France will recognize a Palestinian state at the United Nations General Assembly in September, French President Emmanuel Macron said on Thursday, adding that he hoped it would help bring peace to the region.
Macron, who announced the decision on X, published a letter sent to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas confirming France's intention to become the first major Western power to recognize a Palestinian state.
I hope Canada and other countries follow Macron's lead on this. The genocide has to be stopped and as an enthusiastic participant America is not going to do it.
I hope Canada and other countries follow Macron's lead on this. The genocide has to be stopped and as an enthusiastic participant America is not going to do it.
He is?Great and he’s ready to take control of Gaza
An Israeli death squad assassinated Folke Bernadotte, the UN mediator, in September of 1948, so assuming Israel would have simply gone along with the whatever plan the British came up with is not supported by the evidence.Britain had actually controlled the land after the Ottoman Empire fell due to conquest - for better or worse the way national land ownership has been decided - so it actually had the power to create Israel in 1948 (after the would-be Palestinian/Arab state rejected the 1947 UN compromise because it meant there would be a Jewish state next door).
France hasn't single-handedly or with allies overthrown a government controlling the area in which this state it wishes to declare is supposed to exist. Unless France is threatening to invade Israel I'm not sure what it would accomplish beyond being a gesture. There's still a war on and there are still no legitimate potential governing bodies.
There's Hamas, which despite being largely crippled, is and always will be on it's founding mission to destroy Israel, kill all the Jews, establish a global Islamic Caliphate. And then there's the PLO, generally seen by Palestinians as corrupt and useless.
So while a two-state solution is the only possible solution, this does sound like it will be a meaningless gesture.
Israel has already proven, repeatedly, a Hamas “surrender” would not end Israeli attacks on Palestinian civilians.Great and he’s ready to take control of Gaza, but only if outside forces manage to get Hamas to surrender and leave.
He is?
Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas urged Hamas to release the hostages it is holding and hand over its weapons to the PA, stressing that the terror group “will not rule the Gaza Strip” after the war there ends.
Fall? Ol' Bibi will probably have killed all the Palestinian civilians by then.I hope Canada and other countries follow Macron's lead on this. The genocide has to be stopped and as an enthusiastic participant America is not going to do it.
Netanyahu's continuing torture of trapped Palestinian civilians has not eliminated Hamas. It's likely produced more anti-Israel sentiment among more people.Britain had actually controlled the land after the Ottoman Empire fell due to conquest - for better or worse the way national land ownership has been decided - so it actually had the power to create Israel in 1948 (after the would-be Palestinian/Arab state rejected the 1947 UN compromise because it meant there would be a Jewish state next door).
France hasn't single-handedly or with allies overthrown a government controlling the area in which this state it wishes to declare is supposed to exist. Unless France is threatening to invade Israel I'm not sure what it would accomplish beyond being a gesture. There's still a war on and there are still no legitimate potential governing bodies.
There's Hamas, which despite being largely crippled, is and always will be on it's founding mission to destroy Israel, kill all the Jews, establish a global Islamic Caliphate. Putting them in charge only guarantees more conflict. And then there's the PLO, generally seen by Palestinians as corrupt and useless.
So while a two-state solution is the only possible solution, this does sound like it will be a meaningless gesture.
You mean Abbas, not Macron.Yep.
Abbas urges Hamas to free hostages, says terror group won’t rule postwar Gaza
Meeting former UK premier Tony Blair in Amman, Palestinian Authority president calls on rival to cede its arms and let Ramallah take over governing Stripwww.timesofisrael.com
Lol Abbas’ day has long since past. He’s seen as a deeply corrupt collaborator with the Israelis by most Palestinians, and he has no influence over Hamas in the first place.Yep.
