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Lockdowns and face masks ‘unequivocally’ cut spread of Covid, report finds

justoneman said:
People can wear whatever they want. I said nothing about masks and social distancing. I said people are not ever going to accept lock downs. They absolutely will not.
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1. You saying something doesn’t have any influence on facts.

2. Like with the last pandemic, there wouldn’t/won’t be a popular vote to decide on lockdowns. That is a primary responsibility of the officials we elect. And those that refuse to comply can deal with any consequences.
 
soap box said:
Gee , does anybody know why surgeons wear masks? Asking for a friend..
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Well, shoot. I hope you've also been scrubbing your hands and arms for five minutes, having someone put gloves on you, wearing booties and sterile clothing, and putting on a surgical hat, because surgeons do that, too.
 
justoneman said:
All the shut downs were stupid. We destroyed our economy and people's lives for a flattened curve that did nothing. Never again. People will not stand for one minute of it.
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See, that post was remarkably stupid. If you get sick, do you want to be denied care because the hospital is full because everyone got sick at the same time?

And you'll stand for it. Talk is cheap.
 
justoneman said:
The lock downs flattened the curve. Countries that did big lock downs ultimately had the same percentages of infections as did those countries that were less strict.
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True, but some of those countries delayed the main covid wave until they had high levels of vaccination, and ended up with a covid death rate only ~25% of the US rate even with similar infection rates.
 
soap box said:
Did we have a potentially fatal disease without a vaccine or cure that could be spread rapidly by people who showed no symptoms before COVID-19?
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Surgeons wore masks before Covid, because internal infection is quite different to inhalation. There is no safe minimum.
 
The evidence further indicates higher-quality respirator masks – such as N95 masks – were more effective than surgical-type masks." ..The review found social distancing and lockdowns were the most effective category of NPIs.
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Duh.

Stay-at-home orders, physical distancing and restrictions on gathering size were repeatedly found to be associated with significant reduction in Sars-CoV-2 transmission. The more stringent the measures were the greater the effect they had, the experts found.
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wrapping yourself in tape head to toe is a very effective measure to stop transmission
 
justoneman said:
All the shut downs were stupid. We destroyed our economy and people's lives for a flattened curve that did nothing. Never again. People will not stand for one minute of it.
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Flattening the curve did reduce fatalities before vaccines came to the rescue. I think you know that, really.

As others have pointed out, flattening the curve also prevented hospitals from being overwhelmed, and therefore saved tens of thousands of lives. Remember when respirators were in short supply? Or was your brain already embalmed in conspiracy theory nonsense, so didn't pay attention even when Trump himself tried to solve the problem ...
 
RaleBulgarian said:
1. You saying something doesn’t have any influence on facts.

2. Like with the last pandemic, there wouldn’t/won’t be a popular vote to decide on lockdowns. That is a primary responsibility of the officials we elect. And those that refuse to comply can deal with any consequences.
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People will not allow it. It would create a massive protest. It's not about votes. Millions will not comply.
 
Ug make hammer said:
Flattening the curve did reduce fatalities before vaccines came to the rescue. I think you know that, really.

As others have pointed out, flattening the curve also prevented hospitals from being overwhelmed, and therefore saved tens of thousands of lives. Remember when respirators were in short supply? Or was your brain already embalmed in conspiracy theory nonsense, so didn't pay attention even when Trump himself tried to solve the problem ...
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Flattening the curve only spread the infection rate. It did not reduce the numbers at all.
 
Ishm said:
True, but some of those countries delayed the main covid wave until they had high levels of vaccination, and ended up with a covid death rate only ~25% of the US rate even with similar infection rates.
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What? Are you talking only about rural New Zealand?
 
Taylor said:
Well, shoot. I hope you've also been scrubbing your hands and arms for five minutes, having someone put gloves on you, wearing booties and sterile clothing, and putting on a surgical hat, because surgeons do that, too.
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Nah, just a mask when it makes sense.
 
The report is propaganda filled with lies.
 
Hamish Howl said:
If you get sick, do you want to be denied care because the hospital is full because everyone got sick at the same time?
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Yes it is what I want. Shutting down everything as we did also caused deaths.
 
Ug make hammer said:
I just assumed that "lockdowns" included mask mandates, occupancy limits in shops, and other measures short of shutting down shops and businesses. You must admit, some of your fellow opponents of government action, use the term very loosely.

I was always skeptical of "shutouts" as they're more properly called. Many businesses could have provided a safe work space, and most employees drive to work alone in a car. Some shutouts were justified (eg hair dressers) but most could have been imposed business-by-business instead of industry wide. We could have avoided the supply chain disruptions, which triggered inflation.
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That's only if the entire world had done the same things. That will never happen. While we're working, China is shut down.
 
j brown's body said:
"Measures taken during the Covid pandemic such as social distancing and wearing face masks “unequivocally” reduced the spread of infections, a report has found....The Royal Society report, called Covid-19: examining the effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical interventions, reviewed the evidence gathered during the pandemic for six groups of NPIs and their effectiveness in reducing transmission.

These included masks and face coverings, social distancing and lockdowns, test, trace and isolate, travel restrictions and controls across international borders, environmental controls, and communications. When assessed individually, there was positive – if limited – evidence of transmission reduction from many of the NPIs used in the pandemic, the review found. However, evidence of a positive effect was clear when countries used combinations of NPIs.

...When looking at the use of face masks and mask mandates, studies consistently reported the measures were an effective approach to reduce infection. The evidence further indicates higher-quality respirator masks – such as N95 masks – were more effective than surgical-type masks." ..The review found social distancing and lockdowns were the most effective category of NPIs. Stay-at-home orders, physical distancing and restrictions on gathering size were repeatedly found to be associated with significant reduction in Sars-CoV-2 transmission. The more stringent the measures were the greater the effect they had, the experts found.

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Seems like common sense. Something to keep in mind going forward.
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But Fauci is a card carrying Antifa, commie, socialist bent on enslaving all Christian, white people.

And Hunter's laptop and HILLARY.

And, of course there's always BENGHAZI!!
 
justoneman said:
People will not allow it. It would create a massive protest. It's not about votes. Millions will not comply.
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Some will refuse, like before.

Those that refuse will deal with the consequences of their refusal, like before.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Some will refuse, like before.

Those that refuse will deal with the consequences of their refusal, like before.
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No it will not be like it was before. Now people are wise to the reality of what happened with lock downs and all the restrictions. People will not allow it to happen again.
 
justoneman said:
No it will not be like it was before. Now people are wise to the reality of what happened with lock downs and all the restrictions. People will not allow it to happen again.
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Keep on Chicken Littleing. 🙄
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Of course.
We would have recovered more quickly if the the ill informed had not been so stubborn.
 
justoneman said:
People will not allow it. It would create a massive protest. It's not about votes. Millions will not comply.
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As you say this, many businesses are still fighting to get workers to come in from home.

You might be surprised by the number of those willing to comply.

And then those who have to comply because they are sick, or considered to be more susceptible to getting the virus.

Those who won't comply are simply the loudest and most fervent in their belief.
 
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