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Majority of Republican voters not planning on getting Covid vaccine

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Looks like the corrosive effects of Trump's toxic lies downplaying the seriousness of the Covid pandemic and its dismissal as some kind of "Democrat hoax" is continuing to kill, sicken, and maim Americans, most of all his own voters. This poll shows most of them now don't plan on getting the vaccine, a strategy which is likely to prolong the pandemic, make it more difficult to control for all of us, and continue killing and sickening Americans everywhere.

"A new poll of likely voters in Michigan showed that more than a quarter don't plan to get vaccinated for COVID-19, a finding that, if accurate, could extend the length of time it takes to move past the pandemic and could put more lives at risk.

The poll released Tuesday also found that while large percentages of self-identified Democrats and independents plan to get vaccinated, nearly half of Republicans — 47% — do not, compared with 46% who plan to be vaccinated...

Some national polls have shown similar results regarding the level of resistance among some Republicans to be vaccinated. The EPIC-MRA poll also indicated that college-educated Michiganders were more likely to get the vaccine, as were those who described themselves as moderate or liberal politically, compared with conservatives."

These Republican Michiganders probably did not hear that both Trump and Melania ended up secretly getting the vaccine themselves in January, right before he left office. This is despite the fact that he had the infection earlier, and likely already had some immunity against the virus already. Why did he keep it secret? He could do an enormous service to his voters by urging them to go ahead and get the vaccine. He has a cult-prophet level of credibility with them. He could very literally save their lives now with a few such simple words and encouragement, and yet he will not cross the street to piss on them even though they are literally on fire. It's all about him and his personal agenda. It was never about them.
 
These Republican Michiganders probably did not hear that both Trump and Melania ended up secretly getting the vaccine themselves in January, right before he left office. This is despite the fact that he had the infection earlier, and likely already had some immunity against the virus already. Why did he keep it secret? He could do an enormous service to his voters by urging them to go ahead and get the vaccine. He has a cult-prophet level of credibility with them. He could very literally save their lives now with a few such simple words and encouragement, and yet he will not cross the street to piss on them even though they are literally on fire. It's all about him and his personal agenda. It was never about them.

My wife got the Pfizer vaccine, but I won't. If I get Covid, and as I am healthy and not obese, the chances of medical complications are rare. If I am one of the minority of individuals that are healthy and not obese that actually does have complications.. C'est la vie.
 
Looks like the corrosive effects of Trump's toxic lies downplaying the seriousness of the Covid pandemic and its dismissal as some kind of "Democrat hoax" is continuing to kill, sicken, and maim Americans, most of all his own voters. This poll shows most of them now don't plan on getting the vaccine, a strategy which is likely to prolong the pandemic, make it more difficult to control for all of us, and continue killing and sickening Americans everywhere.

"A new poll of likely voters in Michigan showed that more than a quarter don't plan to get vaccinated for COVID-19, a finding that, if accurate, could extend the length of time it takes to move past the pandemic and could put more lives at risk.

The poll released Tuesday also found that while large percentages of self-identified Democrats and independents plan to get vaccinated, nearly half of Republicans — 47% — do not, compared with 46% who plan to be vaccinated...

Some national polls have shown similar results regarding the level of resistance among some Republicans to be vaccinated. The EPIC-MRA poll also indicated that college-educated Michiganders were more likely to get the vaccine, as were those who described themselves as moderate or liberal politically, compared with conservatives."

These Republican Michiganders probably did not hear that both Trump and Melania ended up secretly getting the vaccine themselves in January, right before he left office. This is despite the fact that he had the infection earlier, and likely already had some immunity against the virus already. Why did he keep it secret? He could do an enormous service to his voters by urging them to go ahead and get the vaccine. He has a cult-prophet level of credibility with them. He could very literally save their lives now with a few such simple words and encouragement, and yet he will not cross the street to piss on them even though they are literally on fire. It's all about him and his personal agenda. It was never about them.
I would not get too worked up over such a limited poll.
But consider that only some 26% are declared republicans so if 47% of 26% does not get vaccinated,
that still means that 87% of the population will get vaccinated.
Party Affiliation
 
My wife got the Pfizer vaccine, but I won't. If I get Covid, and as I am healthy and not obese, the chances of medical complications are rare. If I am one of the minority of individuals that are healthy and not obese that actually does have complications.. C'est la vie.

