Luntz Focus Group: 8 Undecideds Voting For Trump After Debate, 1 Voting For Biden

[ReubenSherr]

So they're wrong. (shrug)

That was a very honest reply lol.

As one focus group member put it, blaming Trump is like “Monday morning quarterbacking.”

 

[jpn]

This is a liberal talking point, not even liberals truly believe it. They are using this tragedy for political gain.

Wrong. Anyone who understands the science understands that a more coherent and aggressive response by the federal government could have saved tens of thousands of lives.

I'm amazed this appears to be news to you. Guess what? The Earth is round, too.

U.S. Could Have Saved 36,000 Lives If Social Distancing Started 1 Week Earlier: Study

 

[beefheart]

The jokes started when you all released a CNN poll of viewers' reactions to the debate.

And then followed that up with data from Morning Consult online surveys.

I honestly could not stop laughing lol.

You were the only one who thought it was funny, because you think 39% is a big deal, Reuben.

I am laughing at your CNN obsession Rueben.

 

[jpn]

As one focus group member put it, blaming Trump is like “Monday morning quarterbacking.”

Except people were pointing out his mistakes in real time, not after the fact. And he's still screwing up by claiming we've turned a corner when in fact we're headed right into spike number three. And holding rallies without masks.

Monday morning? Hell, I wish it were Monday, but instead we're still in the third quarter! If that!

Got any sources more interesting than these jokers?

 

[ReubenSherr]

Wrong. Anyone who understands the science understands that a more coherent and aggressive response by the federal government could have saved tens of thousands of lives.

I'm amazed this appears to be news to you. Guess what? The Earth is round, too.

U.S. Could Have Saved 36,000 Lives If Social Distancing Started 1 Week Earlier: Study

Do you have any evidence, specifically, that indicates that Biden, if he had been President, would have forced governors to enforce social distancing a week earlier?

I see none.

Which is where the “Monday morning quarterbacking” line fits perfectly here.

 

[ReubenSherr]

Except people were pointing out his mistakes in real time, not after the fact.

If this were true, it would be one thing. But it was the exact opposite situation.

Pelosi did not once speak up, and question Trump’s response in March. Neither did Biden, except by criticizing the travel ban. Which indicates that if Biden had been in charge, our death rate might have been higher, closer to Italy’s.

 

[zimmer]

Editor’s corrections in red:

Leftists are violent, angry, and confused etc. These are some of the words that describe Leftists at this moment.

 

[zimmer]

The Covid could not be heading for its third peak at a worse time for Trump and all his lickspittle Republican partners in crime.

All bow before the almighty 538, who no less a reliable source than RuebenSherr claims we all worship:
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This is what 538 predicted in 2016 on Election Day.

A colossal **** up.

Oops!!!


PS. Joe’s corruptions and his attack on Fracking put the Chinese Flu out of the picture.

‘Thanks Hunter!!!

 

[Mongidig]

Only 2 of the dozen members of the Fox focus group held Trump responsible for a single death.

This is a liberal talking point, not even liberals truly believe it. They are using this tragedy for political gain.

I'm a lifelong Conservative and won't be voting for Trump because of his gross mishandling of the pandemic. His lack of leadership has literally cost hundreds of thousands of lives. This isn't just a "liberal talking point". You're brainwashed by Trump and Fox news. Take a step back out of the muck you are in and see reality as it is. I think many of you will look back at this time of your life and feel shame for your support of this monster.

 

[jpn]

Do you have any evidence, specifically, that indicates that Biden, if he had been President, would have forced governors to enforce social distancing a week earlier?

Now you're just being obtuse. No one is forcing governors. However, Biden, and almost any sentient human being would have followed CDC guidelines rather than fighting and obscuring them.

They would have mobilized a coherent and urgent federal response instead of insisting that the virus was contained and minimized the issue, which the White House continues to do to this day.

Trump’s abdication of responsibility proceeds apace. He has no national testing strategy; no plan for the reopened schools he so noisily demands; no road to reviving the economy; no disciplined or sustained message about social distancing and wearing masks. Nothing but the prattling of a self-absorbed child regurgitating willful make-believe—claiming that the virus will disappear or that hydroxychloroquine is great.

