Louisiana Lawmaker Forced to Clarify There Was No ‘Good’ in Slavery

[j brown's body]

Byrd certainly changed his public stance but we'll never know how he genuinely felt. He was certainly never public about his KKK involvement either until it became exposed. It never made any difference to his membership in the Democratic Party or his rise to power.

He should have just been buried. Seems to be a great deal of hypocrisy by honoring a known high ranking KKK member like Robert Byrd while tearing down statues of other people who fought on the losing side in the Civil War.

To be fair, by the time he died, he had not been in the klan for an awfully long time.

Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black had been in the klan too, and he was one of the Supreme Court's strongest advocates for civil rights.

 

[Ouroboros]

Yeah... but if we are talking about the US in the 1800's... .it was white people who were pretty bad... like almost across the whole board.

Just not good.

Do you hold the same opinion of all Muslims of the time? It’s worth remembering that they’re the ones who turned tribal slavery into big business. In fact, few cultures had not indulged at least in slavery at the tribal level. The Jewish custom of the Jubilee was devoted in part to freeing slaves, but to free slaves, you have to own them first. If you’re going to fault whites for owning slaves, why wouldn’t you condemn pretty much everyone who didn’t get the anti slavery memo from the early 1800s?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Ouroboros]

That's your opinion but it certainly isn't an opinion shared by me and other black voters who see Republicans and their voters fighting to maintain the flags and statues and symbols of long dead racist democratic slavers.

We cucked Robert Byrd and forced him to bow his head and act right and we will do the same to the racist holdouts in the conservative Republican states who still cling to their Confederate flags.

A Progressive like you has no business taking credit for anything the early liberals accomplished. You don’t even understand how that victory was achieved.

 

[Ouroboros]

Because MLK was murdered by a psychotic thug.

Duh.

But you’re also not triggered by the murder of David Dorn by some thug empowered by BLM. Only some black lives matter to you.

 

[j brown's body]

Given that the board is color blind I can only respond to what the poster says. In this case Master Debator said, "I believe 90% of black voters every election make plain who is and isn't a friend of the black community", and asked him why that might be.

Do you have an opinion as to why that is so?.

They might object to Republican efforts to write them out of voting and write them out of history.

 

[Ouroboros]

Already throughly answered. It’s not my fault you can’t wrap your head around it.

 

[Master Debator]

A Progressive like you has no business taking credit for anything the early liberals accomplished. You don’t even understand how that victory was achieved.

Now your lashing out because I found those racist Republicans you asked me to. The tactics needed in the last century are different than the ones needed today. We are the moral majority now and we need to stand on Republican necks until they get the message. Metaphorically speaking of course.

 

[j brown's body]

But you’re also not triggered by the murder of David Dorn by some thug empowered by BLM. Only some black lives matter to you.

The murder of anyone is a terrible tragedy and waste, but the murder of someone for expressing his or her principles of love, equality and freedom is particularly noteworthy. I don't believe there is any evidence that David Dorn was murdered by anyone who felt "empowered" by BLM.

 

[Ouroboros]

Lincoln pointing out the fact that the South's fanatical desire to protect slavery created a situation which couldn’t last wasn’t a “betrayal of the Constitution” in any way, shape or form.

Lincoln signaled his intent to deny right of secession, and that violated the bargain the states made when the Constitution was signed. If the elected President favors violating the law, you have no leg to stand on finding the Confederacy hypocritical. Realpolitik engenders realpolitik.

 

[Ouroboros]

A thought experiment is no more rational discourse than a homeless man rambling to himself on the street corner. Rational debate requires objective observations not your made up scenarios. Where is your objective scientific proof that black people are a separate race from white people?

Where do you think you found this straw man in my posts? Objectively, you can’t back that up and you will again have to bail.

 

[Ouroboros]

Now your lashing out because I found those racist Republicans you asked me to. The tactics needed in the last century are different than the ones needed today. We are the moral majority now and we need to stand on Republican necks until they get the message. Metaphorically speaking of course.

Your tactics are identical with those of the KKK. History will not validate your utter lack of morality.

 

[Jezcoe]

Do you hold the same opinion of all Muslims of the time? It’s worth remembering that they’re the ones who turned tribal slavery into big business. In fact, few cultures had not indulged at least in slavery at the tribal level. The Jewish custom of the Jubilee was devoted in part to freeing slaves, but to free slaves, you have to own them first. If you’re going to fault whites for owning slaves, why wouldn’t you condemn pretty much everyone who didn’t get the anti slavery memo from the early 1800s?

Inquiring minds want to know.

I find it funny that you think I am going to defend 1800's Muslims.

 

[Master Debator]

Where do you think you found this straw man in my posts? Objectively, you can’t back that up and you will again have to bail.

Again, what is there to refute in a story you yourself made up? You invented the entire scenario and you actually think that is a rational argument for existence of separate black and white races? It isn't. Post evidence not made up stories and then maybe we can have a rational discussion.

 

[Master Debator]

Your tactics are identical with those of the KKK. History will not validate your utter lack of morality.

That's decided by the winners not the losers.

 

[Carl Young]

The answer is, or at least should be, very clear to the smart, educated, and enlightened. They vote for Democrats because they believe the Democrats have their best interests at heart, as opposed to Republicans/Conservatives. What is your opinion as to why Blacks vote for Democrats in such large numbers in every election?

