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Liz Cheney, We Have a Memory. You’re No Hero.

I do have a high level of respect for the vast majority of cops, even in the inner cities. And yes, blue lives matter, black lives matter, and caucasion lives matter. BLM however is an anarchist terrorist organization.


Not rational enough for a response.

Trump supporters are terrorists. They proved that on Jan 6. Trump supporters are far worse than BLM. BLM did not try to overthrow the government over a bullshit lie, like Trump supporters did.

I take it you are a proud Trump supporter?
 
That is just your opinion, motivated by hatred of Trump.
Trump isn’t worth the energy it takes to hate.
Which lie would that be?
Try to keep up. “The Big Lie” is that he was cheated.
Only in the minds of Trump hating libruls.
😆 No.
Most of which have already backtracked and are now supporting Trump. The one who did not, has lost her leadership position.
Yep, a bunch of chicken shit politicians caring more about keeping their jobs than being honest, and upholding their oaths.

And then there are those who are trying to have it both ways and failing miserably.

Yesterday; McCarthy after ousting Cheney: “I don’t think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election”
The only thing idiotic is your refusal to consider the comparison. Bernie Sanders inspired a nutjob who ultimately attempted to murder every republican congressman in sight at a baseball practice. Bernie certainly did not tell him to go out and do that, And Trump did not tell the nutjobs who raided the Capitol to do so.
You ought to be an expert in recognizing “idiotic”, as it is a standard ingredient in much of your postings.

Bernie Sanders did not specifically call on his supporters to go to Capital building to stop Congress, and the VP, from fulfilling their Constitutional duty.

Bernie Sanders didn’t begin lying his ass off on election night, when it was becoming clear that he lost the election.

Bernie Sanders didn’t spend much of his time, prior to election day, telling his supporters that the only way he could lose would be if he were cheated.

Trump did all of that, and much worse.
You sound flustered. Trump is clearly living in your head rent free.
Wrong again. As of January 20th, Trump, himself, returned to his former, appropriate, place of irrelevance, and reason for hope returned.

The shit filled head of the Republican Party has been separated from the body, only the body hasn’t accepted that reality yet. As more time passes they will (including yourself) though.
 
I never suggested that one could get cancer from windmills and if Trump made the suggestion, I certainly do not agree with it However I do not support Trump over his opinion on windmills, I support him based on campaign promises he made in the lead up to the 2016 election and how well he followed through on them. However to be honest, I don't think his opinion on windmills is any nuttier then the left wing opinions on alleged man-made climate change.
So how angry are you that he did not repeal and replace ObamaCare on Day One?
So how angry are you that Hillary was not locked up?
So how angry were you that Mexico did not pay for the wall?
 




During the 116th Congress, Cheney voted 92.8% in line with Trump policy expectations. Within the 115th Congress, Rep. Cheney voted 95.8% in line with Trump policy expectations.

Legislatively, Cheney was a stronger Trump supporter than any of the candidates McCarthy has dragooned into replacing her.

Liz Cheney is no heroine. She willingly did her part to make the Trump presidency the darkest in American history.
I absolutely agree. Her denial of the "big lie" is merely a tactic to get her name out there. She's hoping either to write a book, featuring her as a hero, or she's counting on being the only one standing when the GOP implodes.
 
I absolutely agree. Her denial of the "big lie" is merely a tactic to get her name out there. She's hoping either to write a book, featuring her as a hero, or she's counting on being the only one standing when the GOP implodes.
Why can’t she be doing any, or all of the above and fulfilling her oath by publicly standing against Trump’s Big Lie?
 
I absolutely agree. Her denial of the "big lie" is merely a tactic to get her name out there. She's hoping either to write a book, featuring her as a hero, or she's counting on being the only one standing when the GOP implodes.

If what Cheney is doing is so personally convenient for her, then A LOT more Republicans would be following her example. They are not. In fact, this is most likely going to result in the end of her political career.

I've despised the Cheney family for 20 years, but she is standing up for democracy against the fascist Trump Cult Republican Party, which will most definitely end democracy in this country if they win back the House and Senate in 2022. Liz Cheney and I are on the same side right now and will remain so until Trumpism is destroyed.
 
Why can’t she be doing any, or all of the above and fulfilling her oath by publicly standing against Trump’s Big Lie?
She is. But she also refused to condemn birtherism and huge neocon - cheerleader for the Iraq war. She erased protection for the Grey Wolf, opposed anti-hate crime legislation and voted against trump's first impeachment.

Screw her. I hope she burns along with the rest of the soulless pricks.
 
