Liz Cheney hints Jan 6 committee may hold more public hearings

[Michael Cole]

Good thing I didn't say that.

Sure you did. You're saying it again. Right here, below...

What on earth COULD he have said during the campaign, or after that resulted in a lack of confidence towards oil?
Are all these people wrong for thinking this administration is not keen on the oil and gas industry?

Honestly it baffles me to have to explain any of this because you and a bunch of others here are not dumb people, but anything to get out of accepting this administration's has any fault, gets tiring.

A child can hear/read/understand this administrations stance on oil and gas. As can you, but it's the willful ignorance on display instead.

You think the oil companies' business decisions are based on Biden being mean.

Biden doesn't control private oil. The oil companies don't give a damn what he says. That's reality.

Now, if you have evidence that Biden has restricted these companies from pumping oil, present it. So far, all the talk about Biden has centered around "mean words." Sorry, even a child won't buy that.

 

[Cope]

Sure you did. You're saying it again. Right here, below...

You think the oil companies' business decisions are based on Biden being mean.

Not being mean, based upon how the administration will favor or disfavor a commodity. Like all of them.

Biden doesn't control private oil. The oil companies don't give a damn what he says. That's reality.

Oh I see the disconnect. You think I am blaming Biden the person instead of Biden as part of his administration.

Now, if you have evidence that Biden has restricted these companies from pumping oil, present it. So far, all the talk about Biden has centered around "mean words." Sorry, even a child won't buy that.

Again with the inability to see and understand that the word I used was "confidence". And that confidence was eroded throughout the campaign by many of his own words.

 

[Michael Cole]

Not being mean, based upon how the administration will favor or disfavor a commodity. Like all of them.

Oh I see the disconnect. You think I am blaming Biden the person instead of Biden as part of his administration.

Again with the inability to see and understand that the word I used was "confidence". And that confidence was eroded throughout the campaign by many of his own words.

So, you have nothing.

Businesses don't operate based on the "confidence" of an administration (whatever that is.) It's an absurd notion. If there's oil in the ground, and a company can make money by pumping it, they're gonna pump it, regardless of what Biden says.

Now, if you have a piece of legislation signed by Biden or an EO that restricts oil companies from pumping oil on their privately owned property, present it. You can't, because it doesn't exist.

The administration's push to renewable energy has no effect on the oil currently being produced.

 

[Galactic Spin]

Not being mean, based upon how the administration will favor or disfavor a commodity. Like all of them.

Which is pure nuttery. The private oil companies are not changing production now to account for land rights 10 years from now. Land rights that wouldn't even produce oil for years after that. This is pure right wing nuttery handed down by paid liars.

 

[jpevans]

shrug...

Sure...let them have their lame duck fun. It won't change anything.

Take it for granted the R’s will prevail in November. Count your eggs & call them chickens.

 

[jpevans]

There won't be any indictment. There's no evidence to support one.

The dog and pony show's narrative is not enough. Besides, the narrative isn't for the DOJ. It's for the useful idiots.

The Useful Idiot is likely a target.

 

[Cope]

So, you have nothing.

Businesses don't operate based on the "confidence" of an administration (whatever that is.) It's an absurd notion. If there's oil in the ground, and a company can make money by pumping it, they're gonna pump it, regardless of what Biden says.

Of course they do. Who would pour millions into a business when the federal government has said that they want to phase oil and gas out?
You simply cannot be seriously arguing this.

Now, if you have a piece of legislation signed by Biden or an EO that restricts oil companies from pumping oil on their privately owned property, present it. You can't, because it doesn't exist.

The administration's push to renewable energy has no effect on the oil currently being produced.

Again ... If you can't or don't see the connect then we can stop discussing it.

 

[Cope]

Which is pure nuttery. The private oil companies are not changing production now to account for land rights 10 years from now. Land rights that wouldn't even produce oil for years after that. This is pure right wing nuttery handed down by paid liars.

