Majority supports policies Lieberman pushed out of Senate bill

[Whip Comes Down]

8. Rasmussen has support for the bill at 40% and Rasmussen is the most reputable poll out there.

The poll questions were too vague, bro.

 

[Whip Comes Down]

the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats

There is no single plan, bro. The poll question was too vague. The responses are worthless.

 

[Conservative]

The poll questions were too vague, bro.

How do you know the poll questions were too vague but the others that you quoted were right on and accurate?

Health Care Reform
40% Support Health Care Plan, 56% Oppose It

Monday, December 14,
Fifty-six percent (56%) of U.S. voters now oppose the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s the highest level of opposition found - reached three times before - in six months of polling.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 40% of voters favor the health care plan.

 

[Whip Comes Down]

Do some research,dude.

Report: Bill would reduce senior care

That story is bogus, dude. The writer has admitted that she never actually read the report by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

 

[The Prof]

cuts to medicare and medicaid in the senate bill, "more than 400 billion," from associated press (erica werner):

RealClearPolitics - Politics - Dec 06, 2009 - Medicare cuts focus of Senate health care debate

here's some info on what phil bredesen has so famously and so often called "the mother of unfunded mandates:"

Bredesen Pops Up in Health Debate, Warning Against 'Mother of All Unfunded Mandates' - Nashville News - Nashville Scene - Pith in the Wind

what the tennessee governor is talking about, as well as at least half a dozen other prominent blue gov's, gregoire, ritter, schweitzer, bill richardson, is this idea of obama's that, hey, his budget is all balanced, he's just gonna ask the (already bankrupt) states to pick up 200B of tab

senator difi of my state once on abc's stephy announced loud and clear and with a tremor of stentorian in her voice that she would, under no circumstances, ever agree to this central tenet of obamite accounting

not out here in CA

oh, well

apparently, ms feinstein's word is not bond

actually, the cms (centers for medicare and medicaid services), independent actuary for the m's under hhs (health and human services), scored last week the most recent reid merge as ACCELERATING UP the COST CURVE, as well as putting 20% of hospitals in the red

U.S. agency sees more health spending with reform | Reuters

this is due to the now famous low rate of pay, especially in rural areas, awarded doctors when they treat medicare or medicaid patients

this is what kent conrad has (til now) been so adamant about---country care, killed by reid's now famous undefunding

now, were you to poll americans, "do you support a public option if it means cutting m and m half a T?"

or, "do you want it if states are obligated to 200B of burden, unfunded?"

well, you'd get a more realistic result

put it this way---if the pretty PO is indeed so popular, then progressives are past stupid to putsch it

unfortunately, obamacare is polling in the pits, low 30's, now

anything below 40 is death

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Obama and Democrats' Health Care Plan

all of these developments are so LOUD

i'm sincerely surprised you didn't hear

it's funny how he who knows least talks most

oh, well

no skin off my nose

 

[Whip Comes Down]

How do you know the poll questions were too vague but the others that you quoted were right on and accurate?

Dude, there's more than one plan out there.

 

[Conservative]

Dude, there's more than one plan out there.

Please give us the bill you are talking about and the bill number. The Senate Bill under discussion now and debate has almost 500 billion in Medicare cuts which is what Democrats want to use to pay in part for the bill. So don't tell us there are no Medicare cuts in this bill.

 

[Conservative]

I thought you wanted Obama and our nation to fail.

No, I want Obama's agenda to fail for if it succeeds the nation will fail.

 

[Conservative]

I hope it puts the health insurance cartel out of business.

How compassionate of you, where do the millions of Americans that work in that field work?

 

[Strucky]

That story is bogus, dude. The writer has admitted that she never actually read the report by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

Provide evidence.

 

[Whip Comes Down]

Please give us the bill you are talking about and the bill number. The Senate Bill under discussion now and debate has almost 500 billion in Medicare cuts which is what Democrats want to use to pay in part for the bill. So don't tell us there are no Medicare cuts in this bill.

Show us where you believe the bills cut any Medicare program.

 

[Whip Comes Down]

where do the millions of Americans that work in that field work?

I don't really care, bro.

 

[Whip Comes Down]

Provide evidence.

Just read what she wrote, bro.

 

[Conservative]

I don't really care, bro.

Of course you don't, you are a typical compassionate liberal expecting your liberal govt. to employ them all. I never expected for a minute that you and your liberal friends really care about anyone else.

 

[Conservative]

Show us where you believe the bills cut any Medicare program.

It was you that said there were no Medicare cuts in the healthcare bill. Name the bill and give me the bill number.

 

[Conservative]

Show us where you believe the bills cut any Medicare program.

Reported on that "ultra conservative" MSNBC and AP. Interesting that there would be a report of Medicare cuts that you claim didn't exist.

updated 6:49 p.m. CT, Thurs., Dec . 3, 2009

WASHINGTON - Unflinching on a critical first test, Senate Democrats closed ranks Thursday behind $460 billion in politically risky Medicare cuts at the heart of health care legislation, thwarting a Republican attempt to doom President Barack Obama's sweeping overhaul.

 

[Whip Comes Down]

Reported on that "ultra conservative" MSNBC and AP. Interesting that there would be a report of Medicare cuts that you claim didn't exist.

updated 6:49 p.m. CT, Thurs., Dec . 3, 2009

WASHINGTON - Unflinching on a critical first test, Senate Democrats closed ranks Thursday behind $460 billion in politically risky Medicare cuts at the heart of health care legislation, thwarting a Republican attempt to doom President Barack Obama's sweeping overhaul.

I'll take that to mean you can't show us where you believe the bills actually cut Medicare.

 

[The Prof]

another link from ap:

RealClearPolitics - Politics - Dec 03, 2009 - Medicare cuts stay in Senate's health care bill

what an idiot

obama, i mean

i think he needs to buy a tv

 

[Whip Comes Down]

another link from ap:

RealClearPolitics - Politics - Dec 03, 2009 - Medicare cuts stay in Senate's health care bill

what an idiot

obama, i mean

i think he needs to buy a tv

I'll take that to mean you still can't show us where you believe the Senate bill actually cut Medicare.

 

[The Prof]

tell it to the ap

 

[Whip Comes Down]

tell it to the ap

I'll still take that to mean you still can't show us where you believe the Senate bill actually cut Medicare.

 

[The Prof]

he takes "medicare cuts stay in senate's health care bill" to mean...

LOL!

 

[BWG]

70% of the Republican vote is hardly nothing in Connecticut especially since some Republicans still voted for the Republican candidate

LOL...You're kidding, right?

Republicans accounted for approximately 26% of the total 1,121,131 votes cast (using only Lieberman, Lamont and Schlesinger - the others were insignificant) for 291,494 Republican votes.

Lieberman got approximately 70% of the 291,494 Republican votes for a total of 204,046.

Lieberman beat Lamont by 115,648 votes.

So yes, without the Republican vote, Lieberman would not have won the Senate seat.


Sources:

CNN.com - Elections 2006

CNN.com - Elections 2006