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Seattle just started on the MW hikes
most havent taken yet
Seattle has a much higher average wage in the area
Seattle has a much more educated population
Can Seattle handle the $ 15 hr MW.....maybe
Comparing Seattle to Los Angeles makes no sense though.....the cities are in no ways alike
Los Angeles will have a much rougher time acclimating to the new wage than Seattle....and it is still questionable if Seattle can deal with it
Speaking of facts not fitting someone's narrative, are you aware that the States that have the weakest unionization tend to have the strongest employment and least inequality?
that person that supposedly knew the business is not the owner. therefore it is simply their opinion not proof that the owner is lying you need to learn the difference.
no your fact don't fit anyone's narrative. seeing how the majority of people there work above minimum wage then it isn't that big of a deal. however they will be wanting raises to offset the cost increases from minimum wage people making 15 an hour. their is a huge possibility that they won't get it.
how about this you open a business and pay no skill low skill labor 15 an hour.
You mean like Sam's Club.
Good call. You should compare those.
Sam's Club does half the business, and carries fewer SKU's.
I don't think you're hitting the target you're aiming for.
Are you aware that the states that have the weakest unionization also have the lowest average income, the lowest educational attainment rates, the highest teenage pregnancy rates, the highest divorce rates, and the highest violent crime rates? Google them - it's true. Red states are generally worse than blue states in all those categories.
And when it comes to your attempt to correlate unionization with inequality in cities, I was not aware that cities in Florida, North Carolina, Louisiana, and Texas [URL="http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/14/news/economy/america-inequality-10-worst-cities/" were so strongly unionized[/URL]:
They come be a use they can find the jobs. Start jailing employers and that all goes away.
We'll see in the years to come, won't we?
I am a small business owner. We've got a small store where we do airline ticketing (at rates that are almost always lower than anything you find online), package shipping, and money remittance. We also have another small business where we provide home care to an elderly lady with dementia, and another one where we provide home care to a young man (who was our Foster child since he was four) who has fetal drug syndrome - he has a trach, a g-tube, rods in his back, seizure disorders, cleft palate, and is also developmentally-disabled.
So yes, we DO own three small businesses and we DO have employees. Are you doing as much? Perhaps you are - I don't want to make the same mistake you just made by assuming that I don't know anything about running a business.
How about the business owners successfully operated a couple of stores, and now remaining in business is questionable? Obviously, never thought about that.
why do you think companies are abandoning CA in general? their are simply better places out there to do business in.
no restaurant prices have gone up more so your local places more than your chains. however I have noticed that even chain prices have gone up as well.
businesses pay what the position is worth and being a bus boy or a dishwasher or a cashier doesn't entitle you to 15 bucks an hour
I just showed that it did and you were proven wrong and I am sure that there were more that were not reported.
businesses cannot justify paying low skill no skill workers 15 dollars
As is the case with Seattle, San Francisco has a highly-educated workforce (52.4% with bachelor's degrees or above vs. the national average of 28.8%). The end result is very low unemployment (4.2% rate vs. 5.6% national rate in March), high productivity (per capita income of $48,486 vs. the national average of $28,155) and high incomes (median household income of $75,604 vs. the national average of $53,046). Of course, even there, there will be some economic dislocation.
Los Angeles is in a worse position. A large share of Los Angeles' population is under-educated (25.5% have no high school diploma vs. the national average of 14.0%). As the unemployment rate is directly correlated with educational attainment and job security is also greater with higher educational attainment, it isn't surprising that Los Angeles currently has a 6.6% unemployment rate (vs. 5.6% in the U.S. in March), along with lower productivity ($27,829 per capita income) and lower median household income ($49,497) than San Francisco (or Seattle) and a poverty rate more than 50% above the national average. Lower-skilled jobs often come with a lack of benefits and 28.3% of Los Angeles residents under the age of 65 lacked health coverage (vs. 15.3% nationwide). Los Angeles' economy is in a much weaker position than San Francisco's or Seattle's to cope with a $15 per hour minimum wage.
Look, your little article has zero effect, that's what I've been telling you. Your opinion is useless against the markets and public demand. If you can't sell your cup cakes here - then leave.
All that sounds fine however L.A. is L.A. and just like up here, businesses will come and go a dime a dozen. The ones that make it will be able to afford $15 an hour. If the others can;t hack, then asta la byebye.
and the ones that make it won't be hiring no skill low skill workers either.
Then, what happens to the more than 25% of Los Angeles residents who lack high school diplomas? The disappearance of job opportunities for them almost certainly would lock them in poverty, especially as no large-scale education initiatives are on the horizon for the City.
The minimum wage is 80 years old and yet America continues to have a resilient and robust economy.Wow, LA by proclamation has suspended a law of economics! Amazing. I can't wait till they issue another proclamation that sellers must sell below cost because they can always make it up in volume. Venezuelan economic decrees in America, can't wait!
businesses are leaving or closing down. that is why CA has some of the highest poverty rates in the country and more people on government assistance.
it has been going on for years.
yep if I owned a cupcake shop in CA I would shut it down and move to NV where I can operate efficiently.
it isn't a matter of selling cupcakes.
it is the matter of making enough money off of them to continue operating.
I mean if you will buy 10 dollar cupcakes then please do I will stay in business.
Wow, LA by proclamation has suspended a law of economics! Amazing. I can't wait till they issue another proclamation that sellers must sell below cost because they can always make it up in volume. Venezuelan economic decrees in America, can't wait!
Thank you for reading your bumper sticker. That doesn't make it so and insulting hard-working Americans by calling them "losers" doesn't help your case. The reality is low earning workers are constrained at what they can purchase. If they earned more, they could consume more. Remember, their earnings are your income. If they have more income, you get more sales, which means you earn more.A pay raise for minimum wage losers is a pay cut for everyone else.
What you believe is (once again) wrong. There are studies that conclude otherwise: Studies look at what happened when cities raised minimum wage | The Seattle Timesludin said:businesses are leaving or closing down. that is why CA has some of the highest poverty rates in the country and more people on government assistance.
it has been going on for years.
yep if I owned a cupcake shop in CA I would shut it down and move to NV where I can operate efficiently.
it isn't a matter of selling cupcakes.
it is the matter of making enough money off of them to continue operating.
I mean if you will buy 10 dollar cupcakes then please do I will stay in business.
The study was done by Nicholas Potter, now a researcher at Washington State University. He said some businesses in Santa Fe did close and some said it hurt their competitiveness. But workers were overwhelmingly positive about the pay hike. And the fear of massive restaurant closures didn’t happen, he said, though the cost of eating out did go up some.
“It seemed to have helped workers and not hurt business too much,” he said.
Cost of eating out
Potential price increases at restaurants was the biggest negative impact identified by the Berkeley researchers. The cost of eating out went up 2 to 3 percent when the minimum wage rose 25 percent. That means dining out in Seattle could go up as much as 7 percent if the city goes to $15 an hour.
But another Berkeley researcher said there isn’t an overwhelmingly negative impact on any type of business where the minimum wage has been raised.
“There is considerable churn among small businesses. Firms are going out of business and new businesses are rising all of the time. What is important from the research is that you do not see a net decline in employment as a result of the minimum-wage ordinances,” said Ken Jacobs, chairman of the Berkeley Center for Labor Research and Education.
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