Look at the latest from Calif

[Fledermaus]

bawhaha how is demanding employers be held responsible hatred? lmao....you clearly are one of those that are not willing to do the work but want to bitch and moan about how immigrants are taking your job.

Last post (except where I can expose your ignorance).

The law is already on the books to punish those who employ illegals.

And clearly you are obsessed with insulting people who have been working all their lives.

 

[ClaraD]

Ignorant statement.

From OSHA

A youth 14- or 15-years-old can work in agriculture, on any farm, but only during hours when school is not in session and only in non-hazardous jobs. A youth 12 or 13 years of age, can work in agriculture on a farm only if a parent has given written permission or is working on the same farm.

Only during hours in which school is not in session...thus they cannot work there. Farm work is 7 days a week sun up to sundown

 

[ClaraD]

Last post (except where I can expose your ignorance).

The law is already on the books to punish those who employ illegals.

And clearly you are obsessed with insulting people who have been working all their lives.

And the law is not being applied. Not a single person that hired undocumented immigrants in the Koch raid or at Trump properties have been arrested

 

[Fledermaus]

And the law is not being applied. Not a single person that hired undocumented immigrants in the Koch raid or at Trump properties have been arrested

Please lie again.

The law is being applied. As proven in post after post after post....

You first have to prove INTENT and then it is up to the Attorney General office to decide punishment...

Do you have EVIDENCE that the people doing the hiring were not punished in some way?

 

[Fledermaus]

Only during hours in which school is not in session...thus they cannot work there. Farm work is 7 days a week sun up to sundown

Please fail basic compression.

There are more than school hours in a day. And there are non school days.

Therefore 14-15 year olds can and do work on farms.

So can 12 and 13 year olds.

I know. My mothers side is farm stock in Wisconsin. When visiting I helped on the farm.... At 10 years old.

You don't know much about farms... Do you?

 

[Luther]

So, should states be allowed to decide what they do with state tax money or should federal government have all control over all state matters? Hmm?

Of course they can decide what they do with their money

But on the other hand, Californians are fleeing the state(wink)

*sigh*

 

[Luther]

Incorrect.

Legal immigration = Legal work, legal wages, legal taxes, legal everything.

Really?

The greatest immigration study found otherwise(wink)

Watch and learn


Come on down.... stay awhile

 

[danielpalos]

Of course they can decide what they do with their money

But on the other hand, Californians are fleeing the state(wink)

*sigh*

So are people from Kansas and Louisiana.

 

[Logical1]

Give money to criminal invaders, and then beg the Fed gov for a bail out!!!!! Insane.

 

[danielpalos]

Give money to criminal invaders, and then beg the Fed gov for a bail out!!!!! Insane.

Only illegals don't care about the law. Show us the express Immigration clause in our federal Constitution.

 

[ClaraD]

Of course they can decide what they do with their money

But on the other hand, Californians are fleeing the state(wink)

*sigh*

nah they aren't actually fleeing the state. I moved from Texas to Colorado and then to South Carolina...I wasn't fleeing the state, I decided to move. California's population has grown every single census not decreased.

 

[ClaraD]

Please lie again.

The law is being applied. As proven in post after post after post....

You first have to prove INTENT and then it is up to the Attorney General office to decide punishment...

Do you have EVIDENCE that the people doing the hiring were not punished in some way?

No, it is up to the federal government...not the state government to persue charges. So, can you explain why your Republican aristocrat master hasn't directed his justice department to go after employers? Interesting that not a single employer has been charged for these things under his administration.

 

[Fledermaus]

No, it is up to the federal government...not the state government to persue charges. So, can you explain why your Republican aristocrat master hasn't directed his justice department to go after employers? Interesting that not a single employer has been charged for these things under his administration.

Derp....


The Attorney General IS PART OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Office of the Attorney General | Department of Justice

 

[ClaraD]

Derp....


The Attorney General IS PART OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Office of the Attorney General | Department of Justice

and they have refused time after time to go after employers under your conman fake president....that is my point. They could go after them and did not...why? If you want the law applied to illegal immigrants why are you complacent and okay with it not being applied to their employers?

 

[Fledermaus]

nah they aren't actually fleeing the state. I moved from Texas to Colorado and then to South Carolina...I wasn't fleeing the state, I decided to move. California's population has grown every single census not decreased.

This, said the department, marks “the first time since the 2010 census that California has had more people leaving the state than moving in from abroad or other states.”

William Frey, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, said Friday’s findings follow a trend that demographers have seen over several years. While California has always seen domestic outmigration — people moving to other states — the rate has grown over the last decade.

More births than deaths resulted in the increase.

More people moving out than in.

California population growth slowest since 1900 as residents leave, immigration decelerates - Los Angeles Times

 

[Fledermaus]

and they have refused time after time to go after employers under your conman fake president....that is my point. They could go after them and did not...why? If you want the law applied to illegal immigrants why are you complacent and okay with it not being applied to their employers?

Blah blah blah "fake president" blah blah ....

You have been shown ICE closing businesses and doing raids.

Intentional ignorance at this point.

DOJ hasn't led Trump out in shackles so you are pissed.

 

[Fledermaus]

Really?

The greatest immigration study found otherwise(wink)

Watch and learn


Come on down.... stay awhile

What is the first sentence she says?

 

[ClaraD]

This, said the department, marks “the first time since the 2010 census that California has had more people leaving the state than moving in from abroad or other states.”

William Frey, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, said Friday’s findings follow a trend that demographers have seen over several years. While California has always seen domestic outmigration — people moving to other states — the rate has grown over the last decade.

More births than deaths resulted in the increase.

More people moving out than in.

