Lynch to Remove Herself From Decision Over Clinton Emails, Official Says [W:225]

[Moderate Right]

What is it exactly that disgusts you about American "Conservatism"? Could it be personal responsibility, smaller govt., states' rights? You seem very confused by the definition of Conservatism and what many in the Republican party have done but regardless the Republican Party today beats the Party of Pelosi, Reid, Obama, and Hillary when it comes to the principles upon which this country was Founded

To him conservatism means the rich taking advantage of the poor. I'm not sure he understands that a huge majority of conservatives are not rich.

 

[Conservative]

To him conservatism means the rich taking advantage of the poor. I'm not sure he understands that a huge majority of conservatives are not rich.

If someone hates the rich, makes you wonder why they would support Hillary? What we see from people like Frank is a double standard, on one hand we have a booming stock market with the rich getting richer but then giving Credit to Hillary for promoting Wall street efforts and benefiting from policies she helped implement

 

[Moderate Right]

If someone hates the rich, makes you wonder why they would support Hillary? What we see from people like Frank is a double standard, on one hand we have a booming stock market with the rich getting richer but then giving Credit to Hillary for promoting Wall street efforts and benefiting from policies she helped implement

Bingo! The universe is filled with chaos.

 

[Frank Apisa]

You aren't a democrat yet Ive not seen you support a conservative policy.

My position on gun control and capital punishment are much closer to conservative policy than to liberal.

You support multiple liberal and democrat policies. If it walks like a duck....

I do. But that does not make me a Democrat or liberal any more than my support for some conservative/Republican policies make me a Republican.

Keep up, Owl.

 

[jimbo]

Anyone covering for or interfering with a criminal investigation should be removed from their job. She is not exempt. Neither is hillary. But as long as people keep voting these corrupt people in, this will continue to happen.

Lest we forget, Hillary and Lynch had the same boss.

 

[EnigmaO01]

sure she has. she is just as bad as Holder at this job who made Janet Reno look like the best AG that ever walked.
she is nothing more than another Obama political hack that needs to go back to law school

That's just your opinion and you know what they say about opinions.

 

[Frank Apisa]

What is it exactly that disgusts you about American "Conservatism"?

Damn near everything.

Thank you for asking.

Could it be personal responsibility, smaller govt., states' rights? You seem very confused by the definition of Conservatism and what many in the Republican party have done but regardless the Republican Party today beats the Party of Pelosi, Reid, Obama, and Hillary when it comes to the principles upon which this country was Founded

There is nothing more disgusting than conservatives liking their policies to the policies of the founders of this country and their principles.

The conservatives of their day considered the founders to be traitors...and their policies to be treasonous.

Wake the hell up.

 

[Frank Apisa]

To him conservatism means the rich taking advantage of the poor. I'm not sure he understands that a huge majority of conservatives are not rich.

I understand lots more than people like you are willing to acknowledge. So take your smarmy remarks and...well...just take 'em.

 

[Frank Apisa]

If someone hates the rich, makes you wonder why they would support Hillary? What we see from people like Frank is a double standard, on one hand we have a booming stock market with the rich getting richer but then giving Credit to Hillary for promoting Wall street efforts and benefiting from policies she helped implement

I don't hate anyone.

Most, hell, damn near ALL, of my close friends are staunch conservatives.

Several of my friends and a couple of my relatives...are rich, by most standards...and I love them.

It does take a strong stomach, however, to tolerate many Internet conservatives.

 

[Conservative]

Damn near everything.

Thank you for asking.




There is nothing more disgusting than conservatives liking their policies to the policies of the founders of this country and their principles.

The conservatives of their day considered the founders to be traitors...and their policies to be treasonous.

Wake the hell up.

Really? So then your statement about guns and capital punishment is a lie? Again very little in specifics as you seem to truly not understand conservative principles and want to lump everyone into the same boat ignoring that conservative principles are what made this country great, personal responsibility, neighbor not govt. helping neighbor, part time legislature, small central govt. focused on national defense, social programs at the state and local level. Those are conservative principles so tell me which of those you disagree with?

You continue to show how little you know about basic conservatism

 

[Conservative]

I don't hate anyone.

Most, hell, damn near ALL, of my close friends are staunch conservatives.

Several of my friends and a couple of my relatives...are rich, by most standards...and I love them.

It does take a strong stomach, however, to tolerate many Internet conservatives.

What you continue to show are personal biases and ignorance about true conservatism

 

[Μολὼν λαβέ]

To him conservatism means the rich taking advantage of the poor. I'm not sure he understands that a huge majority of conservatives are not rich.