Instead of listening to science, Trump looks for affirmation from the fever swamp of right-wing media, recycling falsehoods, bogus conspiracies, and patent quackery. To please his base, he has mocked mask-wearing, campaigned against the public health measures recommended by his own administration, and shifted blame to everyone from the Chinese to Barack Obama. The only unifying theme is the cosmic self-pity which disqualifies Trump from leadership and destroys his empathy for others—licensing Trump’s laser focus on himself as the pandemic’s chief victim.

 

[jpn]

If this were true, it would be one thing. But it was the exact opposite situation.
Pelosi did not once speak up, and question Trump’s response in March. Neither did Biden, except by criticizing the travel ban. Which indicates that if Biden had been in charge, our death rate might have been higher, closer to Italy’s.

You're all opinion, no facts.

Trump, Jan. 22: The president tells CNBC that “we have it totally under control” and “it’s going to be just fine.”
Top Biden adviser, Jan. 22: Ron Klain, a Biden adviser who managed the 2014 Ebola response, co-writes a piece excoriating Trump for “brashly” dismissing coronavirus as “under control,” while calling for “expertise” to “guide critical decisions” and noting “reasons for great concern.”
Trump, Jan. 24: Trump praises and gives thanks to China for its efforts to contain the coronavirus, and adds: “It will all work out well.”
Biden, Jan. 27: Biden publishes an op-ed in USA Today hitting Trump for “shortsighted policies" that "have left us unprepared for a dangerous epidemic,” and warning that the coronavirus “will get worse before it gets better.”

Trump, Jan. 30: Trump says at a rally in Michigan: “We think we have it very well under control.”
Biden, Jan. 31: Biden tells reporters in Iowa that “science” must “lead the way,” adding: “We have, right now, a crisis with the coronavirus.”
Biden, Feb. 1: Biden tweets: “We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science.”

Trump, Feb. 2: Trump goes on Sean Hannity’s show and claims: “We pretty much shut it down, coming in from China.” Trump extols our “tremendous relationship” with China, and adds: “We did shut it down, yes.”
Trump, Feb. 10: Trump claims that “a lot of people” think the coronavirus “goes away in April with the heat,” adding that we only have “11 cases,” and that “we’re in great shape.”
Biden, Feb. 11: Biden goes on “Morning Joe” and excoriates Trump for claiming the coronavirus will disappear in the warm weather, crossing himself while doing so, and adding: “You couldn’t make it up.”

Trump, Feb. 26: Trump claims the media is conspiring with Democrats to hype the coronavirus to rattle the markets. Trump also says the coronavirus is “going very substantially down, not up.”
Trump, Feb. 27: Trump hails his administration’s handling of the coronavirus, and while he does reveal a hint of uncertainty, he says: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”
Trump, Feb. 28: Trump shouts at a rally in South Carolina that Democrats’ criticism of his response (which proved entirely accurate) is “their new hoax.”
Biden, Feb. 28: Biden goes on CNN and says Trump has yet to “gain control” of the coronavirus, while calling on Trump to stop downplaying it and urging him instead to “let the experts take this over” and “let the experts speak.”

Trump, March 9: Trump dismissively compares the coronavirus with flu, claiming flu kills tens of thousands annually and that “life & the economy go on.”
Trump, March 10: Trump again hails the “great job” he’s doing on the coronavirus, and declares: “It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”
Biden, March 12: Biden gives a speech stressing the importance of presidential truth-telling amid crises, noting that Trump’s ongoing falsifications risk leaving Americans without reliable guidance, compounding “public fears.”

Trump, March 13: Asked about the administration’s epic failure to ramp up testing, Trump declares: “I don’t take responsibility at all.”
Biden, March 15: Biden responds to that Trump quote by reiterating his call for widespread free testing, and by declaring: “It is the job of the president to take responsibility — and his response is unacceptable.”

 

[Mongidig]

If this were true, it would be one thing. But it was the exact opposite situation.

Pelosi did not once speak up, and question Trump’s response in March. Neither did Biden, except by criticizing the travel ban. Which indicates that if Biden had been in charge, our death rate might have been higher, closer to Italy’s.

You guys are a one trick pony. "Fauci said this in March" "Pelosi did this in March". You need to get in the moment. You need to realize that much has changed and much has been learned. Stop parroting everything you hear on Fox. Start being an individual.

 

[Mongidig]

You're all opinion, no facts.