Abbas urges Hamas to free hostages, says terror group won’t rule postwar Gaza
Meeting former UK premier Tony Blair in Amman, Palestinian Authority president calls on rival to cede its arms and let Ramallah take over governing Stripwww.timesofisrael.com
Netanyahu's actions have given other countries no choice but to recognize Palestine in an effort (probably futile) to stop the Israeli Government's war crimes in the Gaza Strip.I hope Canada and other countries follow Macron's lead on this. The genocide has to be stopped and as an enthusiastic participant America is not going to do it.
You mean Abbas, not Macron.
Not enough, yet.Yep, what has Macron done to impact the situation in Gaza?
Where exactly?I hope Canada and other countries follow Macron's lead on this. The genocide has to be stopped and as an enthusiastic participant America is not going to do it.
The Brits had previously controlled all this area. They decided to change that in 1947 and establish a Jewish state and an Arab state. Here's a better explantaion. https://lsa.umich.edu/content/dam/c...stine/Section1_UnitedNationsPartitionPlan.pdfAn Israeli death squad assassinated Folke Bernadotte, the UN mediator, in September of 1948, so assuming Israel would have simply gone along with the whatever plan the British came up with is not supported by the evidence.
France has been a long time supplier of arms to Israel— their first major supplier, in fact— so the shift is a significant move on Macron’s part.
Israel has murdered more innocent civilians in a year than Hamas has in its entire existence.
Freedom Fries time again?I hope Canada and other countries follow Macron's lead on this. The genocide has to be stopped and as an enthusiastic participant America is not going to do it.
Once again, the Israelis assassinated the UN mediator whose job it was to hammer out a workable peace deal in the first place. They’d also been shooting at the British on and off for the past four years, so the assumption they’d simply agree to London’s plans is assuming an awful lot.Where exactly?
The Brits had previously controlled all this area. They decided to change that in 1947 and establish a Jewish state and an Arab state. Here's a better explantaion. https://lsa.umich.edu/content/dam/c...stine/Section1_UnitedNationsPartitionPlan.pdf
I hope Canada and other countries follow Macron's lead on this. The genocide has to be stopped and as an enthusiastic participant America is not going to do it.
Constant conflict in 1963, 67, and 73 continued to end with Israel in control of the spaces. I don't see where the Palestinians have much claim. The started the war that led to Israel's taking land. The Palestinians tried several times to take it back and failed. Along the way the various Palestinian groups attacked Israel in the form of constant rocket attacks into Israel. I think Macron needs to do a history review before he makes a mistake that is going to make things worse. The old saying is, "to the victor goes the spoils". Then you have the current conflict in which Hamas, a terror group, attacked civilians on Oct 7 and killed, tortured, raped, Israeli men, women, children and then took hundreds of hostages. Many of the hostages have died and many remain as hostages. The current conflict was clearly started by Hamas and supported by Palestinians in the region.Where exactly?
The Brits had previously controlled all this area. They decided to change that in 1947 and establish a Jewish state and an Arab state. Here's a better explantaion. https://lsa.umich.edu/content/dam/c...stine/Section1_UnitedNationsPartitionPlan.pdf
MOst of Europe doesn't recognize the Palestinian state.France Will Recognize Palestinian Statehood, Macron Says
The announcement sets France apart from the United States and most of its close allies, and could cause friction with President Trump.www.nytimes.com
...“Today the most urgent thing is that the war in Gaza cease and the civilian population be helped,” Mr. Macron said.
Most nations of the world recognize Palestine as a nation, but the United States and most of its close allies do not. With Mr. Macron’s decision, France would become the first of the Group of 7 major industrialized nations — also including the United States, Britain, Canada, Germany, Japan and Italy — to do so.
The move appeared likely to irk the Trump administration as it pursues its own attempts to end the war in Gaza.
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Hmmm....could this complicate trump's plans to get rid of 2.1 million Palestinians in the Strip and to build a big, beautiful resort?
Not enough, yet.
I'd like to see a European led multinational force go in under the authority of the UN. Get aid flowing and take over negotiations to get the hostages freed. Followed up by rebuilding and UN monitored elections.
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