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Majority Rule: The Thermonuclear Option

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Eliminating the filibuster in the U.S. Senate to permit legislation to pass by a simple majority is sometimes called “the nuclear option.” That is insufficient. If you’re really interested in ending the tyranny of the minority, go for the thermonuclear option.

The plan assumes a Democratic President and a unified Democratic majority in both the House and Senate, with members willing to sacrifice their own seats as necessary.

Start with the Democratic Senate packing an expanded U.S. Supreme Court with new members nominated by the President who will interpret the U.S. Constitution to allow Congress to expel states from the Union. It doesn’t matter if that is the “wrong” interpretation. There is no higher court to overrule their decision. Congress then expels all states except for those with Democratic governors and legislatures, which presumably would also have a majority Democratic representation in Congress.

The new, much smaller Congress then proposes constitutional amendments that would replace the electoral college with a popular vote and eliminate the Senate, leaving only a House whose representation is based solely on population; and provides for Congress (the House of Representatives) to draw all congressional districts, determine voter eligibility and other rules for the election of members of Congress and the President and Vice President.

All powers previously reserved to the Senate would be conferred to the House.

The amendments are sent to the Democratic-controlled states where they are quickly approved. The non-Democratic states are readmitted to the Union only if their legislatures pass binding resolutions stating they will submit to the revised constitution.
 
Sounds like authoritarian single-party state power grabbing and an end to democracy...

Maybe the people who support this should just move to other single-party states like China, Vietnam, Russia, etc?
 
Eliminating the filibuster in the U.S. Senate to permit legislation to pass by a simple majority is sometimes called “the nuclear option.” That is insufficient. If you’re really interested in ending the tyranny of the minority, go for the thermonuclear option.

The plan assumes a Democratic President and a unified Democratic majority in both the House and Senate, with members willing to sacrifice their own seats as necessary.

Start with the Democratic Senate packing an expanded U.S. Supreme Court with new members nominated by the President who will interpret the U.S. Constitution to allow Congress to expel states from the Union. It doesn’t matter if that is the “wrong” interpretation. There is no higher court to overrule their decision. Congress then expels all states except for those with Democratic governors and legislatures, which presumably would also have a majority Democratic representation in Congress.

The new, much smaller Congress then proposes constitutional amendments that would replace the electoral college with a popular vote and eliminate the Senate, leaving only a House whose representation is based solely on population; and provides for Congress (the House of Representatives) to draw all congressional districts, determine voter eligibility and other rules for the election of members of Congress and the President and Vice President.

All powers previously reserved to the Senate would be conferred to the House.

The amendments are sent to the Democratic-controlled states where they are quickly approved. The non-Democratic states are readmitted to the Union only if their legislatures pass binding resolutions stating they will submit to the revised constitution.
The majority should also rule when electing a President so eliminate the electoral college and make the popular vote the winner.
 
Eliminating the filibuster in the U.S. Senate to permit legislation to pass by a simple majority is sometimes called “the nuclear option.” That is insufficient. If you’re really interested in ending the tyranny of the minority, go for the thermonuclear option.

The plan assumes a Democratic President and a unified Democratic majority in both the House and Senate, with members willing to sacrifice their own seats as necessary.

Start with the Democratic Senate packing an expanded U.S. Supreme Court with new members nominated by the President who will interpret the U.S. Constitution to allow Congress to expel states from the Union. It doesn’t matter if that is the “wrong” interpretation. There is no higher court to overrule their decision. Congress then expels all states except for those with Democratic governors and legislatures, which presumably would also have a majority Democratic representation in Congress.

The new, much smaller Congress then proposes constitutional amendments that would replace the electoral college with a popular vote and eliminate the Senate, leaving only a House whose representation is based solely on population; and provides for Congress (the House of Representatives) to draw all congressional districts, determine voter eligibility and other rules for the election of members of Congress and the President and Vice President.

All powers previously reserved to the Senate would be conferred to the House.

The amendments are sent to the Democratic-controlled states where they are quickly approved. The non-Democratic states are readmitted to the Union only if their legislatures pass binding resolutions stating they will submit to the revised constitution.
In other words, you want to end democracy.