Democrats with their collective heads' in a ground hole; oft they forget. Advantage was taken of the poorest of the poor by non-other than the poster boy for civil rights. Dems won't acknowledge that either.

Just like Hillary, all the have to say is that something didn't happen and boom, it didn't happen.

“I’ll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.”
~ Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One

The Democratic Party's Two-Facedness of Race Relations

 

[Frank Apisa]

First a word about the topic, since this seems to be another thread where I become the topic to the conservatives.

Lynch did the right thing in removing herself from the decisions. I support her doing that...and I will accept whatever comes down the line for Hillary Clinton...in her favor or against her.

I know many of my conservative colleagues will not if the decision is in her favor, but tough for them.

Really? So then your statement about guns and capital punishment is a lie?

No...it is not a lie.

Does "damn near everything" mean the same as "absolutely everything?"

C'mon. Be better. I don't want to pick on losers.

Again very little in specifics as you seem to truly not understand conservative principles and want to lump everyone into the same boat ignoring that conservative principles are what made this country great, personal responsibility, neighbor not govt. helping neighbor, part time legislature, small central govt. focused on national defense, social programs at the state and local level. Those are conservative principles so tell me which of those you disagree with?

I despise what American conservatism is doing to this country. Many, definitely not all, conservatives are of the "hooray for me, screw you" mentality...and anyone who does NOT despise that, is sick.

You continue to show how little you know about basic conservatism

You continue to think that people who disagree with you are ignorant.

You ought to get over that.

 

[Frank Apisa]

First a word about the topic, because some people seem intent on making me and my opinions the subject instead of the OP.

Lynch, a political appointee, is much better off removing herself from the decision...and allowing the decision process to be handled by functionaries in the department.

I am happy she did so. And I will live with whatever the investigators and prosecutors come up with.

If they consider the affair reasonably benign, as I do, I expect American conservatives to throw one of their hissy fits...and I will enjoy watching it.

What you continue to show are personal biases and ignorance about true conservatism

What you continue to show is a need to be personally insulting when people disagree with you.

True to get over that. It will make you a better person.

 

[Moderate Right]

Lynch did the right thing in removing herself from the decisions. Gotta wonder if she did this meeting on purpose so that she could remove herself from the decisions. She's far too smart to have done this meeting in the first place.

I despise what American conservatism is doing to this country. Many, definitely not all, conservatives are of the "hooray for me, screw you" mentality The majority of American conservatives are not rich so how could this be their mentality?

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[eohrnberger]

I always contend that "words matter" and the Obama administration has show repeatedly that they feel the same. They've also shown that they have no problem changing the impression their words make on people when they do something that is contrary to that impression.

For that reason, I don't place much importance or confidence on Lynch's declaration that she'll accept someone else's "recommendation" or her unstated implication that she will not be the final decision-maker. Sorry, but there are just too many weasel words being bandied about by her and too many interpretations by the media to tell people what she really means by those weasel words.

The Obama administration has shown time and again that what they say isn't necessarily indicative of what they mean and what they'll do. I see no reason to trust them to be open and honest this time.

Agreed.

This president and his administration have so often said one thing and either done another, or we've later come to find out that it's not at all as they unequivocally stated it was.

Yet another low point for the nation when the president and his administration purposefully and willfully lie to the electorate and no one calls them out on it, and should someone call them out on it, no trace of embarrassment, shame, or contrition, only arrogance at being questioned and doubling down on that same lie. And lower still, that it's accepted by the electorate rather than being rebuked.

 

[Frank Apisa]

.....Gotta wonder if she did this meeting on purpose so that she could remove herself from the decisions. She's far too smart to have done this meeting in the first place.

Could be. Any comments would be speculation. Although turning down a request to say "Hello" from an ex-president WHO MAY ACCIDENTALLY BEEN IN THE SAME PLACE...is not easy.

The majority of American conservatives are not rich so how could this be their mentality?

One doesn't have to be "rich" to feel, "Hooray for me, screw you."

One merely has to be a scumbag type. That applies even to some people I love.

You are right, though. The majority of American conservatives are not rich.

 

[nota bene]

Back to the topic and from the Observer:

An exclusive interview with a security source who was present at the unplanned meeting Monday night on a Phoenix tarmac between former President Bill Clinton and Attorney General Lorretta Lynch has shed additional light on an unusual summit that is embroiling the AG in charges of favoritism. As attorney general, Lynch heads the Department of Justice just as it is deciding whether to proceed with charges against Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton over her use of a private email server during her tenure as President Obama’s secretary of state.