I feel many have become dependent on social programs, believe the Democrats like Biden when he says 'they gonna lock
y'all up back in Chains, if you don't vote Democrat "you ain't Black'. They are also being propagandized by the Democrats in their third rate schools in crime ridden neighborhoods.

But I have to rely on Black leaders, and one who is also the greatest living American- and should be celebrated every day with a statue erected in his honor. But the MSM will never invite this great man to speak. or get his insights. nor will 'liberals' watch this complete video.

 

[Logician Man]

I feel many have become dependent on social programs, believe the Democrats like Biden when he says 'they gonna lock
y'all up back in Chains, if you don't vote Democrat "you ain't Black'. They are also being propagandized by the Democrats in their third rate schools in crime ridden neighborhoods.

But I have to rely on Black leaders, and one who is also the greatest living American- and should be celebrated every day with a statue erected in his honor. But the MSM will never invite this great man to speak. or get his insights. nor will 'liberals' watch this complete video.

/// They are also being propagandized by the Democrats in their third rate schools in crime ridden neighborhoods. /// <--- Credible citation needed to support this asinine positive claim which wreaks of racist content.

 

[Master Debator]

I feel many have become dependent on social programs, believe the Democrats like Biden when he says 'they gonna lock
y'all up back in Chains, if you don't vote Democrat "you ain't Black'. They are also being propagandized by the Democrats in their third rate schools in crime ridden neighborhoods.

But I have to rely on Black leaders, and one who is also the greatest living American- and should be celebrated every day with a statue erected in his honor. But the MSM will never invite this great man to speak. or get his insights. nor will 'liberals' watch this complete video.

So your way to prove the other guys are the real racists is it imply black people largely don't know what's in our best interests?

 

[Carl Young]

Kind of seems like you're making the case that Democrats are capable of forgiveness.

They were indifferent to his past but he brought them political success because he had deep relationships with other Democrats with similar baxkgrounds.

If it were happening today Byrd probably couldn't survive and conservatives would be crying about cancel culture.

If that culture or candidate supports racism then yes, such proponents should not be allowed to hold public office

Which would you prefer? Would you prefer that a former racist who apologized for his racist ways be forgiven or should that ruin you for all time even if you denounce everything you previously stood for?

Membership in the KKK should preclude anyone running for public office much less have lauditory praise heaped on him by fellow Democrats.

Who knows how he really felt? I certainly don't pretend to. But I kind of like the idea of him still being a racist and having to bow his head. That is what a cuck is after all. Having to live your life pretending to be something you hate and hiding on the proverbial closet is exactly the kind of hilarious fate all white racists deserve.

No surprise you admire the guy.

Mostly because a lot of the Democratic representatives are members of the black community themselves. This congress is the most diverse its ever been and it comes at a time when Republican representatives are whiter than they've ever been in quite some time.

Yep. Lot's of race hustlers out there, Black and White. Meanwhile the education system in Democrat areas continues to deteriorate, more Black babies are being aborted, and more Black people being murdered on the streets and in their homes every day.

 

[Carl Young]

So your way to prove the other guys are the real racists is it imply black people largely don't know what's in our best interests?

That would seem clear enough, but they are learning.

 

[Carl Young]

To be fair, by the time he died, he had not been in the klan for an awfully long time.

Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black had been in the klan too, and he was one of the Supreme Court's strongest advocates for civil rights.

If Black people want to support members, or former members, of the KKK then they are free to do so. I wouldn't do it though and I'm not even Black.

 

[Logician Man]

If Black people want to support members, or former members, of the KKK then they are free to do so. I wouldn't do it though and I'm not even Black.

/// and I'm not even Black. ///

 

[pamak]

So why didn’t BLM start their crusade over Garner? Their choice to start protests over Brown suggests that they didn’t care who was guilty, only what the media was willing to spotlight.

They DID!

Did not you read the link?


...at least 50 protests in support of Garner had occurred globally, and many other Black Lives Matter-related demonstrations had occurred.[9

Garner's "I can't breathe" became one of the most widely used slogans of the BLM movement! You know that!

I can't breathe - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Speakers at a December 2014 march in Washington, D.C.

 

[Master Debator]

They were indifferent to his past but he brought them political success because he had deep relationships with other Democrats with similar baxkgrounds.

If that culture or candidate supports racism then yes, such proponents should not be allowed to hold public office


Membership in the KKK should preclude anyone running for public office much less have lauditory praise heaped on him by fellow Democrats.

No surprise you admire the guy.

Yep. Lot's of race hustlers out there, Black and White. Meanwhile the education system in Democrat areas continues to deteriorate, more Black babies are being aborted, and more Black people being murdered on the streets and in their homes every day.

That would seem clear enough, but they are learning.

By taking Georgia from the Republicans?

Texas is going to fall eventually as well and then what is your lot going to do? Of course we should fight these rinky dink Republican efforts to harrass the black vote but that's all you have left and I'm not to worried about them. People seem pretty motivated to come out and bury your culture once and for all.

 

[Carl Young]

/// and I'm not even Black. ///

Where's your problem?

 

[Carl Young]

By taking Georgia from the Republicans?

Texas is going to fall eventually as well and then what is your lot going to do? Of course we should fight these rinky dink Republican efforts to harrass the black vote but that's all you have left and I'm not to worried about them. People seem pretty motivated to come out and bury your culture once and for all.

And what culture is that?