California population growth slowest since 1900 as residents leave, immigration decelerates - Los Angeles Times

leaving and moving in are different things from population decrease...if people were actually FLEEING the state then there would be a decrease in population....such as in Wyoming. If you hate California so much, why are you there?

 

[Fledermaus]

leaving and moving in are different things from population decrease...if people were actually FLEEING the state then there would be a decrease in population....such as in Wyoming. If you hate California so much, why are you there?

FFS you can't handle the truth.

More people moving out of California than in.

Period.

Fact.

The BIRTH RATE vs. DEATH RATE is why the population increased.

Your statement was "nah they aren't actually fleeing the state."

More people moving out than in.

And far more tax paying citizens at that.

 

[ClaraD]

Blah blah blah "fake president" blah blah ....

You have been shown ICE closing businesses and doing raids.

Intentional ignorance at this point.

DOJ hasn't led Trump out in shackles so you are pissed.

ICE hasn't closed a single business. Koch foods is still open and in fact they have filed a lawsuit against the federal government claiming the raid was illegal.
The consequences for hiring undocumented immigrants is low as well....6 months in jail? not likely, even if they were to be charged, they would serve a single day. Fact is, your Republican friends like to hire undocumented immigrants because they work hard and don't complain a lot.

 

[ClaraD]

FFS you can't handle the truth.

More people moving out of California than in.

Period.

Fact.

The BIRTH RATE vs. DEATH RATE is why the population increased.

Your statement was "nah they aren't actually fleeing the state."

More people moving out than in.

And far more tax paying citizens at that.

if people were FLEEING there would be a mass exodus....there is not a mass exodus...however, there is an exodus from Wyoming.

The 10 states that lost population were New York (-76,790; -0.4%), Illinois (-51,250; -0.4%), West Virginia (-12,144; -0.7%), Louisiana (-10,896; -0.2%), Connecticut (-6,233; -0.2%), Mississippi (-4,871; -0.2%), Hawaii (-4,721; -0.3%), New Jersey (-3,835; 0.0%), Alaska (-3,594; -0.5%), and Vermont (-369 ; -0.1%).Dec 30, 2019

 

[Fledermaus]

if people were FLEEING there would be a mass exodus....there is not a mass exodus...however, there is an exodus from Wyoming.

The 10 states that lost population were New York (-76,790; -0.4%), Illinois (-51,250; -0.4%), West Virginia (-12,144; -0.7%), Louisiana (-10,896; -0.2%), Connecticut (-6,233; -0.2%), Mississippi (-4,871; -0.2%), Hawaii (-4,721; -0.3%), New Jersey (-3,835; 0.0%), Alaska (-3,594; -0.5%), and Vermont (-369 ; -0.1%).Dec 30, 2019

More people moving out than in.

That means more people moving out than in.

Which can be interpreted as more people moving out than in.

More out.

Less in.

More out than in.

That is more out than in.

Which is a exodus.

Your statement was "nah they aren't actually fleeing the state."

They are.

It is the birth rate that buoyed up the total numbers.

 

[Fledermaus]

if people were FLEEING there would be a mass exodus....there is not a mass exodus...however, there is an exodus from Wyoming.

The 10 states that lost population were New York (-76,790; -0.4%), Illinois (-51,250; -0.4%), West Virginia (-12,144; -0.7%), Louisiana (-10,896; -0.2%), Connecticut (-6,233; -0.2%), Mississippi (-4,871; -0.2%), Hawaii (-4,721; -0.3%), New Jersey (-3,835; 0.0%), Alaska (-3,594; -0.5%), and Vermont (-369 ; -0.1%).Dec 30, 2019

'Not the Golden State anymore': Middle- and low-income people fleeing California'

In the second quarter of 2019, the San Francisco Bay Area came in ahead of Los Angeles, Washington and Chicago when it came to people leaving major U.S. cities. It was second only to New York City.

More than 28,190 departed the area during those three months, close to double 2017's rate, according to a regular Migration Report from real estate brokerage Redfin.

In 2018, according to data provided by the U.S. Census Bureau, about 190,000 more people left the Golden State than moved there. This is the second year in a row of the negative trend.

California residents move to other states due to high cost of living

 

[ClaraD]

'Not the Golden State anymore': Middle- and low-income people fleeing California'

In the second quarter of 2019, the San Francisco Bay Area came in ahead of Los Angeles, Washington and Chicago when it came to people leaving major U.S. cities. It was second only to New York City.

More than 28,190 departed the area during those three months, close to double 2017's rate, according to a regular Migration Report from real estate brokerage Redfin.

In 2018, according to data provided by the U.S. Census Bureau, about 190,000 more people left the Golden State than moved there. This is the second year in a row of the negative trend.

California residents move to other states due to high cost of living

again, why are you still there? You hate it, why not move? No one is fleeing...flee defines mass exodus and would result in a negative population growth. There are over 39 million people in California....so that is hardly a mass exodus if you are saying 190,000 people left that is .0048% of the population...lmao

 

[ClaraD]

'Not the Golden State anymore': Middle- and low-income people fleeing California'

In the second quarter of 2019, the San Francisco Bay Area came in ahead of Los Angeles, Washington and Chicago when it came to people leaving major U.S. cities. It was second only to New York City.

More than 28,190 departed the area during those three months, close to double 2017's rate, according to a regular Migration Report from real estate brokerage Redfin.

In 2018, according to data provided by the U.S. Census Bureau, about 190,000 more people left the Golden State than moved there. This is the second year in a row of the negative trend.

California residents move to other states due to high cost of living

So why does Alaska, West Virginia, Mississippi and Louisiana have negative growth rates? Seems to me there is a mass exodus from those states.