...According to this source, whose credentials were checked and confirmed by the Observer with sources inside both the FBI and the United States Secret Service, the attorney general was caught completely off guard by the meeting and the source dismisses suggestions that have been raised alleging that she waited there to see Bill Clinton or accommodated his request to see him. In fact, it seems from this source that it was Bill Clinton who was maneuvering for face time with the attorney general, because his plane had been scheduled to leave before hers arrived. EXCLUSIVE: Security Source Details Bill Clinton Maneuver to Meet Loretta Lynch | | Observer

 

[Frank Apisa]

Agreed.

This president and his administration have so often said one thing and either done another, or we've later come to find out that it's not at all as they unequivocally stated it was.

Yet another low point for the nation when the president and his administration purposefully and willfully lie to the electorate and no one calls them out on it, and should someone call them out on it, no trace of embarrassment, shame, or contrition, only arrogance at being questioned and doubling down on that same lie. And lower still, that it's accepted by the electorate rather than being rebuked.

Assuming you are talking about the Reagan lies about Iran/contra...or about the Bush II lies about WMD's in Iraq...I think you are being too hard on those guys. I don't like either, but you are beating up on them with unnecessary fervor.

Fun!

Remember?

 

[eohrnberger]

. . . .
I despise what American conservatism is doing to this country. Many, definitely not all, conservatives are of the "hooray for me, screw you" mentality...and anyone who does NOT despise that, is sick.
. . . .

.....

I think you are confusing 'earn it if you want it' with "hooray for me, screw you". The two are not the same, although it seems to you they are.

Conservatives have historically exceeded other groups when it comes to voluntary charity, and this is not the same as a government forced involuntary charity, although it seems to you that they are.

I believe these two points, and probably many more, are where you don't understand conservatism.

 

[eohrnberger]

Could be. Any comments would be speculation. Although turning down a request to say "Hello" from an ex-president WHO MAY ACCIDENTALLY BEEN IN THE SAME PLACE...is not easy.

I think you are deluding yourself to believe that this was an accidental meeting. As posted by another, it was most certainly NOT a case of bumping into each other at the grocery store while out doing the weekly shop.

One doesn't have to be "rich" to feel, "Hooray for me, screw you."

One merely has to be a scumbag type. That applies even to some people I love.

You are right, though. The majority of American conservatives are not rich.

 

[AlbqOwl]

All this means is that there is no risk that anything will happen to Hillary.

I have never believed Obama would allow his DOJ to bring any charges of any kind against Hillary Clinton. She was too close to the throne and knows where all the figurative bodies are buried. He doesn't dare cross her. She knows too much.

So all this latest scandal underscores is that the whole business is tainted, corrupt, and the American people cannot expect the government to police itself. It is not going to happen.

 

[Moderate Right]

Could be. Any comments would be speculation. Although turning down a request to say "Hello" from an ex-president WHO MAY ACCIDENTALLY BEEN IN THE SAME PLACE...is not easy.



One doesn't have to be "rich" to feel, "Hooray for me, screw you."

One merely has to be a scumbag type. That applies even to some people I love.

You are right, though. The majority of American conservatives are not rich.

But if you have nothing in your life monetarily to say hooray for me, then why would you say it? Surely a scumbag wouldn't have much credibility.

 

[Frank Apisa]

I think you are confusing 'earn it if you want it' with "hooray for me, screw you". The two are not the same, although it seems to you they are.

Conservatives have historically exceeded other groups when it comes to voluntary charity, and this is not the same as a government forced involuntary charity, although it seems to you that they are.

I believe these two points, and probably many more, are where you don't understand conservatism.

I appreciate you sharing what you "believe" with me, Eo...but I think I understand American conservatism better than you.

And, YES...it disgusts me.

That was not always the case. There was a time when I had a healthy respect for American conservatism...when I thought it was something helping America be a great country.

I just do not any more.

 

[nota bene]

From the exclusive in the Observer that I've already posted:

“I don’t agree with her politics and all that, but I knew from the beginning that she got caught off guard and her staff was already talking about it that it’s going to be a political problem for her. Her staff was flipping out. We didn’t think about the political part until we saw her staff flipping out. For the security guys, it was more of a ‘I’ve got armed guys coming into my perimeter’ problem. But the staff guys saw right away that it was a political problem. After Clinton got off, they were like, ‘that wasn’t good.’ And I know from others who were in the actual car with her that her people knew immediately the political ramifications of it and were very upset.” EXCLUSIVE: Security Source Details Bill Clinton Maneuver to Meet Loretta Lynch | | Observer

So could former President Clinton's intention to have been to muddy the waters?