So if you get it, even if you don't get too sick yourself, and continue to propogate it among everyone else, potentially even killing them, or preventing herd immunity where we can all finally get rid of this pandemic, you could care less?
 
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My wife got the Pfizer vaccine, but I won't. If I get Covid, and as I am healthy and not obese, the chances of medical complications are rare. If I am one of the minority of individuals that are healthy and not obese that actually does have complications.. C'est la vie.
But the evidence is now pointing the the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines also cutting asymptomatic transmission sharply which was not anticipated. As such, getting vaccinated now adds an aspect of protection for the entire community on top of the herd immunity aspect. But of course Republicans only care about themselves. In your case, I guess you don't even care about yourself.

Whats the problem? Too busy hunting down Dr Seuss books and protesting toy manufacturers?

On top of all the ways Donnie Rotten bungled the Federal Covid Response, much influenced by his own rotten focus on self-aggrandizement bringing Radiologist Scott Atlas into the WH Covid task force to yammer about herd immunity via transmission might have been the worst of them. Herd immunity via transmission in a population of 330M people.....ah-huh. In large part, this is why we now have a race between vaccination and the variants, the virus mutations. Oh and just for good measure, the nitwit USELESS Trump CDC was not even conducting gene testing to track and trace variants. Nice job Donnie. Go to hell and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
 
If they're going to anti-vax for political reasons, then employers are probably going to have to require proof of vaccination.
 
Looks like the corrosive effects of Trump's toxic lies downplaying the seriousness of the Covid pandemic and its dismissal as some kind of "Democrat hoax" is continuing to kill, sicken, and maim Americans, most of all his own voters. This poll shows most of them now don't plan on getting the vaccine, a strategy which is likely to prolong the pandemic, make it more difficult to control for all of us, and continue killing and sickening Americans everywhere.

"A new poll of likely voters in Michigan showed that more than a quarter don't plan to get vaccinated for COVID-19, a finding that, if accurate, could extend the length of time it takes to move past the pandemic and could put more lives at risk.

The poll released Tuesday also found that while large percentages of self-identified Democrats and independents plan to get vaccinated, nearly half of Republicans — 47% — do not, compared with 46% who plan to be vaccinated...

Some national polls have shown similar results regarding the level of resistance among some Republicans to be vaccinated. The EPIC-MRA poll also indicated that college-educated Michiganders were more likely to get the vaccine, as were those who described themselves as moderate or liberal politically, compared with conservatives."

These Republican Michiganders probably did not hear that both Trump and Melania ended up secretly getting the vaccine themselves in January, right before he left office. This is despite the fact that he had the infection earlier, and likely already had some immunity against the virus already. Why did he keep it secret? He could do an enormous service to his voters by urging them to go ahead and get the vaccine. He has a cult-prophet level of credibility with them. He could very literally save their lives now with a few such simple words and encouragement, and yet he will not cross the street to piss on them even though they are literally on fire. It's all about him and his personal agenda. It was never about them.

At the risk of asking a super stupid question, if Republicans don't get vaccinated and everybody else does, then this would very specifically be a Republican problem.............right?
 
I would not get too worked up over such a limited poll.
But consider that only some 26% are declared republicans so if 47% of 26% does not get vaccinated,
that still means that 87% of the population will get vaccinated.
Party Affiliation

Nah, multiple polls have shown this phenomenon among Republican voters.

"Partisanship also plays a powerful role in influencing the public's outlook on a vaccine. Republicans (26%) are more than four times as likely as Democrats (6%) and nearly twice as likely as independents (14%) to say they would never get the coronavirus vaccine.

Nearly twice as many Democrats (49%) say they are willing to get the vaccine immediately as Republicans (28%). Just over four in 10 independents (42%) say the same. But the possibility of getting vaccinated in the future breaks through party lines. An equal 45% of Democrats, Republicans, and independents said they would first wait before getting a vaccine."

I bet you that number among Republican voters would skyrocket even past the Democrats if Trump just says one or two words of encouragement to them to go ahead and get the vaccine. After all, he got it himself.

Why did he keep it secret? Why won't he encourage mask-wearing and vaccination for his voters to keep them safe? Isn't it clear this is not about them, their welfare, health, or safety, but rather a very sick and cynical political game he is playing with their lives for personal power?
 
