Liz Cheney hints Jan 6 committee may hold more public hearings

[justoneman]

Under Biden oil production is way down.

That's what you said. It's a lie.

It also bolsters my argument. Those wells can be reopened, and production can be ramped back up any time the oil companies want.

Yes under Biden it is way down. Exactly. it is.

 

[Michael Cole]

No exploration was stunted by Biden's policies. It's not a faucet you just open and close. Wells have to be explored and drilled. If exploration is limited actual production is limited.

Exploration isn't limited, and it's irrelevant.

What do you think happened in 2020? Did covid eat the oil? Most of it is still in the ground.

Yes, reopening wells is not like a switch. It takes capital. Lenders were spooked by covid and the oil companies decided to take profits rather than invest in production. That's their right but the federal government has no power over private business decisions.

 

[Michael Cole]

Yes under Biden it is way down. Exactly. it is.

I just showed that to be a lie.

That's your story and your sticking to it? What? Strange surrendering habits ya got there, bruh.

 

[justoneman]

Exploration isn't limited, and it's irrelevant.

What do you think happened in 2020? Did covid eat the oil? Most of it is still in the ground.

Yes, reopening wells is not like a switch. It takes capital. Lenders were spooked by covid and the oil companies decided to take profits rather than invest in production. That's their right but the federal government has no power over private business decisions.

You keep saying open up the wells. Wells have life spans. It was never about closing and opening wells as you think. It is about drilling many wells to replace the ones that have ended production. most locations will not produce oil or gas properly. Limiting permits and land for exploration limits production.

 

[justoneman]

I just showed that to be a lie.

No you did not. What I said was true. Biden limited permits and land for exploration. It was his stated goal to shut down fossil fuel production. He achieved his goal. It was a stupid goal and we are now paying the price for it.

 

[Hypothetical]

Well, I suppose hearings could still take place into Nov.

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“It’s not necessarily the last day of the hearings,” she told the audience.

“I think we have felt it is very important that the investigation be conducted in a way that is rigorous and disciplined and responsible,” she added.

“That has meant collecting evidence from many, if not all, because of course some people took the Fifth (Amendment) or some people refused to appear, but collecting evidence from all those around the central figure on January 6 before we issued a subpoena for him.”

oh I think they will hold more, right up to Nov 8th.

 

[Patriotguy]

No, you are confused. You are having the hissy fit, not me.

So you are only interested in these public manner hearings when it comes to conservatives, got it, strictly partisan hypocrisy.

 

[Patriotguy]

Well, they're helping normal, decent patriotic Americans learn the depth of criminality underlying the last administration.

So that's a thing.

So then I am sure you were gasping for air when it came to Benghazi, Hillary's email fiasco, her smashing Blackberries that had been subpoenad, and the Big guy receiving money from influence peddling on behalf of his son.

 

[Patriotguy]

The current American economy is in great shape. Joe Biden has been masterful in his management.

 

[Cope]

No, you are confused. You are having the hissy fit, not me.

I believe he was simply pointing out the glaring hypocrisy.

 

[Cope]

Well, they're helping normal, decent patriotic Americans learn the depth of criminality underlying the last administration.

So that's a thing.

I disagree that those are the people this is 'helping'. It certainly is food for the base though.

If it is swaying Independents and Centrists to your side, then it is working. If not, then it isn't, no matter how popular it is with the base. I guess we will find out soon enough.

 

[Cope]

Under Biden oil production is way down.

That's what you said. It's a lie.

It also bolsters my argument. Those wells can be reopened, and production can be ramped back up any time the oil companies want.

They could re-open them if there was any confidence in the administration.
I think that is the entirety of the point. This administration is not friendly to the oil market. They know it, he knows it, we know it, why don't you and those defending these inane points?

 

[Galactic Spin]

There has been a whole lot Biden and the Democrats in Congress could have one in the past two years, to have kept this inflation from happening

Oh please, enlighten us.

And, go

 

[Galactic Spin]

Biden limited permits and land for exploration.

When? Where? You don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Ambig]

The current American economy is terrible.

I understand that you crave for that to be true, but no. Nowhere close.

I'm afraid everyone has a job, and you can't really have a recession when that's the case.

Maybe you'll get lucky and we'll go into recession, but not before the election.

 

[Ambig]

On day one Biden hindered the production of oil and gas in the US.

Nah. A lie told to you by your rightwing sources.

 

[Ambig]

No you did not. What I said was true. Biden limited permits and land for exploration. It was his stated goal to shut down fossil fuel production. He achieved his goal. It was a stupid goal and we are now paying the price for it.

You'll say anything, won't you.

 

[Ambig]

So then I am sure you were gasping for air when it came to Benghazi, Hillary's email fiasco, her smashing Blackberries that had been subpoenad, and the Big guy receiving money from influence peddling on behalf of his son.

I don't follow rightwing lies. Sorry.

 

[Ambig]

I disagree that those are the people this is 'helping'. It certainly is food for the base though.

If it is swaying Independents and Centrists to your side, then it is working. If not, then it isn't, no matter how popular it is with the base. I guess we will find out soon enough.

You can't imagine a world without tribes, can you.

So what is my 'side', exactly?

 

[Michael Cole]

You keep saying open up the wells. Wells have life spans. It was never about closing and opening wells as you think. It is about drilling many wells to replace the ones that have ended production. most locations will not produce oil or gas properly. Limiting permits and land for exploration limits production.

Are you claiming the drop in oil production during covid was caused by wells going dry? Seriously?

 

[Michael Cole]

They could re-open them if there was any confidence in the administration.
I think that is the entirety of the point. This administration is not friendly to the oil market. They know it, he knows it, we know it, why don't you and those defending these inane points?

Nonsense. Biden has no control over privately owned oil wells.

You're buying the propaganda. Sad.

"Biden said bad things about me, so I refuse to pump oil!!!"

That's your argument, and a child wouldn't fall for it.

 

[Michael Cole]

No you did not. What I said was true. Biden limited permits and land for exploration. It was his stated goal to shut down fossil fuel production. He achieved his goal. It was a stupid goal and we are now paying the price for it.

Repeating lies I already proved to be lies is pretty childish. Can you not admit when you're wrong?

 

[ouch]

oh I think they will hold more, right up to Nov 8th.

My guess would be possibly one more no closer to the midterm than one week away but more than likely after the midterm but finished up before Thanksgiving Day. Again, if there is another one.

 

[Cope]

You can't imagine a world without tribes, can you.

So what is my 'side', exactly?

It was pretty self explanatory in the post. My tribe is in the middle.

What can I help you understand? I never said YOU were on a side, merely stating that there ARE sides. Whether you think you are on one side or the other is irrelevant.

 

[Cope]

Nonsense. Biden has no control over privately owned oil wells.

Good thing I didn't say that. What on earth COULD he have said during the campaign, or after that resulted in a lack of confidence towards oil?
Are all these people wrong for thinking this administration is not keen on the oil and gas industry?

Honestly it baffles me to have to explain any of this because you and a bunch of others here are not dumb people, but anything to get out of accepting this administration's has any fault, gets tiring.

You're buying the propaganda. Sad.

"Biden said bad things about me, so I refuse to pump oil!!!"

That's your argument, and a child wouldn't fall for it.

A child can hear/read/understand this administrations stance on oil and gas. As can you, but it's the willful ignorance on display instead.