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If Congress can impeach a private citizen like Trump, they can hold an illegal trial and impeach ANY private citizen for anything they would want to. But that is what the tyrants in the democrat party probably want. Radical left wing democrat have it in their head they should be able to control every aspect of our lives.

Pelosi would lead the charge for that. She is already on record saying that Congress should have the power to censor what citizens post the social media. I guess she doesnt want anyone telling the truth about her.
 
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Why did I know I would regret bothering to click on this.
But since someone else is bound to point out to you, once again, Trump was impeached as the president of the united states.
 
How is a citizen that never held office impeached?
 
Why did I know I would regret bothering to click on this.
But since someone else is bound to point out to you, once again, Trump was impeached as the president of the united states.
Uh-----------------no it is after the fact now. He is now a private citizen. The horse is out of the barn.
What we have now is a democrat hate dog and pony show.
 
He was in office when he was impeached.
He is NOT the president now, and this democrat shit show of hate is NOT being presided over by the Chief Justice. The whole thing is illegal as hell.
 
Uh-----------------no it is after the fact now. He is now a private citizen. The horse is out of the barn.
What we have now is a democrat hate dog and pony show.
There's precedence of Congress impeaching a office holder after he left office. Secretary of War William Belknap was impeached in 1876 after having left office.

And one more time: Trump was still President when he was impeached.
 
He is NOT the president now, and this democrat shit show of hate is NOT being presided over by the Chief Justice. The whole thing is illegal as hell.
So you think a president should be able to get away with inciting an insurrection, as long as it's done close enough to the end of their term that it's impractical to impeach and convict them.
 
He is NOT the president now, and this democrat shit show of hate is NOT being presided over by the Chief Justice. The whole thing is illegal as hell.
No the Chief Justice only precide over the impeachment of sitting President. Trump was a sitting Presiden when impeached, but as you said then his term ran out, so the Chief Judge shouldn't preside over the impeachment since he isn't a sitting President anymore. It's just confusing becuase it hasn't happened before. But it's how the law work in this case.

Besides the body that decides whether a Impeachment is legal is the Senate, and they already decided the Impeachment is Constitutional.
 
Why did I know I would regret bothering to click on this.
But since someone else is bound to point out to you, once again, Trump was impeached as the president of the united states.
Then why isn't he being tried as the president of the United states?
 
If Congress can impeach a private citizen like Trump, they can hold an illegal trial and impeach ANY private citizen for anything they would want to. But that is what the tyrants in the democrat party probably want. Radical left wing democrat have it in their head they should be able to control every aspect of our lives.

Pelosi would lead the charge for that. She is already on record saying that Congress should have the power to censor what citizens post the social media. I guess she doesnt want anyone telling the truth about her.

Amazing, every word of what you just said was wrong.
 
You can't have it both ways. The trial is unconstitutional.
The Senate already decided it is Constitutional.

And there are precedence, just not with a President. He was in office when he was impeached, then his term ended before the trial begun. The Senate votes whether the impeachment is constitutional, they voted it's constitutional, the trial can legally proceed.
 
If Congress can impeach a private citizen like Trump, they can hold an illegal trial and impeach ANY private citizen for anything they would want to.

Impeachment is for federal officials.
 
Look at it this way

In 1880 President Grant's Secretary of War was found to be corrupt. The Secretary of War promptly resigned thinking that would save him.

Congress impeached, tried and found him guilty even though he was no longer in government service.

There's precedent.
 
If Congress can impeach a private citizen like Trump, they can hold an illegal trial and impeach ANY private citizen for anything they would want to. But that is what the tyrants in the democrat party probably want. Radical left wing democrat have it in their head they should be able to control every aspect of our lives.

Pelosi would lead the charge for that. She is already on record saying that Congress should have the power to censor what citizens post the social media. I guess she doesnt want anyone telling the truth about her.


Good lord, Trump was impeached WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT...
 
Look at it this way

In 1880 President Grant's Secretary of War was found to be corrupt. The Secretary of War promptly resigned thinking that would save him.

Congress impeached, tried and found him guilty even though he was no longer in government service.

There's precedent.
Actually Belknap was not convicted because then like now having 2/3 of the Senators (how many were there back then?) agree on something is impossible. But that's besides the point. The impeachment was legal then, and it's legal now.
 
If Congress can impeach a private citizen like Trump, they can hold an illegal trial and impeach ANY private citizen for anything they would want to. But that is what the tyrants in the democrat party probably want. Radical left wing democrat have it in their head they should be able to control every aspect of our lives.

Pelosi would lead the charge for that. She is already on record saying that Congress should have the power to censor what citizens post the social media. I guess she doesnt want anyone telling the truth about her.

Trump was President when he was impeached.

Even the dumbest potatoes know that.
 
If Congress can impeach a private citizen like Trump, they can hold an illegal trial and impeach ANY private citizen for anything they would want to. But that is what the tyrants in the democrat party probably want. Radical left wing democrat have it in their head they should be able to control every aspect of our lives.

Pelosi would lead the charge for that. She is already on record saying that Congress should have the power to censor what citizens post the social media. I guess she doesnt want anyone telling the truth about her.

Look at it this way if you don’t want to impeach private citizens then a President could commit any impeachable offense on their way out. Such law and order you promote!
 
If Congress can impeach a private citizen like Trump, they can hold an illegal trial and impeach ANY private citizen for anything they would want to. But that is what the tyrants in the democrat party probably want. Radical left wing democrat have it in their head they should be able to control every aspect of our lives.

Pelosi would lead the charge for that. She is already on record saying that Congress should have the power to censor what citizens post the social media. I guess she doesnt want anyone telling the truth about her.
Congress did not impeach a private citizen. Provide a source where they did.
 
The Senate already decided it is Constitutional.

And there are precedence, just not with a President. He was in office when he was impeached, then his term ended before the trial begun. The Senate votes whether the impeachment is constitutional, they voted it's constitutional, the trial can legally proceed.
This actually kind of pisses me off. The Senate didn't decide the trial is constitutional. Only Article 3 can decide if something is constitutional or not. If 45 is convicted, he could go to court and the courts would decide if his claim had merit, and eventually if the trial was constitutional. This vote was totally frivolous (a way for chicken R's to act like they are supporting 45 without actually doing anything.
 
If Congress can impeach a private citizen like Trump, they can hold an illegal trial and impeach ANY private citizen for anything they would want to. But that is what the tyrants in the democrat party probably want. Radical left wing democrat have it in their head they should be able to control every aspect of our lives.

Pelosi would lead the charge for that. She is already on record saying that Congress should have the power to censor what citizens post the social media. I guess she doesnt want anyone telling the truth about her.

When they impeached him, he was the president.

The TRIAL is after he left office.

I am enormously disappointed that you don't get the distinction.
 
This actually kind of pisses me off. The Senate didn't decide the trial is constitutional. Only Article 3 can decide if something is constitutional or not. If 45 is convicted, he could go to court and the courts would decide if his claim had merit, and eventually if the trial was constitutional. This vote was totally frivolous (a way for chicken R's to act like they are supporting 45 without actually doing anything.

Except the courts have no say. The constitution names the senate as the "sole power" with respect to trying impeachments.
 
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