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Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

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Englishmen are a lot better at taking things than they are at giving them. The Maori were better off before.
with all respect they were not better back than, according all indexes, you talk pure Marxism now . Maori lived in protein alway hungry, extreme poor , stone age and violent society . Geographical isolation can not protect Maori anymore , without Englishmen NZ´d be colonize by the Han hordes many years ago , and we ´d forget very soon about very existence of Maoris
 

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with all respect they were not better back than, according all indexes, you talk pure Marxism now . Maori lived in protein alway hungry, extreme poor , stone age and violent society . Geographical isolation can not protect Maori anymore , without Englishmen NZ´d be colonize by the Han hordes many years ago , and we ´d forget very soon about very existence of Maoris
Don't give a **** about indexes. Leave native people to their native ways.
 

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No. I think pretending that English invading Maori Land was a good thing is ****ing stupid.
British empire was greatest thing which ´d happened to a stone age man. are you against progress, and civilization , reality ?
 

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British empire was greatest thing which ´d happened to a stone age man. are you against progress, and civilization , reality ?
Am I against "progress and civilization"? When it comes at the cost of traditional native lifestyle, absolutely. 100%
 

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Am I against "progress and civilization"? When it comes at the cost of traditional native lifestyle, absolutely. 100%
what do you know about Maori people daily live before Englishmen arrival with World best tools and knowledge of human civilization ?
 

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what do you know about Maori people daily live before Englishmen arrival with World best tools and knowledge of human civilization ?
Nothing. Let the Maori do whatever they do. I don't care.
 

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Nothing. Let the Maori do whatever they do. I don't care.
so my friend i am here to help you fill up this gap, watch this (daily live of a strong stone age man, women , children, invalids have had it way WORST ). by the way do you know that the Maoris committed many genocides of other weaker native nations in NZ ?

 

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so my friend i am here to help you fill up this gap, watch this (daily live of a strong stone age man, women , children, invalids have had it way WORST ). by the way do you know that the Maoris committed many genocides of other weaker native nations in NZ ?

That's not even a video on the Maori. Again, don't care. Let the Maori live and die by their own hands.
 

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That's not even a video on the Maori. Again, don't care. Let the Maori live and die by their own hands.
do you think that warlike man-dominated stone races were much differ from each other ? you did not answer about Maori genocides of more peaceful NZ native nations , why?
 

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do you think that warlike man-dominated stone races were much differ from each other ? you did not answer about Maori genocides of more peaceful NZ native nations , why?
Of course, every culture is different, even stone age ones. Different traditions, rituals, languages, different geography and food sources.

The Maori were the first humans on New Zealand.
 

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Of course, every culture is different, even stone age ones. Different traditions, rituals, languages, different geography and food sources.

The Maori were the first humans on New Zealand.
1) so are suggesting that the Maori did not represent warlike man-dominated stone- age nation before arriving of Englishmen ?
2) The Sad Story of the Moriori, Who Learned to Live at the Edge of the World - Atlas Obscura Moriori - Wikipedia and
"According to Maori tradition, the first inhabitants of New Zealand were a ... dark-skinned, having big or protuberant bones, flat-faced and flat-nosed, with upturned nostrils. ... The writer has seen many natives showing these peculiarities among the ... This seems an important point, until one remembers that any isolated folk of ..."
 

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1) so are suggesting that the Maori did not represent warlike man-dominated stone- age nation before arriving of Englishmen ?
2) The Sad Story of the Moriori, Who Learned to Live at the Edge of the World - Atlas Obscura Moriori - Wikipedia and
"According to Maori tradition, the first inhabitants of New Zealand were a ... dark-skinned, having big or protuberant bones, flat-faced and flat-nosed, with upturned nostrils. ... The writer has seen many natives showing these peculiarities among the ... This seems an important point, until one remembers that any isolated folk of ..."
I'm suggesting that using a video about a culture from the other side of the world and thousands of years before is a pretty stupid way to try to understand the Maori.

There is no archeological evidence of any settlement of New Zealand prior to the Maori.
 

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I'm suggesting that using a video about a culture from the other side of the world and thousands of years before is a pretty stupid way to try to understand the Maori.

There is no archeological evidence of any settlement of New Zealand prior to the Maori.
stone-age warlike heavily man dominated race, do you agree?
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panty ,you just dont want to see them . the Maoris not just killed , they cannibalized the black natives who lived in NZ before them ...
 

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stone-age warlike heavily man dominated race, do you agree?
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panty ,you just dont want to see them . the Maoris not just killed , they cannibalized the black natives who lived in NZ before them ...
I feel no particular urge to endorse your one dimensional view of the Maori.

There is no archeological evidence of any human habitation of New Zealand prior to the arrival of the Maori. If you have proof otherwise, please show it.
 

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I feel no particular urge to endorse your one dimensional view of the Maori.

There is no archeological evidence of any human habitation of New Zealand prior to the arrival of the Maori. If you have proof otherwise, please show it.
its not main : "Maori cannibalism was widespread throughout New Zealand until the mid 1800s but has largely been ignored in history books, says the author of a new book released this week.

Paul Moon said his new book, This Horrid Practice, looked at the Maori tradition of eating each other in what was a particularly violent society before Europeans arrived in New Zealand.

Cannibalism lasted for several hundred years until the 1830s although there were a few isolated cases after that, said Professor Moon, a Pakeha history professor at Te Ara Poutama, the Maori Development Unit at the Auckland University of Technology.

He also said infanticide was also widely practised because tribes wanted men to be warriors and mothers often killed their female daughters by smothering them or pushing a finger through the soft tissue of the skull to kill them immediately.

He said the widespread practice of cannibalism was not a food issue but people were eaten often as part of a post-battle rage. Enemies were often captured and killed later to be eaten or killed because of a minor transgression.

"Rather than disposing of the body it was prepared to be eaten,'' he said.

Part of the practice was also to send a warning to other tribes....The head of the Maori Studies Department at Auckland University, Professor Margaret Mutu, who had not read Prof Moon's book, said cannibalism was widespread throughout New Zealand.

"It was definitely there. It's recorded in all sorts of ways in our histories and traditions, a lot of place names refer to it."

Maori cannibalism widespread but ignored, academic says | Stuff.co.nz

watch the move you ´ll get more information about stone age " paradise "
 
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