She is. But she also refused to condemn birtherism and huge neocon - cheerleader for the Iraq war. She erased protection for the Grey Wolf, opposed anti-hate crime legislation and voted against trump's first impeachment.

Screw her. I hope she burns along with the rest of the soulless pricks.
Fair enough.
 
Can you discuss topics in your own words? Or just post pictures?
The democrats have been dividing America for over six decades
and at an increased level over the past year,
by supporting the anarchist movements

of BLM and Antifa.
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So how angry are you that he did not repeal and replace ObamaCare on Day One?

Not angry at all. One would have to be a complete idiot to think any president could snap his fingers and accomplish that in day one. It would have required cooperation by the US Congress, not to mention the wussies in the republican congress not sure he would survive the first six month in office over the Russian Collusion hoax. I am pleased that Trump ultimately managed to push through repeal of the individual mandate. That is half of repealing Obamacare.

So how angry are you that Hillary was not locked up?

Whatever anger I may have over that evil wench not getting locked up goes all the way her philander husbands 5 terms as governor of Arkansas and one term as state Attorney General. She should have been locked up over crimes going that far back, including "insider trading" and crimes related to the Rose Law Firm. Then there were the crimes committed during the Clinton Administration, the Obama Administration, not to mention the crimes involved with the abuse of the FISA courts that led to the Russian Collusion Hoax. The Durham Investigation is still ongoing. Do I think the hildabeast will end up convicted over that? Probably not. We seem to have a two tiered justice system these days.

So how angry were you that Mexico did not pay for the wall?

Not at all for two reasons. One, I never really cared if Mexico paid for the wall or not. I just wanted the damn thing built. And two, the concept of Mexico paying for the wall never meant forcing Mexico to simply write a check for the cost of the wall. You libruls need to learn to stop taking everything so literally. Indirectly Mexico was paying at least until Dopey Joe opened the border again. It was not the US paying for the deployment of Mexican troops who blocked many of the illegals from coming in as the wall was being built.
 
Cheney is a republican, or supposed to be. She needs to support republican voters, they voted Trump, they liked his policies, they didn't see Trump inciting the capital riot. She was a Trump hater for the get go who just voted Trump because she wanted to be reelected by the republicans in her state.
All but a few Q Anon nut jobs who have Trump photos to worship dear leader are pandering so hard you can see sheet in their eyeballs. Who wouldn't fear a base full of homegrown terrorists and stalkers.
Cheney only shines the viewing spotlight for all to see it. That's why they hate her.
It's an uncomfortable time to be a republican.
 
Then after you lost in 2016, you acted like a bunch of spoiled 5 year olds for four years. See how that works? Your side never accepted the results of the 2016 election. And there was considerably more violence motivated by the left over those four years then the riot at Capitol Hill.
So all this current fanboy activity is just payback? Is Trump the new mob boss of the WH? lol
Let me guess, his right hand man is Marj Greene, and she has orders from the boss to brawl Cortez.
In case you didn't know, it's embarrassing.
 
All but a few Q Anon nut jobs who have Trump photos to worship dear leader are pandering so hard you can see sheet in their eyeballs. Who wouldn't fear a base full of homegrown terrorists and stalkers.
Cheney only shines the viewing spotlight for all to see it. That's why they hate her.
It's an uncomfortable time to be a republican.

Rubbish. Cheney did not lose her position over voting to impeach Trump. She lost if over her failure to get over the Capitol Riot and move on. The impeachment failed to get a conviction. Unless the democrats want to try Trump in civilian court(They would never get a conviction), it's over. In the eyes of the law, Trump is innocent. Continued claims of Trump incitement are just democrat party narrative. They want to milk the Capitol riot for as long as they can. Cheney lost her leadership post because instead of representing her constituents, she is on a personal crusade against Trump. I doubt she will be re-elected in 2022.
 
So all this current fanboy activity is just payback? Is Trump the new mob boss of the WH? lol
Let me guess, his right hand man is Marj Greene, and she has orders from the boss to brawl Cortez.
In case you didn't know, it's embarrassing.

Not in my case. And it has never been just about Trump. I am a follower of the populist movement that started in 2010 six years prior to the 2016 election. Trump simply tapped into that movement and has been loyal to it. I prefer that movement to continue with or without Trump. At this point in time, Trump represents that movement. And at this point, it is Trump's republican party. Most of the republican party establishment now realizes that and accepts it. had the republican party been true to it's own party platform and represented it's base for the last three decades, Trump would have never been a factor.
 
