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Thread title pretty much says it all. How dumb does someone have to be to think college is a bad thing?
lol...yeah. That's the news one now. In fact, according to that tribe of idiots college, the medial community, the insurance industry, the news, the intelligence community, the FBI, the courts, and even Republicans not in lock step with them are all part of some vast Leftist conspiracy headed by George Soros.
Come to think of it...that totally explains why they hate college.
LOL
Well, the research shows graduates have significant deficits in critical thinking skills, among other problems.
Washing away the rhetoric and implications the alt-left author featured in the OP is trying to sell, the primary problem with colleges and universities today is found in the horrendous cost they enslave students to cover, and the poor job they do in preparing students for a future career.
All people should be concerned with this result, as opposed to the lame attempt to suggest Republicans don't want people to receive college educations.
LOL
Well, the research shows graduates have significant deficits in critical thinking skills, among other problems.
Washing away the rhetoric and implications the alt-left author featured in the OP is trying to sell, the primary problem with colleges and universities today is found in the horrendous cost they enslave students to cover, and the poor job they do in preparing students for a future career.
All people should be concerned with this result, as opposed to the lame attempt to suggest Republicans don't want people to receive college educations.
The point by many on this thread is that the reason colleges are bad now is because the left has control of them.
So when and why are the right so weak and powerless in higher ed? The left did not use guns and tanks in a coup to take over higher ed. The right must have just given up. Based on this theory
That is not a reason to worry. If those that control anything are impartial brokers of their product, then that is almost always a good thing.
In the case of our Universities, there is a bias against various topics and in favor of various topics that have absolutely nothing to do with curriculum.
Those that control Universities' engage in censorship, often using prior restraint. They may, as an example, see evil in a baker not serving a gay couple citing it as bias and discrimination.
They see no problem at all, however, in denying a platform to anyone who opposes their preferred ideologies.
IF the issue is freedom of speech and expanded exposure to greater variety of thoughts, THEN they should oppose all censorship and endorse any vehicle that expands the market place of ideas ESPECIALLY ON THEIR OWN CAMPUS.
The goal of the academic elite, then, is not a higher principle of creating a wider spectrum of thinking. It is merely censorship of ideas with which they disagree.
I would submit that the lack of esteem rendered to the Academic elite is recognition of their hypocrisy, not dismissal of their credentialed intelligence.
Yes, the multi trillion projected add on by Trump's budget is a fact promulgated by CBO. The 22 to 24 million is a fact promulgated by CBO.You have yet to prove that statement thus it is your opinion, not fact. 1.6% GDP growth is a FACT, 9.3 trillion added to the debt is a FACT, 24 million losing their insurance is an OPINION
Yes, the multi trillion projected add on by Trump's budget is a fact promulgated by CBO. The 22 to 24 million is a fact promulgated by CBO.
So, we listen to you, or to CBO? Don't be silly.
The budget is not how we spend our bills. It never has been. The current defense authorization bill is being voted on right now for exampleThere is no Trump budget so again you speculate without actual facts and when that budget goes into effect IF it goes into effect it will be October 2017 and has nothing to do with the past. What is happening now is that Trump is spending the Obama budget items and we currently have less debt than when Trump took office. What CBO does is give OPINIONS not FACT. the only true fact is that it is a CBO report. what you are showing is the OP is exactly correct.
I wouldn't argue against greatly increasing pell grants
I agree tuition costs have got out of handUntil colleges and universities can be stopped from ripping off students, anything that starves the beast is a good thing.
If one were to allow themselves to rise above the propaganda, they would see the dramatic increase in tuition has no relationship to the results being seen by graduates.
College should be taxpayer funded and a growth industry instead of something putting students into deep debt so that investors can earn ROE by underwriting high interest loans.
The budget is not how we spend our bills. It never has been. The current defense authorization bill is being voted on right now for example
I agree tuition costs have got out of hand
The budget is a guideline by line item and it is appropriations that generate the spending, not the actual budget. We are operating under the Obama budget right now and any spending and appropriations are being done by Trump. There is no Trump deficit at this time as the revenue far exceeds the expenditures thanks to the jobs being created
The budget is a guideline by line item and it is appropriations that generate the spending, not the actual budget. We are operating under the Obama budget right now and any spending and appropriations are being done by Trump. There is no Trump deficit at this time as the revenue far exceeds the expenditures thanks to the jobs being created
How can I be more clear? Why aren't universities bastions of right wing thinking? How were they FORCED out? Was there a coup....and I missed it?
See the Powell Memorandum, the power structure was terrified democracy might break out in america during the 1960s-1970s.
The budget has no force of law at all. Decisions made now on appropriations now have nothing to do with Obama.
Of course there is a deficit
Though Powell’s memo was not the sole influence, the Chamber and corporate activists took his advice to heart and began building a powerful array of institutions designed to shift public attitudes and beliefs over the course of years and decades. The memo influenced or inspired the creation of the Heritage Foundation, the Manhattan Institute, the Cato Institute, Citizens for a Sound Economy, Accuracy in Academe, and other powerful organizations. Their long-term focus began paying off handsomely in the 1980s, in coordination with the Reagan Administration’s “hands-off business” philosophy.
No, sorry there isn't and I gave you the Treasury link to prove it. It is Treasury data that is factual and what goes to the debt
Until colleges and universities can be stopped from ripping off students, anything that starves the beast is a good thing.
If one were to allow themselves to rise above the propaganda, they would see the dramatic increase in tuition has no relationship to the results being seen by graduates.
LOL
Well, the research shows graduates have significant deficits in critical thinking skills, among other problems.
Washing away the rhetoric and implications the alt-left author featured in the OP is trying to sell, the primary problem with colleges and universities today is found in the horrendous cost they enslave students to cover, and the poor job they do in preparing students for a future career.
All people should be concerned with this result, as opposed to the lame attempt to suggest Republicans don't want people to receive college educations.
We live in a world where two years of college are almost required to make even a lick of sense of it. Four years in a discipline like engineering, dental hygiene, or accounting is enough for a good job. And, a minimum of six years in anything else is needed to even get a sniff at a good salary right out of college. A 4-year degree in Chemical Engineering, for example, is probably worth more than most Mater's Degrees and even a few PHD's in the liberal arts.
Of course, there is always the option of career development right out of high school through specialized vocational training, like HVAC, for example, but that leaves a person vulnerable to changing technologies, as we see with countless professions that no longer exist. Still, I would not be against a son or daughter becoming an underwater welder, electrician, hair stylist, robotics technician, web developer, etc. But, make no mistake, they are still left at a disadvantage when adapting to changes and understanding the world around them.
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