clearly was a covid "related" death. At the time he should have been in a surgery suite, he was still in the ER waiting for a surgical consult. He clearly could have been saved.

I said nothing to the contrary to your first paragraph.

The second paragraph there is no way to respond but sorry for your loss. If I add to or ask questions about it, I would only be more attacked than I already am. But I do know from an ER perspective myself.

 

[screenwriter]

How do you know that all this is true? Do you have a source, or are you just making this all up?

It's easy to find things if your google finger isn't broken.

 

[watsup]

It's easy to find things if your google finger isn't broken.

I see. So you DON’T actually have a reliable source. You just picked the “information” from the blogosphere and you haven’t the slightest idea whether any of it is actually true. Well okay then!

 

[screenwriter]

I see. So you DON’T actually have a reliable source. You just picked the “information” from the blogosphere and you haven’t the slightest idea whether any of it is actually true. Well okay th

Then feel free to scroll back through my previous posts to find it there.

 

[watsup]

Then feel free to scroll back through my previous posts to find it there.

No need to. It is quite obvious that you have no reliable source or you would provide it. Please quit making up stories out of whole cloth. If what you said had a source but you did not provide it in that particular post, then you have violated DP rules by not providing the source. Which is it?

 

[Hamish Howl]

It's easy to find things if your google finger isn't broken.

So no source.

 

[911Sparky]

Yes, many sources are now copying and pasting the story from the "Montgomery Advertiser." By his own actions, noonereal tell us that this is not a worthy source.

You are like a little dog with a bone, just can't let go. The story has been shown to be true with numerous links to different sources yet you still chew away.

 

[seymourflops]

You are like a little dog with a bone, just can't let go. The story has been shown to be true with numerous links to different sources yet you still chew away.

Really?

The "numerous links to different sources" copied and pasted the original scam article.

That's not proof.

 

[watsup]

Really?

The "numerous links to different sources" copied and pasted the original scam article.

That's not proof.

Conspiracy theory.

 

[year2late]

I said nothing to the contrary to your first paragraph.

The second paragraph there is no way to respond but sorry for your loss. If I add to or ask questions about it, I would only be more attacked than I already am. But I do know from an ER perspective myself.

The point is still there. Without a shadow of a doubt, the flood of covid patients adversely affects not covid patients.

I know nurses that have worked in very overwhelmed areas (covid). They have compared it to mass casualty events...but at least in mass casualty events there is an end in site. At least in mass casualty events they are not putting themselves or their families at risk for caring for these patients.

At least with my brother, there was not a widely available vaccine to the public. Now there is. If taken by many more, the ICU occupancy would decrease.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

As I said above, the one story that actually named a hospital was immediately debunked.

Covid Patients Are Overwhelming Intensive Care Units In These States

In one state, more than 60% of ICU beds are occupied by coronavirus patients.

www.forbes.com

 

[seymourflops]

Covid Patients Are Overwhelming Intensive Care Units In These States

In one state, more than 60% of ICU beds are occupied by coronavirus patients.

www.forbes.com

@Crakhobarbie, did you read that article, before you posted it in reply to may statement about the story being debunked? Because is is not an answer to that statement.

I found this interesting, though:

Some 81.4% of U.S. intensive care unit beds are in use, up slightly from fewer than 78% about a month ago, and Americans with Covid-19 are taking up nearly 30% — or 24,485 — of total ICU beds, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.

So if my math is right, 81.4% of ICU beds being in use means that 18.6% of them are awaiting patients. How does that compare to the month before the vaccine became available?

Idaho has the nation’s highest rate of Covid-19 ICU usage, with 60.8% of that state’s ICU beds occupied by coronavirus patients — more than 93% of Idaho’s ICU beds are in use overall, forcing state officials on Thursday to activate “crisis standards of care” and give hospitals the power to prioritize which patients receive medical treatment.

So, even in the state having the worst crises, more than 6% of ICU bets are not in use and awaiting patients. Obvously, we'd rather it be closer to 20%, but patients are not dying because there's no ICU beds available.

That last phrase is strange. Hospitals have always had the power to prioritize which patients receive medical treatment. It isn't take a number first come first served, it's who need the care the most and the soonest.

 

[screenwriter]

So no source.

feel free to scroll back through my previous posts to find it then.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

@Crakhobarbie, did you read that article, before you posted it in reply to may statement about the story being debunked? Because is is not an answer to that statement.

I found this interesting, though:

Some 81.4% of U.S. intensive care unit beds are in use, up slightly from fewer than 78% about a month ago, and Americans with Covid-19 are taking up nearly 30% — or 24,485 — of total ICU beds, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.

So if my math is right, 81.4% of ICU beds being in use means that 18.6% of them are awaiting patients. How does that compare to the month before the vaccine became available?

Idaho has the nation’s highest rate of Covid-19 ICU usage, with 60.8% of that state’s ICU beds occupied by coronavirus patients — more than 93% of Idaho’s ICU beds are in use overall, forcing state officials on Thursday to activate “crisis standards of care” and give hospitals the power to prioritize which patients receive medical treatment.

So, even in the state having the worst crises, more than 6% of ICU bets are not in use and awaiting patients. Obvously, we'd rather it be closer to 20%, but patients are not dying because there's no ICU beds available.

That last phrase is strange. Hospitals have always had the power to prioritize which patients receive medical treatment. It isn't take a number first come first served, it's who need the care the most and the soonest.

Did you assume it is 81.4% ICU beds in every hospital? That's not how it works. That's the average percentage. Some hospitals have far less then 81.4% ICU beds available. Your "logic" is obnoxiously askew. Once an patient has filled an intensive care bed, they don't get pushed out to assist another ICU patent untill they are well enough to be taken out of ICU. You are a whirlwind of false assumptions and speculation.

 

[bluesmoke]

Jeebus, bluesmoke!

That website has pop ups for "sexy asians in your area."

I'll never click on one of your links again!

I've no idea what you're talking about. Provide refuting evidence or my evidence stands as given. Go Google, there are other sources.

 

[Luce]

Jeebus, bluesmoke!

That website has pop ups for "sexy asians in your area."

I'll never click on one of your links again!

Well, I think we can guess your search history.

 

[seymourflops]

Well, I think we can guess your search history.

Nah my search history is all transgender Latinas, not Asians.

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

Anybody not vaccinated by choice should have give up their bed to other people in need. THey are sick for their own selfishness and idiocy, they should be able to kill others

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

That. Right there. It's why we still fight racism today. People downplay it or pretend it doesn't happen while it continues.

It's shameful.

Shameful and pathetic, but lets be real, most on the right are that way about everything. Look at how disgusting they are downplaying COVID and Covid related deaths and calling it fake. The very same people will then turn around and blame outbreak on illegals. It's a non-stop flood of the same moronic lies, deflections, calling facts "fake news'.

 

[Threegoofs]

Nah my search history is all transgender Latinas, not Asians.

That definitely checks out.