It is clear that you folks arguing this are not business owners.
Of course production, refining and all the money it takes to start up, refit, upgrade, meet regulations, and explore are all based upon the potential for making that money back.

To argue otherwise is the nuttery.

 

[Ambig]

It was pretty self explanatory in the post. My tribe is in the middle.

You belong to the middle tribe? I don't know what that means.

What can I help you understand? I never said YOU were on a side, merely stating that there ARE sides. Whether you think you are on one side or the other is irrelevant.

What are the sides? How many, and can you name them?

 

[Cope]

You belong to the middle tribe? I don't know what that means.

Its ok.

What are the sides? How many, and can you name them?

I imagine there are a lot of sides, people being people wouldn't you say?

 

[Ambig]

I imagine there are a lot of sides, people being people wouldn't you say?

Yeah, as many sides are there are people.

 

[uptower]

And then after the GOP takes the House in the midterms, They will hold hearings and ask the questions the 1/6 committee intentionally avoided. Perhaps we will find out who really incited the 1/6 riot.

I can confidently say not a chance. Republicans do not want to discuss Jan 6 at all.

 

[uptower]

Whom do you suspect incited it? I remember a heavy set reddish-haired guy speaking to a crowd, blaming VP Pence and telling people they would lose their country if the didn’t act. Then someone gave them Trump banners and they stormed the Capitol, some chanting “Hang Mike Pence.” So I suspect the red head —and suspect his hair as well.

But I am open to other theories. What’s yours?

Look there's absolutely no chance a mob of Trump supporters, wearing Trump hats and T-shirts, waving Trump flags stormed the capitol with the intention of installing Trump as president, immediately after a Trump speech they attended where Trump fired them up with lies about their country being stolen, and called on them to March on the capitol to overturn the election and promised he, Donald Trump, would be right there beside them.

I see no connection at all.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I can confidently say not a chance. Republicans do not want to discuss Jan 6 at all.

I can say with confidence, they will want top check it out all the way and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[Michael Cole]

Of course they do. Who would pour millions into a business when the federal government has said that they want to phase oil and gas out?
You simply cannot be seriously arguing this.

Again ... If you can't or don't see the connect then we can stop discussing it.

I'm waiting for an EO or a piece of legislation. Repeating yourself isn't convincing.

The disconnect is your apparent contention that any phase-out occurs overnight.

As well, the phase-out is being done through the private sector. Biden could proclaim he hates EVs. Won't stop companies from producing them.

Your argument is nonsensical. If oil companies are leaving their wells capped, it's for reasons other than Biden.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Disastrously; we can thank successive conservative governments for blatantly lying to us and screwing that up, just like they have screwed up everything else over the past 12 years of right-wing incompetence. And now, barely four weeks into the job of PM, Liz Truss has already ****ed up, and her own party wants her gone.

Liz Truss warned ‘the game is up’ as Tory MPs call for her to resign

Calls for PM to be replaced come as defence secretary’s allies said to be shoring up support for a takeover

www.independent.co.uk

Well, when you give up your soveriengty for that amount of time, don't expect instant recovery. Not only was Brexit for the best, it was and is democracy in action. The majority of your fellow Brits chose it. It's not about conservative vs librul.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Well, you commie fascists are even worse. We can't believe anything you say.

So emotional.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Out of one side of your mouth you ridule a Brit over Brexit.

Out of the other, you support it.

I do support Brexit and I was not ridiculing him over it.

 

[Michael Cole]

It is clear that you folks arguing this are not business owners.
Of course production, refining and all the money it takes to start up, refit, upgrade, meet regulations, and explore are all based upon the potential for making that money back.

To argue otherwise is the nuttery.

We are not starting from ground level.

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)

Nov. 2019, production peaked at 13,000. By May, 2020, six months later, production bottomed out at 9,713.

Now, unless you're gonna claim wells went dry, this is evidence of well capping or severely limiting the oil being pumped.