Not angry at all. One would have to be a complete idiot to think any president could snap his fingers and accomplish that in day one. It would have required cooperation by the US Congress, not to mention the wussies in the republican congress not sure he would survive the first six month in office over the Russian Collusion hoax. I am pleased that Trump ultimately managed to push through repeal of the individual mandate. That is half of repealing Obamacare.

Welp, there were thousands of complete idiots who seal clapped and cheered every time he mentioned this. What a pathetic group of dopes.

There was collusion. Did you need read the report? Probably not.

Whatever anger I may have over that evil wench not getting locked up goes all the way her philander husbands 5 terms as governor of Arkansas and one term as state Attorney General. She should have been locked up over crimes going that far back, including "insider trading" and crimes related to the Rose Law Firm. Then there were the crimes committed during the Clinton Administration, the Obama Administration, not to mention the crimes involved with the abuse of the FISA courts that led to the Russian Collusion Hoax. The Durham Investigation is still ongoing. Do I think the hildabeast will end up convicted over that? Probably not. We seem to have a two tiered justice system these days.

Why do you have so much hate for one person? Its like 30 years of Limbaugh and Fox really worked. And if she supposedly did all these things, why isn't she in jail? Trump had 4 years. Like his healthcare plan that was always "2 weeks away".

Durham Investigation, what a joke that is. Last I heard he was interviewing homeless people trying to see if they had any information on Hillary.

Not at all for two reasons. One, I never really cared if Mexico paid for the wall or not. I just wanted the damn thing built. And two, the concept of Mexico paying for the wall never meant forcing Mexico to simply write a check for the cost of the wall. You libruls need to learn to stop taking everything so literally. Indirectly Mexico was paying at least until Dopey Joe opened the border again. It was not the US paying for the deployment of Mexican troops who blocked many of the illegals from coming in as the wall was being built.

Again, thousands of dopes seal clapped and chanted "Build that Wall" every time Trump mentioned Mexico paying for it. And millions believed him. And then came in defense of him when he moved monies from other areas to pay for his wall (that was never completed.....in fact most of it was just replacing existing wall. What a scam. Wait, you didn't send money to that GoScamMe account that was raising money to pay for the wall, did you?

Sure, you can try and spin your way out of it, Hannity supposedly did the same thing. Its sad. Just admit. He lied to you. He never once said the reasons that you claim. Never. Trump's not that smart. He likes slogans. It helps the deplorables chant those things at his rallies. Makes him feel important, almost like he was King.

I guess him not fulfilling his campaign promises is okay. Make sure you give other Presidents the same leeway.
 
Welp, there were thousands of complete idiots who seal clapped and cheered every time he mentioned this. What a pathetic group of dopes.
TDS is clouding your objectivity. They were not cheering "Mexico paying for the wall", they were cheering that Trump intended to build the wall.

There was collusion. Did you need read the report? Probably not.

If there was collusion at all, it was between the Hillary camp and the Russians to come up with that phony dossier. Even your buddy Mueller concluded that there was no evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump administration.

Again, thousands of dopes seal clapped and chanted "Build that Wall" every time Trump mentioned Mexico paying for it. And millions believed him.
The key words are "Build that Wall". You just destroyed your own argument without my help. In effect, you just admitted that Trump supporters just wanted the wall built. And it was mostly built.

Sure, you can try and spin your way out of it, Hannity supposedly did the same thing. Its sad. Just admit. He lied to you. He never once said the reasons that you claim. Never. Trump's not that smart. He likes slogans. It helps the deplorables chant those things at his rallies. Makes him feel important, almost like he was King.

Not that smart? ROFLMAO! He was smart enough to defeat the hildabeast an d all of the idiotic opinion polls that collectively suggested he had a 16% chance of victory.

I guess him not fulfilling his campaign promises is okay. Make sure you give other Presidents the same leeway.

Trump did largely fulfill his campaign promises. Failure to completely repeal and replace Obamacare is on congress, not him. And I do not hold the republicans in congress blameless. After campaigning for seven years on repealing and replacing Obamacare prior to 2016, they got the chance when Trump was elected president and chickened out. Again, I commend Trump for at least pushing through the repeal of the individual mandate. Any questions?
 
TDS is clouding your objectivity. They were not cheering "Mexico paying for the wall", they were cheering that Trump intended to build the wall.

Wrong.



If there was collusion at all, it was between the Hillary camp and the Russians to come up with that phony dossier. Even your buddy Mueller concluded that there was no evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump administration.

Nice moving the goalposts. Care to answer the question?

The key words are "Build that Wall". You just destroyed your own argument without my help. In effect, you just admitted that Trump supporters just wanted the wall built. And it was mostly built.