Looks like the corrosive effects of Trump's toxic lies downplaying the seriousness of the Covid pandemic and its dismissal as some kind of "Democrat hoax" is continuing to kill, sicken, and maim Americans, most of all his own voters. This poll shows most of them now don't plan on getting the vaccine, a strategy which is likely to prolong the pandemic, make it more difficult to control for all of us, and continue killing and sickening Americans everywhere.

"A new poll of likely voters in Michigan showed that more than a quarter don't plan to get vaccinated for COVID-19, a finding that, if accurate, could extend the length of time it takes to move past the pandemic and could put more lives at risk.

The poll released Tuesday also found that while large percentages of self-identified Democrats and independents plan to get vaccinated, nearly half of Republicans — 47% — do not, compared with 46% who plan to be vaccinated...

Some national polls have shown similar results regarding the level of resistance among some Republicans to be vaccinated. The EPIC-MRA poll also indicated that college-educated Michiganders were more likely to get the vaccine, as were those who described themselves as moderate or liberal politically, compared with conservatives."

These Republican Michiganders probably did not hear that both Trump and Melania ended up secretly getting the vaccine themselves in January, right before he left office. This is despite the fact that he had the infection earlier, and likely already had some immunity against the virus already. Why did he keep it secret? He could do an enormous service to his voters by urging them to go ahead and get the vaccine. He has a cult-prophet level of credibility with them. He could very literally save their lives now with a few such simple words and encouragement, and yet he will not cross the street to piss on them even though they are literally on fire. It's all about him and his personal agenda. It was never about them.
Maybe that's a divine outworking to cull away the ignorant, cult worshiping Trumper's and Right Wing Nuts and disbelievers in the gift of knowledge God gave to man to have sciences and medicine, Hopefully they stay among themselves during their spreading of the virus... That in itself won't be a bad deal for America, we've already seen the amass and attack the U.S. Capitol and launch continual assaults upon and against America Democracy.

Trump lied to Americans and the world and convinced these people to believe his lies, but we see his pathetic lying ass did not hesitate to get himself vaccinated.
 
If they're going to anti-vax for political reasons, then employers are probably going to have to require proof of vaccination
I suspect employers and certain businesses like airlines and cruise lines will require proof of vaccination. As much as I had looked forward to a special river cruise, there is no way I will go on any cruise that does not demand proof of vaccination.
 
At the risk of asking a super stupid question, if Republicans don't get vaccinated and everybody else does, then this would very specifically be a Republican problem.............right?
As long as they keep it in their gerrymandered containment zones, then we can live with that, they might not make it, but at least the respecters who understand the severity of the virus and the benefits of science can move forward in advancing and strengthen American Democracy. (they made the choice, so if they succumb to it, it was by their own choosing).
Besides, I don't think the Medical Professionals, should have to "continue" to risk their lives for these people who have no concern about the lives of the medical professionals or respect for the lives of anyone else.
 
My wife got the Pfizer vaccine, but I won't. If I get Covid, and as I am healthy and not obese, the chances of medical complications are rare. If I am one of the minority of individuals that are healthy and not obese that actually does have complications.. C'est la vie.

If you get C19 and then pass it on to someone else who dies from it....C'est la vie? Are you at least gonna do the right thing and stay away from older folks or obese folks?
 
Why did he keep it secret? Why won't he encourage mask-wearing and vaccination for his voters to keep them safe? Isn't it clear this is not about them, their welfare, health, or safety, but rather a very sick and cynical political game he is playing with their lives for personal power?
It was vanity/ego pure and simple. Trump can't stand the thought of looking weak or vulnerable even though getting your shot publicly and wearing a mask is actually a sign of strength and leadership. The man has no character whatsoever.
 
What if I told you that my reasons for not getting the vaccine (ironic, given my signature) have nothing to do with political affiliation, anything Trump has ever said, or liberal/conservative values?
 
Nah, multiple polls have shown this phenomenon among Republican voters.

"Partisanship also plays a powerful role in influencing the public's outlook on a vaccine. Republicans (26%) are more than four times as likely as Democrats (6%) and nearly twice as likely as independents (14%) to say they would never get the coronavirus vaccine.

Nearly twice as many Democrats (49%) say they are willing to get the vaccine immediately as Republicans (28%). Just over four in 10 independents (42%) say the same. But the possibility of getting vaccinated in the future breaks through party lines. An equal 45% of Democrats, Republicans, and independents said they would first wait before getting a vaccine."

I bet you that number among Republican voters would skyrocket even past the Democrats if Trump just says one or two words of encouragement to them to go ahead and get the vaccine. After all, he got it himself.