Of course, the wells didn't dry up. The oil is still there. Biden has not restricted any oil company from pumping it.

We have the capacity to (at least) produce 13,000,000 bbl/day. It is the oil companies who have chosen not to utilize this capacity. Has nothing to do with Biden.

 

[snakestretcher]

Well, when you give up your soveriengty for that amount of time, don't expect instant recovery. Not only was Brexit for the best, it was and is democracy in action. The majority of your fellow Brits chose it. It's not about conservative vs librul.

Brexit is a disaster and was sold to the gullible based on lies, deception and half-truths.

One year on, it’s clear that Brexit has failed on its advocates’ own terms

Now that the Brexit deal has been in force for a year, it’s worth looking at initial claims from the politicians who forced through an exit from the EU’s single market.

www.cer.eu

Brexit is a failure: but, to remainers’ frustration, it’s not a spectacular one | Rafael Behr

The shelves are empty. Yet leavers, though no longer triumphant, can usually blame the problems on the EU, says Guardian columnist Rafael Behr

www.theguardian.com

Why even the Brexiteers are in despair over Brexit

Leavers have collided with the reality that the potential benefits of Brexit are far outweighed by the costs.

www.newstatesman.com

 

[Cope]

We are not starting from ground level.

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)

Nov. 2019, production peaked at 13,000. By May, 2020, six months later, production bottomed out at 9,713.

Now, unless you're gonna claim wells went dry, this is evidence of well capping or severely limiting the oil being pumped.

Of course, the wells didn't dry up. The oil is still there. Biden has not restricted any oil company from pumping it.

We have the capacity to (at least) produce 13,000,000 bbl/day. It is the oil companies who have chosen not to utilize this capacity. Has nothing to do with Biden.

In some limited cases, sure.

In all the others, that isn't correct. It is ground level. Exploration, leases, refinery upgrades, new refineries, new wells.

None of those will get built or done, at all, if the confidence in the administration has eroded, and it most certainly has.

 

[Cope]

I'm waiting for an EO or a piece of legislation. Repeating yourself isn't convincing.

The disconnect is your apparent contention that any phase-out occurs overnight.

As well, the phase-out is being done through the private sector. Biden could proclaim he hates EVs. Won't stop companies from producing them.

Proclamations alone do nothing. Proclamations with the power of Congress behind you, or the ability to single-handedly change your profit margin, would,

Your argument is nonsensical. If oil companies are leaving their wells capped, it's for reasons other than Biden.

They leave them capped, don't explore more, don't drill new wells, don't upgrade or build new refineries, because the confidence they have to ensure they make that money back has eroded due to this administration and President Biden's words and campaign speeches.
They are being as cautious as they can and still make money.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Brexit is a disaster and was sold to the gullible based on lies, deception and half-truths.

One year on, it’s clear that Brexit has failed on its advocates’ own terms

Now that the Brexit deal has been in force for a year, it’s worth looking at initial claims from the politicians who forced through an exit from the EU’s single market.

www.cer.eu

Brexit is a failure: but, to remainers’ frustration, it’s not a spectacular one | Rafael Behr

The shelves are empty. Yet leavers, though no longer triumphant, can usually blame the problems on the EU, says Guardian columnist Rafael Behr

www.theguardian.com

Why even the Brexiteers are in despair over Brexit

Leavers have collided with the reality that the potential benefits of Brexit are far outweighed by the costs.

www.newstatesman.com

One year on, huh? how about some objectivity?

 

[Michael Cole]

Proclamations alone do nothing. Proclamations with the power of Congress behind you, or the ability to single-handedly change your profit margin, would,

They leave them capped, don't explore more, don't drill new wells, don't upgrade or build new refineries, because the confidence they have to ensure they make that money back has eroded due to this administration and President Biden's words and campaign speeches.
They are being as cautious as they can and still make money.

You're flailing horribly.

 

[sanman]

Liz Cheney still around anymore? Looks like she's gone.