Trump, Jan. 22: The president tells CNBC that “we have it totally under control” and “it’s going to be just fine.”
Top Biden adviser, Jan. 22: Ron Klain, a Biden adviser who managed the 2014 Ebola response, co-writes a piece excoriating Trump for “brashly” dismissing coronavirus as “under control,” while calling for “expertise” to “guide critical decisions” and noting “reasons for great concern.”
Trump, Jan. 24: Trump praises and gives thanks to China for its efforts to contain the coronavirus, and adds: “It will all work out well.”
Biden, Jan. 27: Biden publishes an op-ed in USA Today hitting Trump for “shortsighted policies" that "have left us unprepared for a dangerous epidemic,” and warning that the coronavirus “will get worse before it gets better.”

Trump, Jan. 30: Trump says at a rally in Michigan: “We think we have it very well under control.”
Biden, Jan. 31: Biden tells reporters in Iowa that “science” must “lead the way,” adding: “We have, right now, a crisis with the coronavirus.”
Biden, Feb. 1: Biden tweets: “We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science.”

Trump, Feb. 2: Trump goes on Sean Hannity’s show and claims: “We pretty much shut it down, coming in from China.” Trump extols our “tremendous relationship” with China, and adds: “We did shut it down, yes.”
Trump, Feb. 10: Trump claims that “a lot of people” think the coronavirus “goes away in April with the heat,” adding that we only have “11 cases,” and that “we’re in great shape.”
Biden, Feb. 11: Biden goes on “Morning Joe” and excoriates Trump for claiming the coronavirus will disappear in the warm weather, crossing himself while doing so, and adding: “You couldn’t make it up.”

Trump, Feb. 26: Trump claims the media is conspiring with Democrats to hype the coronavirus to rattle the markets. Trump also says the coronavirus is “going very substantially down, not up.”
Trump, Feb. 27: Trump hails his administration’s handling of the coronavirus, and while he does reveal a hint of uncertainty, he says: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”
Trump, Feb. 28: Trump shouts at a rally in South Carolina that Democrats’ criticism of his response (which proved entirely accurate) is “their new hoax.”
Biden, Feb. 28: Biden goes on CNN and says Trump has yet to “gain control” of the coronavirus, while calling on Trump to stop downplaying it and urging him instead to “let the experts take this over” and “let the experts speak.”

Trump, March 9: Trump dismissively compares the coronavirus with flu, claiming flu kills tens of thousands annually and that “life & the economy go on.”
Trump, March 10: Trump again hails the “great job” he’s doing on the coronavirus, and declares: “It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”
Biden, March 12: Biden gives a speech stressing the importance of presidential truth-telling amid crises, noting that Trump’s ongoing falsifications risk leaving Americans without reliable guidance, compounding “public fears.”

Trump, March 13: Asked about the administration’s epic failure to ramp up testing, Trump declares: “I don’t take responsibility at all.”
Biden, March 15: Biden responds to that Trump quote by reiterating his call for widespread free testing, and by declaring: “It is the job of the president to take responsibility — and his response is unacceptable.”

Trump, yesterday: "We're rounding the turn", "It will soon be gone", "It's going away".

 

[jpn]

That the pandemic occurred is not Trump’s fault.

The utter unpreparedness of the United States for a pandemic is Trump’s fault.

The loss of stockpiled respirators to breakage because the federal government let maintenance contracts lapse in 2018 is Trump’s fault.

The failure to store sufficient protective medical gear in the national arsenal is Trump’s fault. That states are bidding against other states for equipment, paying many multiples of the precrisis price for ventilators, is Trump’s fault.

Air travelers summoned home and forced to stand for hours in dense airport crowds alongside infected people? That was Trump’s fault too.

Ten weeks of insisting that the coronavirus is a harmless flu that would miraculously go away on its own? Trump’s fault.

 

[straykatz]

Does anyone believe there are TRUE undecided voters at this point? Attention hoes seeking their 2 minutes of fame.

 

[jpn]

You guys are a one trick pony. "Fauci said this in March" "Pelosi did this in March". You need to get in the moment. You need to realize that much has changed and much has been learned. Stop parroting everything you hear on Fox. Start being an individual.

Did you hear what Fauci said yesterday? Very interesting.

Fauci: It’s Been ‘Several Months’ Since Trump Last Showed Up At COVID Task Force Meeting​

White House COVID-19 task force member Anthony Fauci said on Friday that it’s been a while since President Donald Trump attended a meeting with the team.​

“That was several months ago, Chuck. Several months ago,” Fauci told MSNBC host Chuck Todd.​

Trump is afraid he'll learn something that will make him cry.