Why did he keep it secret? Why won't he encourage mask-wearing and vaccination for his voters to keep them safe? Isn't it clear this is not about them, their welfare, health, or safety, but rather a very sick and cynical political game he is playing with their lives for personal power?
Your words still do not change the numbers!
47% of 26%,is still only 12.2% of the population.
 
I would not get too worked up over such a limited poll.
But consider that only some 26% are declared republicans so if 47% of 26% does not get vaccinated,
that still means that 87% of the population will get vaccinated.
Party Affiliation
Which is more than enough to establish herd immunity, which is the entire goal :)
 
He has a cult-prophet level of credibility with them. He could very literally save their lives now with a few such simple words and encouragement, and yet he will not cross the street to piss on them even though they are literally on fire. It's all about him and his personal agenda. It was never about them.
That's it, right on point! His cult worshipers who are gullible enough to follow the lies of an ignorant conman, are brainwashed idiots. Unfortunately, they don't only harm themselves and their families, it spreads throughout the United States. That's the Trump Klan Party, lack of brains, lack of humanity, lack of patriotism.......pathetic mob, cancer to our society.
 
What if I told you that my reasons for not getting the vaccine (ironic, given my signature) have nothing to do with political affiliation, anything Trump has ever said, or liberal/conservative values?
You can say your decision has nothing to do with political affiliation, but it’s interesting how directly correlated political affiliation seems to be with vaccination refusal.
 
What if I told you that my reasons for not getting the vaccine (ironic, given my signature) have nothing to do with political affiliation, anything Trump has ever said, or liberal/conservative values?
if you get infected... it may be a challenge that you won't like very well.
 
So if you get it, even if you don't get too sick yourself, and continue to propogate it among everyone else, potentially even killing them, or preventing herd immunity where we can all finally get rid of this pandemic, you could care less?

I would hope the people that are in danger of complications (the Obese, old etc) get the vaccine. So, the chances of "killing them" would be extremely small.

What was it, 80% of those that were hospitalized by COVID were obese (check the stat, but that was close) and the countries with the most obese people had far higher death rates then countries with less - don't recall the percentage increase.
 
You can say your decision has nothing to do with political affiliation, but it’s interesting how directly correlated political affiliation seems to be with vaccination refusal.
I'm waiting for the VA to offer the J&J vaccine (the VA currently only offers Pfizer). Which political affiliation would that put me under?
 
I already got my first shot, and will get the second in about 2 weeks.
 
if you get infected... it may be a challenge that you won't like very well.
See what you just typed is an example of fear-mongering. I'm not going to take a substandard vaccine just because the people around me are afraid. I'll wait for modern medicine to make a solid vaccine. Small-pox took 4 years. These things take time.
 
Looks like the corrosive effects of Trump's toxic lies downplaying the seriousness of the Covid pandemic and its dismissal as some kind of "Democrat hoax" is continuing to kill, sicken, and maim Americans, most of all his own voters. This poll shows most of them now don't plan on getting the vaccine, a strategy which is likely to prolong the pandemic, make it more difficult to control for all of us, and continue killing and sickening Americans everywhere.

"A new poll of likely voters in Michigan showed that more than a quarter don't plan to get vaccinated for COVID-19, a finding that, if accurate, could extend the length of time it takes to move past the pandemic and could put more lives at risk.

The poll released Tuesday also found that while large percentages of self-identified Democrats and independents plan to get vaccinated, nearly half of Republicans — 47% — do not, compared with 46% who plan to be vaccinated...

Some national polls have shown similar results regarding the level of resistance among some Republicans to be vaccinated. The EPIC-MRA poll also indicated that college-educated Michiganders were more likely to get the vaccine, as were those who described themselves as moderate or liberal politically, compared with conservatives."

These Republican Michiganders probably did not hear that both Trump and Melania ended up secretly getting the vaccine themselves in January, right before he left office. This is despite the fact that he had the infection earlier, and likely already had some immunity against the virus already. Why did he keep it secret? He could do an enormous service to his voters by urging them to go ahead and get the vaccine. He has a cult-prophet level of credibility with them. He could very literally save their lives now with a few such simple words and encouragement, and yet he will not cross the street to piss on them even though they are literally on fire. It's all about him and his personal agenda. It was never about them.
Ahh, anti-vaxxers. So happy they've become mainstream.
 
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