The Giant Noodle
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I disagree (with your assertion that this is the case here, not with this general idea).Power corrupts.
I would think that those deaths would increase in actuality. The last alcohol prohibition led to complete lawlessness from the black market and since people would have to drive to speakeasys again and then would not have the legal recourse of hailing a cab or getting a tow back to their destination the risk:reward would dictate to many that it is just "worth it" to chance an OWI and drive home since getting caught for being inoxicated would lead to criminal charges anyway. But then again MADD has no common sense and uses biased statistics and dirty lobbying to get their agenda through so none of that would matter if they did have actual intelligence.**** MADD. I hate that organization. And of course they were going to go this route; they want to have zero drunk driving deaths. The only way to get that is to seek out prohibition.
“The biggest problem in reducing drunk driving fatalities now consists of the hard core of alcoholic drivers who repeatedly drive with BAC’s of .15 or higher,” says Dr. David Hanson, professor emeritus at the State University of New York/Potsdam. “But MADD has now decided to go after social drinkers and to eliminate driving after drinking any amount of alcohol beverage. This change appears to reflect the influence of a growing neo-prohibitionist movement within MADD.”
Hell, it can be installed voluntarily for those people who want to be sure they don't drink and drive if I'm not mistaken.Car builders will fight this as an unnecessary expense given that only a very small percentage of the population drink and drive, and alcohol detectors should only be required on cars belonging to problem drinkers, at their expense....
Hell, it can be installed voluntarily for those people who want to be sure they don't drink and drive if I'm not mistaken.
Maybe it's the area I live in but there is such a thing as "responsible alcoholics" believe it or not. They are functional, never drive, make sure that the bills are paid first, etc. but by any psychologists or medical practitioners standards are alcoholics.Well, if we are talking about "responsible" alcoholics, I guess they could...:roll:
The difference between drinking, and driving after having any amount of alcoholic beverage is vast. Driving is not a requirement of drinking.
No it is not. But their stated goal is to have zero drunk driving on the roads. The problem is that sure individually you can say any one person can choose to drink and not drive. However, aggregated over the populace if you have both alcohol and driving as legal acts; then there will be a non zero number of drinking and driving incidents; particularly if we're defining drinking and driving as driving after any amount of alcohol. As a result, practically if you want zero incidents of drinking and driving you have to ban either cars or alcohol.
Although there are polls that say 8% of people within the last year have driven illegally under the ultra-low .08 limit, the more truthful amount is over 34% of the US population. And while engaged to a cop I would say about 80% of the police department has driven "drunk" to MADD's standards every 2 weeks.Car builders will fight this as an unnecessary expense given that only a very small percentage of the population drink and drive, and alcohol detectors should only be required on cars belonging to problem drinkers, at their expense....
This is all very interesting to me, but there was no link to an article. Did you write this yourself?
Also, are there stats on drunk driving fatalities -- how many are caused by the 'social' drinker vs. the habitual heavy drinker?
I am not for prohibition or mandatory devices in cars etc., but I think we always need to promote a 'drink responsibly' message. We should never promote the notion that all 'social' drinkers can always drive safely -- as many heavy drinkers consider themselves to be 'social' drinkers.
social drinker
n.
A person who drinks alcoholic beverages in moderation, chiefly when socializing.
The statistics youre asking for were around about 9 months ago but the websites which had much of that information has actually been shut down by lawsuits on behalf of MADD.
Stats are very fuzzy because the NHTSA and MADD are almost one in the same. They even "trade" employees. The founder of MADD has been known to say negative things about MADD now that they left because of their current objectives and practices.
Although there are polls that say 8% of people within the last year have driven illegally under the ultra-low .08 limit, the more truthful amount is over 34% of the US population. And while engaged to a cop I would say about 80% of the police department has driven "drunk" to MADD's standards every 2 weeks.
social drinker
n.
A person who drinks alcoholic beverages in moderation, chiefly when socializing.
The statistics youre asking for were around about 9 months ago but the websites which had much of that information has actually been shut down by lawsuits on behalf of MADD.
Not ONLY does one have to worry about the REAL legal limit.. but bad cops Video shows Chicago DUI cop lied in police report - National Civil Liberties | Examiner.com
Former Top DUI Cop Faces False Arrest Lawsuits
There were 150+ DUIs overturned in just Illinois last year because of crooked cops. A DUI to them is a BIG fish. I cant speak for all areas in the Country but here... they are.
In the last 3 years there were al least 3 crooked cops that have faked DUIs to get benefits for themselves!!! And that are ones that got caught!
Stats are very fuzzy because the NHTSA and MADD are almost one in the same. They even "trade" employees. The founder of MADD has been known to say negative things about MADD now that they left because of their current objectives and practices.
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Your website poped up as a trojan dude.
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