Mostly? Good god, what a fabrication.


Mostly would mean that about 1800 miles of wall was built. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Not that smart? ROFLMAO! He was smart enough to defeat the hildabeast an d all of the idiotic opinion polls that collectively suggested he had a 16% chance of victory.

Right, he's so smart that he lost to a senile man living in the basement.
So smart he suggested injecting disinfectant and sticking UV light in our bodies.
He was smart one time - When he claimed he was going to march with the insurrectionists down to the capitol. He didn't, because he knew they were going to invade the capitol.
Smart. Stable genius. Biggest brain.

Trump did largely fulfill his campaign promises. Failure to completely repeal and replace Obamacare is on congress, not him. And I do not hold the republicans in congress blameless. After campaigning for seven years on repealing and replacing Obamacare prior to 2016, they got the chance when Trump was elected president and chickened out. Again, I commend Trump for at least pushing through the repeal of the individual mandate. Any questions?

Of course you don't blame Trump. That's what the Trump cult is all about. Never blame the leader. Just worship him.[/QUOTE]
 
Last night during a Fox interview, Bret Baier asked Cheney why she was still peddling the lie, an 'anonymously sourced story about Russian bounties on U.S soldiers while they served in Afghanistan'...She answered by saying, "it squared with her concerns about Russian and Trump." Brett called her out on her baloney and said, "she needs to check his facts.
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— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) May 13, 2021

Tonight, Cheney attempted to downplay how key she was to spreading the false Afghanistan bounty info op. But the way she worked so hard to push the lie into the media bothered fellow members and intel officials last year. More here. https://t.co/ZLr64ggu4n https://t.co/pnVk755pVK
— Mollie (@MZHemingway) May 14, 2021
To recap, Liz Cheney peddled a lie about Russian bounties on our troops to hurt Trump and doesn’t care about it. This wasn’t her job, by the way. It was simple: raise money and get your people elected. She couldn’t do that. And she doesn’t need to comment on everything. Now, she’s going to lead a skeleton crew of anti-Trump Republicans, who are pretty much already Democrats, to fight Trumpism behind the scenes. Well, good luck. The next chapter of this story is her losing a primary challenge, God-willing.

 
Rubbish. Cheney did not lose her position over voting to impeach Trump. She lost if over her failure to get over the Capitol Riot and move on.

The GQP stripped her of her position just for speaking her mind? Damn, the Right really does have a cancel culture!
 

Again, you destroyed your own narrative and supported mine when you quoted Trump fans yelling: "Build the wall!"

Right, he's so smart that he lost to a senile man living in the basement.


Defeating yourself again without my help. You just admitted that Dopey Joe is a senile old man. I agree.

So smart he suggested injecting disinfectant and sticking UV light in our bodies.
No actually he did not suggest anything of the sort. That is just the narrative after the media took what he did say out of context. Read the entire conversation and you will come to a different conclusion unless blinded by TDS. A common librul tactic is quoting a statement and leaving out what was said before and after, effectively altering the context.

He was smart one time - When he claimed he was going to march with the insurrectionists down to the capitol. He didn't, because he knew they were going to invade the capitol.

Again you are taking Trump out of context. What trump suggested was a peaceful march on Washington to have your voices heard. Nowhere did he suggest breaking into the Capitol and rioting.

Of course you don't blame Trump. That's what the Trump cult is all about. Never blame the leader. Just worship him.
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You are making yourself look ignorant about government in general. We are not a dictatorship. Trump could for instance order Obamacare repealed and replaced. The executive branch is just one of the three separate but equal branches of government. To repeal and replace Obamacare could only be done with the legislative branch going along. Perhaps you should have paid attention in American Government classes in Junior High and High School. As for cults. The only cultish behavior is coming from anti-Trumpers like yourself. You hate the man at such a level that you cannot think rationally. Support of a politician does not translate to worship. I and others in the conservative base support Trump over policy. If Trump were to go mushy on conservative principles and values and start coming off as a moderate or librul, I would not support him. Is that too difficult for you to take in?
 
I haven't read the whole thread, so excuse me if this is a duplicate, but I think she explained her position very clearly.


Cheney deserved to lose her leadership position. Instead of working to unify the party and represent her constituents, she is on a one woman crusade to torch Trump. When she had her say after January 6 and did not lose her leadership position, she should have moved on. She did not do so. She continued her crusade and lost her leadership position. She's been censured by her own state and will likely be primaried out in 2022. Good riddance.
 
Rep Cheney is looking at the future of the Republican Party. Trump and his “ideology“ are not going to expand the demographics needed to win elections.

jmo
 
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