Okay.

Forget it.

btw, "with members willing to sacrifice their own seats as necessary". LOL!! That'll never happen. Democratic Elites WANT their gravy train. There's no way they will be willing to sacrifice their own seats.
 
Well, that is one way to ensure Democrats are taken less seriously going forward.
 
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In other words, you want to end democracy.

Okay.

Forget it.

btw, "with members willing to sacrifice their own seats as necessary". LOL!! That'll never happen. Democratic Elites WANT their gravy train. There's no way they will be willing to sacrifice their own seats.
According to many conservatives, that wouldn't matter because they claim we live in a republic, not a democracy.
 
Eliminating the filibuster in the U.S. Senate to permit legislation to pass by a simple majority is sometimes called “the nuclear option.” That is insufficient. If you’re really interested in ending the tyranny of the minority, go for the thermonuclear option.

The plan assumes a Democratic President and a unified Democratic majority in both the House and Senate, with members willing to sacrifice their own seats as necessary.

Start with the Democratic Senate packing an expanded U.S. Supreme Court with new members nominated by the President who will interpret the U.S. Constitution to allow Congress to expel states from the Union. It doesn’t matter if that is the “wrong” interpretation. There is no higher court to overrule their decision. Congress then expels all states except for those with Democratic governors and legislatures, which presumably would also have a majority Democratic representation in Congress.

The new, much smaller Congress then proposes constitutional amendments that would replace the electoral college with a popular vote and eliminate the Senate, leaving only a House whose representation is based solely on population; and provides for Congress (the House of Representatives) to draw all congressional districts, determine voter eligibility and other rules for the election of members of Congress and the President and Vice President.

All powers previously reserved to the Senate would be conferred to the House.

The amendments are sent to the Democratic-controlled states where they are quickly approved. The non-Democratic states are readmitted to the Union only if their legislatures pass binding resolutions stating they will submit to the revised constitution.
Definitely not.

That's as bad as what the republicans want to do.
 
According to many conservatives, that wouldn't matter because they claim we live in a republic, not a democracy.
You are spouting liberal talking points. I was just throwing another one back in your face.
 
Well somehow we have to put the trumpertards back under the rock they crawled out from under!
 
I'd prefer nothing passed by a simple majority, and any legislation which contains Federal spending would require a three fourths majority in both Houses to pass. Everything else would require two thirds in both Houses,
 
In other words, you want to end democracy.

Okay.

Forget it.

btw, "with members willing to sacrifice their own seats as necessary". LOL!! That'll never happen. Democratic Elites WANT their gravy train. There's no way they will be willing to sacrifice their own seats.

We learned this from the GOP under Trump, didn't we?
 
Trump owns a country club, if that doesn't make him part of the elite I don't know what would.

Trying to claim Trump isn't part of the elite is ridiculous. He claims to be a billionaire, how is that not elite?
I am talking about "political Elites". Trump isn't one, never has been one and, as I said, he is the bane of the political Elites.
 
I am talking about "political Elites". Trump isn't one, never has been one and, as I said, he is the bane of the political Elites.
To the detriment of the country.
 
I am talking about "political Elites". Trump isn't one, never has been one and, as I said, he is the bane of the political Elites.

Again, he was the bloody President.
You don't get much more elite than that in politics.

You really do have some strange ideas about Trump.
 
Again, he was the bloody President.
You don't get much more elite than that in politics.

You really do have some strange ideas about Trump.
And you have an utter ignorance about what a political Elite is.

Hell, you don't even know that you have political Elites in your own country, don't you?

You are dismissed.
 
I'd prefer nothing passed by a simple majority, and any legislation which contains Federal spending would require a three fourths majority in both Houses to pass. Everything else would require two thirds in both Houses,
Why not just the simple majority? The way everything else is decided.
 
Why not just the simple majority? The way everything else is decided.
If the simple majority always made the correct or best choices that would work. That's why not.
 
I am talking about "political Elites". Trump isn't one, never has been one and, as I said, he is the bane of the political Elites.
Trump is elite in wealth only.
 
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